What will your reaction be when their economy collapses?

What’s the social credit system? What sorts of things do they get rewarded/punished for?

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China collapsing just means more and more Chinatowns everywhere, it'd be especially bad for Korea and Japan

>What’s the social credit system
its an overblown myth

Xi's People's Republic of China (Formerly Mao's)

China's GDP doubled between 2010 and 2017 and they have 45 times less debt per capita than the US, why would their economy suddenly collapse?

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It was a construction and urbanization boom that won't happen again. And their demographics are a disaster.

american demographics is even worse

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They are mad and their "response" to it is by chimping out and smashing up KFCs and showing ancient anti-US propaganda movies from the 60s on TV.

Are these the new episodes? Pretty cringe.

mutt education or school shooting education.

What do you mean it won't ever happen again when china shows no sign of stopping, their economy grew by 6.6% last year. Also Americas demographics are much worse, I'd rather live in a homogeneous society rather than some melting pot of degeneracy and race mixing like the US where 15% (32 million) of the adult population are illiterate.

>What do you mean it won't ever happen again when china shows no sign of stopping, their economy grew by 6.6% last year

"Man, this economy is going great gonza. These good times are gonna last the next 50 years."

-- Some random stockbroker, spring 1929

When will the social credit meme die, it was only ever a trial run in 3 cities.

When the dog eating meme thing dies (protip: it's only really a thing in Guangdong)

>China
>Collapsing within your lifetime
Not a chance in hell

"Nobody should be fooled into thinking Gorbachev is fundamentally different from his predecessors or that any serious disruption to Soviet power is likely to happen in the near future."

-- Some random talking head on the evening news, 1985

Hey that's where the skinny guy who makes videos about China lives!
The thing is there were key indicators before all of those events which showed things were not really going all that well. By all metrics China is stable.

>The thing is there were key indicators before all of those events which showed things were not really going all that well
That including the huge GDP drop now happening in China and Xi's colossal retardation ruining relations with all of their neighbors?

Actually since you mention that, the USSR in 85 looked solid and stable as fuck. I'm not kidding when I said that literally nobody on the planet could have predicted it would all be over in six years.

>>That including the huge GDP drop now
hrm this is a interesting perspective, since relatively they just reclaimed the fastgest growing economy from india.

>>China and Xi's colossal retardation ruining relations with all of their neighbors?
they've always been bad with their neighbors, nothings changed.

>huge GDP drop now happening
a slowdown in growth isn't a GDP drop.
also much of the slowdown was down to Trump's trade war

Prior to Xi they didn't engage in this neo-imperialism autism with trying to steal islands and take over Africa. You didn't have Japan in the 90s-2000s considering restarting a real military instead of a self-defense force. You do since 2013.

The construction boom is a american lie.
Unlike the 29tards, China has no intentions in being enslaved by the market, they want to rule it

lel never. Too many english language sources ran with it and they can cite each forever, and they can all pretend like it's still real just by putting "it's not real... yet" all over their articles.

Note that of all the China Experts that make careers of informing Americans about China there was literally 1 guy knew what social credit was, he could actually read chinese (rare) and read chinese sources (ultra rare), and if it wasn't for him autistically replying to everyone on twitter nobody would know what it is.

Again, let me ask you what do you mean by "that won't happen again" when between 1999 and 2019 their GDP had increased by 14 times without any sign of slowing down? I mean obviously they won't keep up this growth forever but I do not get why you're making threads about the chinese economy collapsing when for the time being they show no sign of collapsing.

They literally sent armies to topple their neighbors governments.

Even planned commie economies aren't invulnerable to economic slowdown, cf. North Korea suffering near-total economic collapse in the 90s.

>That including the huge GDP drop now happening in China and Xi's colossal retardation ruining relations with all of their neighbors?

China has better relations with its neighbors than ever. You're being memed.

>That including the huge GDP drop now happening in China a
GDP is still growing, it just slowed down which as the leaf mentioned is mainly due to the trade war
>China and Xi's colossal retardation ruining relations with all of their neighbors?
Actually China is doing better with its neighbors than it has in decades, the B&R projects are giving them a good reputation.

And the real economic data (as opposed to the CCP's "official" data) is probably much worse than it looks.

China isn't dependent on soviet money

They sent most of their army to attack Vietnam in the 70s and 80s.

Can you post a credible source?

>Most
Literally a quick punitive expedition to show those Yankee killers who can really fuck them up.

the SCS claims have always existed. even taiwan claims the SCS as a legacy of the civil war. actual military clashes have happened there before Xi. also, i actually think China's expansion into Africa has increased their favourability there, as indicated by opinion polling.

China's economy is following the development path of all their neighbors. You can cling to demo-graphic arguments (which are zerohedge tier and have literally never predictive of anything) all you want but they are already a service economy (60+ economic activity) and high-end manufacturer. US has a permanently distorted view and only ever sees a China that exists 10-15 years in the past. You need to come to term with the fact that they are not going to collapse.

>Prior to Xi they
Dude is also an idealist would-be communist "reformer" like Gorbachev was (but in reverse because he has a fetish for oldskool Maoism). So there's that curious parallel.

Also... everyone has islands in the SCS. For some reason only Chinese ones get reported on so people think only they did it but everyone has been building them lel

>He says after China gets bogged down for nearly a decade and retreats with no territorial changes

foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2019-03-11/whats-causing-chinas-economic-slowdown
bbc.com/news/av/world-46977541/china-s-economic-slowdown-explained
nytimes.com/2019/01/20/business/china-economy-gdp-fourth-quarter.html
forbes.com/sites/yuwahedrickwong/2018/08/23/the-reality-of-chinas-economic-slowdown/
scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/2179652/chinas-industrial-profits-drop-first-time-three-years-due
asia.nikkei.com/Economy/China-s-GDP-growth-slows-to-28-year-low-in-2018

Why do you say that?

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Westerners hate Xi because he made real effective moves to remove corruption, made the party really popular with poverty alleviation campaigns and broke up the oligarchy that was forming and strengthen the central government. SYKE BITCH!!! what they REALLY hate is that Chinese girls don't beg to suck their dicks anymore, they can't work on fake visas and Chinese people don't think they walk on water for being white so they're suuupper pissed.

>Westerners hate Xi because he made real effective moves to remove corruption
Note that this conveniently only applies to corruption committed by his political rivals.

Yeah there was a flurry of "slowdown" articles framed in the language of "recession" when the trade war started to boost confidence of people like you, but then the economy was too obviously strengthening and the talks shit the bed so there is not point to try to use this kind of thing for leverage.

Proved to be false. People just asserted this without evidence. After it had been going on for a few years it turned out it was really widespread anti-corruption campaign that caught up 50,000+ officials.

Jiang and Hu were kind of like China's Brezhnev. Sit back, do nothing, and let's all of us party brass get rich and eat caviar.

typical boomer mentality
Do you have any proofs to support your claim?

The mass boomer die off can't come soon enough.

Okay, but comparing China to the USSR is like comparing Fascist Italy to Imperial Japan or Nazi Germany.

In one case one over most of mainland Europe and a lot of East and SE Asia, meanwhile Italy couldn't take down Greece.

It's more accurate to call China a mercantilist ethno-state. Ironically the Commies ended up being better at being nationalism then the ROC ever could be. If you're a white supremacist larper you should be taking notes and consider getting deng-pilled, the truest of red pills.

see There's no such thing as a nation-wide social credit system. Some towns and local communities tried to experiment with social credit scores to encourage people to take part in positive social activities and that was the end of it.
But some western outlets took the story and ran with it.

Since you mention that, the other interesting thing that happened was Xi declaring himself emperor for life and appointing as many of his peers to high position as he can, because he hopes to stifle the generation that came up in the 80s, because they were the generation associated with the democracy movement and they're considered suspect.

I will be speaking speaking Chinese because they will certainly have taken over the world by then.

>It's more accurate to call China a mercantilist ethno-state.
duuuuuuuuuuude

Lmao no they are not.

Wow that's exactly what Steve Bannon calls them lel must be a coincidence.

dude ?

Kind of... there is something called a social credit system, but it's not high-tech and there is no score. Rather, it's an initiative to unite various different law-enforcement mechanisms and make them more efficiently and transparently enforced. Most enforcement reforms are undertaken under the banner of "social credit" because that's how things are done. There are dozens of pilot programs across the country trying out different reforms and some will be adopted nationally.

So there is such a thing as "Social Credit" in China, they're just laws. The "Black Mirror" stuff was a fabrication of China Watchers who created this idea out of their own heads due to the linguistic associate with Credit and Score in the west. They don't actually read laws when they are promulgated and just assume they know what is in the contents based on their prejudices about the country.

It will be run nationwide in 2020 retard

The Islands were being built in the early 2000s, some even before.

get ur shit 2gether, nigga

Too big to fall.

There is no score double-retard.

Do you want the secret to make their fall quicker? But it's gonna need USa coorperation.

Happy to see that.
Finally real change that lead us away from dystopia

so uhhh what happens when the worlds supply of coal, oil, and natural gas runs out in the nest 50-60 years? Got any plans anons?

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Invest in green technology retard

No one will save them when they fail. India will take their spot quickly as the rising superpower.

if the american economy collapses do does everybody else's.

everybody switches to nuclear and public transit becomes a huge thing. So basically we're fucked

>this site
>people with IQ
It wasn't about the phones spying but them dominating the infrastructure.
euronews.com/2019/06/03/chinas-huawei-to-sell-undersea-cable-business-buyers-exchange-filing-shows

Well I mean for a economy to collapse people have to live life in poverty. China doesn't care about their own people living in poverty. They have a unending supply of cannon fodder both militarily and economically. Nobody cares if a few million chinks die because the economy is being weak. So a "collapse" probably won't happen.

One of the most significant ongoing political campaigns is the poverty reduction campaign which aims to bring the number of Chinese living in poverty down to 0 by 2020.

>The worlds supply of coal, oil and natural gas
Oil and natural gas would be the middle east. Coal you can easily get from russia.

So propaganda with infinitely expanding goalposts considering "poverty" in china. Since a bowl of rice a day could be seen as not being poor.

No there are real metrics, but it's not about metrics it's about really doing something. It's been successful and it's the thing people attribute to the apparent confidence in the government right now.

>It's been successful and it's the thing people attribute to the apparent confidence in the government right now.
t. chinese government

Australia is pretty fucked if China's economy goes in the shitter. The tl;dr is that they're number one in terms of the value of the bilateral trade relationship, and the economic relationship is worth three times more than the second one which is Australian/American trade.

We export everything from education to Wine to them

Hello aussiechink.

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I'm not him retard, look at our economy yourself.
Dumb fucking Hans
dfat.gov.au/about-us/publications/trade-investment/australias-trade-in-goods-and-services/Pages/australias-trade-in-goods-and-services-2016.aspx#partners

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He's not wrong.
You don't need to be a chink to see that.

yay

More chinks.

Only a turk could be this dumb.

150 social points added to your account

>150 social points added to your account

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>China's economy is going to collapse
>why do you think so it's doing really well right now?
>reeee 120 social points added fuck you America #1 our economy is so much better and never crashes fuck chinks
ok buddy

Are all Germans this fucking retarded? I've clearly stated that our economy relies upon China and its our largest trading relationship - that doesn't make me Chinese dumb fuck, its basic fact

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this static feeling is based on propaganda directed to the population to break their will

I'll shrug and say "OK".

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