Daily remainder: Life on Ukraine is very-easy mode
All ukrainians are programmers (or sailors), so they have at least 3k USD per month. They pay no taxes, or pay 3-4% as "individual businessmen". They have very good clay so they can grow 100% eco friendly food on their Dacha. Or at least buy fresh vegetables from Babushka on street for 5 UAH (20 cents). All hohol girls are super easy and absolutely top tier. On the weekend they take their visafree passport and fly to Europe for only $10 on lowcoster. Drink morning coffee and fly back, they even don't need to pay for a hostel! After a not-very-hard working they are going to Puzata-Hata and eat here borshch z pampushkami, salo z projilkami, hreb z luchkom ii gorilochka. For only 2 USD (no joke). After a day of easy life they come to the Jow Forums to get attention of you. That's how they statisfing even more. Ukraine is the paradise
mass graves in the ukraine with nazi bullets in them, including polish officers. leaves the official version of the polish katyn massacre into question as well, since the bodies of officers who supposedly died in katyn were discovered in these ukranian graves. the nazis didn't just massacre people, they tried to make it look like the soviets did it.
Liam Gonzalez
Ukraine is not a country
Christian Martin
i bet you fell for the "nazis did more crimes and killings than communists" meme
Luis Torres
how do i met cute ukrainian waifu
Bentley Butler
nazis did kill more than any communist regime, but their total bodycount is counted towards the billions capitalism has killed as well, since they were capitalists after all
Wyatt Foster
muh 6 gorillion
Luke Robinson
I dont think the commies like the jews either.
Luke Howard
>16 million civilians in russia alone
Luis Myers
If there was ever a true definition of historical karma then ukraine is a greatest example of it.
Poor and decaying shithole that deserved to be it.
Levi White
Lmao look at this commie nigger. >be my grandparents living in ukraine >commies take away the land yet force you to work on the land and give away most of the food that you have produced >Germans come and stark killing commies Oy vey the nazi atrocities
Justin Stewart
Their ideology was founded by a Jew, it was promoted by Jews everywhere, Jews were in charge of many of the movements, it is a Jew ideology at heart, and the way it treats every part of society should show this.
Easton Smith
“The commie cries out as he strikes you”
Henry Sullivan
>germans come, take your food, rape your wife and daughter and shoot you and take your land because hitler told them you were untermensch
Jeremiah Ortiz
ukraine had choice is the past today ukraine is a part of realm of chaos and decay lol
nazis killed 10x more civilians in 2 years than stalin during 20 years
Julian Hernandez
"Ukrainian" oligarchs are divided. Pro European Union oligarchs want to join the EU because they want to use the EU's financial system to clean their dirty money. Anti EU oligarchs tend to have businesses that depend on good relations with Russia.
1930s >Stalin starves millions of Ukrainians to death, blames nonexistent capitalists 1941 >Stalin starves millions of Ukrainians to death, blames Germans
you are wrong about financial system there is no pro-european anymore, it is just realm of chaos people prepare own assets for inevitable collapse of the state
Ukraine joining the EU would be a threat to Putin, because it would show the success without being in the grip of the Kremlin. Not saying Russia isn't doing good in other areas, but Russia can not allow Ukraine to be successful, thats a matter of survival for them.
>enemy invades an area >deliberately take every pound of food from it, all the livestock, wreck all machinery that can't be taken away, leaving the place about as capable of supporting the millions of people left behind as the surface of the Moon >those millions of people starve >it's the enemy's fault!
That's like burglars breaking into your house, and your response is to shoot your children
Gavin Sullivan
ussr have lost 17 million civilians 80% of them were killed (directly or indirectly) by nazis in occupied lands and from forced labor, only 20% died during sieges and other causes
Kevin Bennett
stop fucking yourself in the ass, faggot
Chase Brooks
Gotem
Matthew Thomas
nice troll we have many ukrainians in poland who escaped that hellhole to do simple and low paid jobs in poland
Juan Brown
this never happened in ukraine you retard. the only times the soviets adopted a scorched earth aproach was on oil fields like the ones at baku, which is the reason the nazis lost the war. once the nazis went trough ukraine there was no food to take anyway, they were like fucking locusts. all the people there were left to starve.
Tyler Lopez
How is life in Crimea, Ivan?
Nathan Williams
>ukraine is a paradise For sex tourists with money maybe. Though they could get killed and robbed in process, but that's part and parcel of adventure in wilderness.
Brody Parker
Actually it was widely reported that Soviets NKVD dressed up as German soldiers and burned villages to the ground
I believe it was something like Stalin Order 0428.
It's very common for Communists to project their madness onto other people.
Xavier Kelly
i dont know, faggot i live in kiev
Elijah Reed
Stop existing you filth Stop the lies end your life You serve no purpose Accept you are as worthless as your ideology No tears, only dreams
Brayden Ramirez
>widely reported
by who? Goebbels? fucking retard
Evan White
Communism failed No legitimate government uses it You suck dead Lenin's dick for scraps of your oligarchs richs
Connor Clark
>80% of them were killed (directly or indirectly) by nazis in occupied lands and from forced labor,
>enemy invades >you deliberately make occupied lands incapable of supporting human life as official polict >do not evacuate the people >deliberately leave all the people still there where there's now no food or ability to grow it >they starve by the millions
By what insane logic is that the Germans' fault? It's literally shooting your children to foil the burglar in your home
Hunter Long
shut up you dick sucking bitch, before I smack the shit out of your pig face again
>the only times the soviets adopted a scorched earth aproach was on oil fields like the ones at baku,
LMAO DAT DELUSION
>to the enemy must not be left a single engine, a single rail car, not a single pound of grain or a gallon of fuel.... In occupied regions conditions must be made unbearable for the enemy and all his accomplices
"Accomplices" meaning, in usual Stalinist fashion, "literally everybody in a given region"
Camden Nelson
It's also widely reported that Netherlands are drowning in cocaine and shit, and become the main European hub for CIA-owned drug cartels.
Zachary Campbell
this never happened you fucking mongoloid. you couldn't produce evidence of it even if you believed your nonsense. the germans went trough ukraine, took all the food and left the peasants there to starve. they raped, shot and murdered the ones they could for fun and moved on. they did this all over russia for 4 years.
Camden Gutierrez
>again bullshit >nazis simply had orders to exterminate civilian population and to ruin cities >also "scorched earth" was made by nazi, not by ussr.
Well you're Ukrainian so I understand your lack of intelligence. But how would an Invading army profit from scorching the earth?
In fact the Germans had a “Ostacker Programm” which was designed to restore the lands.
Grayson Morris
lmao imagine being this victimized by Soviet propaganda
> The Soviet scorched-earth strategy included the deportation of millions of men, women and children; the resettlement and reestablishment of thousands of factories; the withdrawal of almost the entire railway rolling stock; the-annihilation of raw material depots; the removal of most of the agricultural machinery, cattle and grain stocks; the systematic destruction, burning and blowing up of the immovable infrastructure, inventories of all kinds, factory buildings, mines, residential areas, public buildings, public records, and even cultural monuments; and the intentional starvation of the civilian population which remained behind to face German occupation. It was basically a policy which unscrupulously used the civilian population as a strategic pawn. The extent and timing of this policy action is confirmed by so many sources that no real difference of opinion exists in this regard.
Jack Carter
Get HIV.
Logan Bailey
how weird that stalin would write an official order in german
Noah Rodriguez
It's the Kiev-variant of the Stockholm Syndrome.
Aaron Anderson
Nothing east of the Kama is a country.
Liam Johnson
Nice quads
Bitch you'll never see the sweet sweet maple covered shores of my glorious leaf nation, pleb
>you couldn't produce evidence of it even if you believed your nonsense.
Lmao, well, except for every single history not written by Russians detailing it, and the human cost, and STALIN'S OWN SPEECH, broadcast on Soviet radio
>In case of a forced retreat of Red Army units, all rolling stock must be evacuated, the enemy must not be left a single engine, a single railway car, not a single pound of grain or gallon of fuel. The collective farmers must drive off all their cattle and turn over their grain to the safe keeping of the state authorities for transportation to the rear. All valuable property, including non-ferrous metals, grain and fuel that cannot be withdrawn must be destroyed without fail.
3 ussr did not destroy infrastucture because they planned to win faster
4 majority of casualties were not from starvation but from dirrect extermanition lol people produced food same as they did in the past. nothing changed
do you know how to read? casualties from starvation were small in comparison to other causes, the biggest casualties from starvaton were during siege of cities like St.petersburg
in villages people did not starve, nazis just exterminated them to free lebensraum for future colonists
William Allen
>do not evacuate the people Oh yeah, totally possible to evacuate 40-50 millions while enemy is rapidly advancing. Fucking leaf kill yourself.
Daniel Morris
nazis transplanted a rat penis onto my grandmother and proceeded to suck it and laugh about it. literal demons
Ethan Rodriguez
Look, Mahmood... both the Soviets and the Reich killed a lot of white Ukrainians.
Anthony Long
Eastern Ukrainians are not human
Jack Jenkins
Its like anotha shoah!
Jaxon Jackson
Explains why Russia is in Krasnoperekopsk after decades of telling Ukraine that land was theirs? You don't have to take anything socially you don't want.
Dominic Sanders
What's unreasonable about that order?
>if you can't evacuate something don't leave it to the enemy
That's warfare 101. That said this was never the case in Ukraine, like I already told you. The nazis simply moved through there and took all the food.
Luis Morgan
friendly reminder that the vast majority of Ukrainians welcomed the Germans as liberators in 1941, as well as most Russians, and that if Hitler wasn't a turbo spaz genocide autist, he would have easily won with massive russian partisan support. Instead they were forced to fight for the man who killed their whole family because the alternative was fight for the man who will kill your entire race.
D-do you, have pics of said event. Strictly for research, and archival purposes of course.
Jaxson Wright
Scorched earth started in 1943 when nazis started to lose very hard
in 1943 it was clear than nazis would lose so they went full butthurt mode and started to make as much harm as possible to everything - from people to animals and even stones
before 1943 both sides tried to preserve infrastructure
>every historian and also Stalin himself are just lying about this
lmao, I actually linked Stalin's actual speech, both transcript and actual live recording of his voice, announcing the policy, and even that's not enough for delusional Commies
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>that never happened >well it happened but it was just smart anyway
>The nazis simply moved through there and took all the food.
Let me again quote Stalin:
>In case of a forced retreat of Red Army units, all rolling stock must be evacuated, the enemy must not be left a single engine, a single railway car, not a single pound of grain or gallon of fuel. The collective farmers must drive off all their cattle and turn over their grain to the safe keeping of the state authorities for transportation to the rear. All valuable property, including non-ferrous metals, grain and fuel that cannot be withdrawn must be destroyed without fail.
What food?
Anthony Moore
The text reads in Ukrainian/Russian "Hitler, The Liberator."
>The retreating Soviet officials, for example, shipped 6 million cattle from Ukraine east to Russia, 550 large factories, thousands of small factories and 300,000 tractors. The USSR also evacuated 3.5 million skilled workers from Ukraine to the Russian Republic. In the Battle for Ukraine Soviet sources say the partisans blew up nearly 5,000 enemy trains, blasted 607 railway bridges, 915 warehouses, and damaged over 1,500 tanks and armoured carriers.
>As the Soviet authorities and army retreated from Ukraine in 1941, Stalin's scorched earth policy left a trail of destruction including the Dniprohes Dam on the Dnieper River, which was the largest hydro electric power dam in Europe, countless mines and major industrial factories, and Khreschchatik Street in the capital city of Kiev. On November 3, 1941 the famous architectural monument, the Dormition Cathedral in the Pecherska Lavra built 1073 in Kiev, was destroyed. Moscow tried to blame the Germans for destroying this superb example of medieval Ukrainian architecture but it was proven to be the work of a Soviet bomb squad which had mined it before their retreat and later set it off killing Germans.
Jace Brown
Hitler thought the war would be over within 3 months. He believed, or at the very least went on record to state that he felt, the slavic people who lived in Russia were subhuman and should be killed and enslaved and the lands repopulated with germans. Trying to change who Hitler was or rewrite history is nonsense, as is pretending Stalin was anywhere near as evil as him. Stalin never intentionally killed anyone's family unless in very extreme, personal circumstances. He cracked the whip and wanted rapid industrialization, that's it.
