Catholics of Jow Forums, is it possible to be both a Catholic and a nationalist? What varieties, if any, of nationalism does Catholicism allow for? Ethnic nationalism? Nationalism? What doctrinal support do you have for such a position.
Also, non-catholics please don't come. Go shit post on some pagan thread.
Catholics of Jow Forums, is it possible to be both a Catholic and a nationalist? What varieties, if any...
Xavier Nelson
Dylan Bailey
polish nationalism
Josiah Peterson
you can be any religion and have different political opinions ffs
Jack Fisher
>my fellow Catholics
>can I be a hardcore nationalist AND support kissing nigger feet?
>anime picture
You people are embarrassing
Lincoln Morales
Yes
Jace Myers
thank you for not being faggots unlike and
Isaiah Clark
Racial obsession is a form of materialism.
Nationalism as a general thing is arguably coincident with the base of Catholic social teasing. One of the core elements of CST is Subsidiarity, which is basically thev principle that matters should be handled by the smallest group/community that can really handle them. You can very much make an argument for nationalism from this.
Jackson Jackson
>56 After the unity of the human race was shattered by sin God at once sought to save humanity part by part. The covenant with Noah after the flood gives expression to the principle of the divine economy toward the "nations," in other words, towards men grouped "in their lands, each with (its) own language, by their families, in their nations."
>57 This state of division into many nations, each entrusted by divine providence to the guardianship of angels, is at once cosmic, social and religious. It is intended to limit the pride of fallen humanity united only in its perverse ambition to forge its own unity as at Babel. But, because of sin, both polytheism and the idolatry of the nation and of its rulers constantly threaten this provisional economy with the perversion of paganism.
t. Catechism
If you're not nationalist you're just slapping your nation's guardian angel in the face.
Also this is all made up.
Cooper Lee
No since catholics were programmed by Paul the false apostle and the christian killer to be slave of the state along side with the lattest written gospel.
So just keep sucking your jew overlord dicks and shut up
Noah Campbell
>b b b..but the pope represents everything in catholicism and every catholic gives many shits about what he has to say
just like the US president represents all american citizens correct ?
Isaiah Kelly
>Humility is bad
Joshua Brown
missed my point entirely
Landon Cooper
Look up National Radicalism
Bentley Howard
Catholics are nationalist.
Jose Walker
yes
this 100%
Catholicism IS their nationalism:
youtube.com
(jewtube just removed the likebar because reasons)
Joshua Myers
Benjamin Diaz
Acts 17:26
{14} And hath made of {o} one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
(14) God is wonderful in all his works, but especially in the work of man: not that we should stand amazed at his works, but that we should lift our eyes to the workman.
(o) Of one stock and one beginning.
Oliver Thompson
Look into history. National Socialism was hand in hand with the Vatican. I wished I had lived during those times to experience both. What a time historically!
Gabriel Powell
Render onto caeser what is caeser's.
Gavin Moore
Yes, read the fathers they talk a lot about this topic
Hudson Murphy
Patriotism/nationalism is a virtue, according to St. Thomas, under the species of piety. From ST II-II, Q101, A1:
>I answer that, Man becomes a debtor to other men in various ways, according to their various excellence and the various benefits received from them. on both counts God holds first place, for He is supremely excellent, and is for us the first principle of being and government. On the second place, the principles of our being and government are our parents and our country, that have given us birth and nourishment. Consequently man is debtor chiefly to his parents and his country, after God. Wherefore just as it belongs to religion to give worship to God, so does it belong to piety, in the second place, to give worship to one's parents and one's country.
>The worship due to our parents includes the worship given to all our kindred, since our kinsfolk are those who descend from the same parents, according to the Philosopher (Ethic. viii, 12). The worship given to our country includes homage to all our fellow-citizens and to all the friends of our country. Therefore piety extends chiefly to these.
Justin Smith
your church is compromised OP
Connor Johnson
No. It's agaisnt the bible.
REFUGEES WELCOME
Asher Ramirez
Sure. Lots of nationalist/fascist groups have been predominantly catholic. Franco for instance incorporated catholicism directly into Spanish government policy. Or Pinochet's Argentina, or Mussolini's Italy, two very heavily catholic societies. The idea that catholicism and far-right ideology are somehow mutually exclusive is a silly idea that holds no water.
Juan Hughes
does that mean we should infect the brown countries and breed them out?
Austin Hall
There are nationalist Catholics in the states. I think its call Church Militant.
Henry Gomez
>posts bullshit from the old testament.
Lucas Gonzalez
So now the bible is wrong? Old testament is original word of god, not some jewish liar.
Josiah Evans
Yes it does. Go forth and out breed them.
David Morales
Jaxson Carter
Jace Russell
Dominic Cooper
Jacob Adams
Hudson Powell
Bentley Thomas
Jackson Stewart
catholicism is for young people who have never been to church, or have rarely been, who want to be "trad" and "religious" and are only catholic because of paradox games and le crusades. They dont even believe in the religion or go to mass except once or twice. Also its a brown people religion. Convert or die pagans
Leo Collins
What does it say when forgeiners abuse your country, worship idols (Catholics aka spics) and commit sins constantly, adultery, murder, lie etc. The wages of sin is death. How many of them do you think lie about immigration status? Not good people.
Jacob Martinez
Uneducated swine! You really should not spread heretical falsities. Let me guess you are a protestant? Don't you know the Universal church has jurisdiction over you? Look into the council of churches and the ecumenical movement!
Hudson Flores
Fuck off, revisionist.
Franco nominated his own business, which he had no right to do. Mussolini explicitly wanted everything in society to be controlled by the state, which would include religion and the Church. Pinochet wasn't a fascist.
Jeremiah Clark
>business
*bishops
Cameron Bennett
So you do not agree that it was an interesting time during human history?
Aiden Morgan
Sorry i dont believe in ecumenicism, catholics are demonic and child predators. The catholic church is too busy ministering to fags and kissing nigger toes to do anything to me. Fuck your LARP
Also peter had a wife
Carter Hill
please don't post that witch
Josiah Jenkins
I respectfully disagree with you. Rome will once again gain power. Have a great day!
Isaiah Evans
Noah Torres
Rome is the whore of babylon. Catholics cant be redpilled
Aiden Long
Racial nationalism isn't necessarily racial obsession though, and It's disingenuous to claim that it is.
Connor Hernandez
Nicholas Morales
She already controls the US congress. Look at the buildings and Fasces in the house of reps.
Alexander Howard
>foreigner resides
>in your land
>FOREIGNER
>RESIDES
>YOUR
>LAND
Colton Hughes
and RC majority in the the US supreme court. Those justices owe their allegiance to the Vicar of christ.
Isaiah Stewart
why do they have no counter arguments for this and they can only post images?
this makes catholics look bad
Parker Jackson
National Socialists as a party were not hand in hand with the church beyond superficial gestures by the leadership and a treaty that they violated.
Matthew Rodriguez
Why is catholicism/christianity a thing? It's not anime related, who cares?
Ayden Perez
Post more christchan!
Joseph Cox
Catholics and their secret cults are demonic NWO
Camden Brown
Have you tried actually reading the Bible?
Nicholas Wright
Samuel Sanchez
Vatican II maybe.
The old Church made saints out of men.
Joshua Rodriguez
ITT: Idolatry
Burn in hell you filthy sinners!
James Ward
NWO is OWO brought back. Remember the Vatican had control for 12 CENTURIES. NWO is OWO.
Isaiah Jenkins
>aussie makes no sense
typical
Julian Barnes
>the OWO
Easton Smith
That's honestly beside the point. Race is a material category. To claim that races are incapable of confirming to other cultures is to promote a deterministic materialism.
Kayden King
The old church had indulgences and getting their ass whipped by muslims in the desert.
Ian Ortiz
Didn't Noah repopulate the earth with incest babies?
Jace Bell
The vatican held control by manipulating the peasants, if you dont know this you need to read a book
Asher Hall
If the Vatican controlled the world, it would be fine with trumpets, banners, and fanfare.
Christian Gray
Once again not what racial nationalism is about.
Joseph Young
Worship your statues, you filthy catholic.
Zachary Lewis
you are right.... it never left :)
John White
owo what's this?
Brody Lee
nationalism is post revolutionary republicanism
so imo no you cant be, but what most people consider nationalism, is really rule by estates so 6 in one hand
Parker Jones
Not just peasants, but kings. If you don't know this then I would suggest reading "Romanism and the Reformation" by H. GRATTAN GUINNESS .
Parker Reyes
If vatican controlled the world it would be degenerate faggot clownworld where the ruling elite is a deathcult... o wait
Isaac Howard
Old world order. The NWO on the bottom of the US dollar is the Vatican re-branding themselves when they "lost" power.
Owen Bell
t retard
Connor Murphy
I would suggest reading any sort of history book. Maybe if you werent a mexican with a low iq, you would be able to see that the nobles and kings hated the vatican and their power, but you dont understand that.
Blake Price
>notices power
owo?!?
Christian Cooper
fpbp
Alexander Watson
With the Bible as the foundation, any Christian denomination can be ethnat.
Isaac Gray
I liked how you critiqued my book that I suggested :)
Colton Parker
You can believe in God and be gay
Carson Allen
Only because the Vatican had a monopoly on the kid fucking and got all the best youngins, only to leave the lower quality for the nobles and kings.
Lincoln Cox
Selling of indulgences happened due to corruption as it was utterly opposed to the Catholic Church’s teaching on indulgences, and it cannot be regarded as a teaching or practice of the Church at any point in history.
The Council of Trent put a stop to it regardless.
Do you have any real critiques?
Dominic Stewart
We are supposed to be loyal to the Roman Empire, but that got dissolved by Napoleon. So I guess its okay now?
Chase Anderson
Well yes man is gay. Eve was made from him, so man is fucking himself in effect.
Jonathan Mitchell
Excuse me? I tread lightly if i were youz
Benjamin Phillips
a holy roman empire
Carson Ross
fpbp
Justin Harris
this
Kevin Brooks
charlemagne the 2nd
Zachary Price
Yes you can, but you aren't getting Gods favour without repenting and desisting.
Kevin Robinson
I dont care about catholic books. Every catholic that speaks about history is the biggest shill revisionist retard who claims there was no spanish inquisition, and just spouts garbage propoganda so they can kiss idols in peace
Yeah your church blows dick and is full of demon pedophiles who love lgbtp shit. Kill yourself revisionist
Jack Nguyen
But the Papacy regained power from Musollini. Musollini paid something like 720,000,000 and gave the papal power back per the Lateran Treaty.
Carter Bell
pope francis has to bukake you before you become caesar
Landon Perry
I know right? Embrace our love and acceptance goym! Be sure to engange into non-stop hookups like unhinged hogs goym!
James Davis
Why do you have to fit in categories? Pretty retarded of you to ask if you can be a catholic and nationalist at the same time.
Michael Wood