Let's talk paganism, what do you guys think of it? Are you pagan? How much of the old knowledge can we regain?
Let's talk paganism, what do you guys think of it? Are you pagan? How much of the old knowledge can we regain?
Owen Sanchez
Kayden Jones
Paganism need faith to work, gnosticism, christianism, etc works because their followers have faith in their religions
Ayden Jenkins
>how much of the old knowledge can we regain
Depends on the tradition, Roman and Greek have the best records. Germanic less so, Celtic least of all.
Angel Baker
So you can't imagine someone having faith in the old gods? Wow.
Noah Barnes
True, I am actually pretty surprised on how much we know from the oral cultures.
Noah Mitchell
>How much of the old knowledge can we regain?
100% of it is available to anyone who goes looking for it. The spiritual teachers our ancestors obtained that knowledge from in the first place are still around and accessible in the same ways our ancestors contacted them. Unlike cults such as Christianity which were invented by mortals, the true path can be pursued without any need for rituals proscribed by a source other than direct contact with the supernormal. At some point, the first shaman had to figure out how to contact the other side without any guidance from tradition. This is a bit of an oversimplification because all shamanic traditions cast this process as something closer to trial and error combined with the initiation of contact by the other side, but you get the point. Anyone who says that the native religions of Europe are dead and cannot be followed is an idiot of the worst sort. You can't kill a real religion because the divine reality upon which it is based never goes away. Contrast against Christianity, which will be completely lost after the last Bible has turned to dust and the last retelling of its story is forgotten.
Of course, then you get into the topics of communion with the ancestors as a method for directly learning of the past or of abilities such as remote viewing which can be used to retrieve information as well. The knowledge of the past cannot be erased.
Jonathan Flores
search your ancestral memory, it's within all of us
James Garcia
Tell me more
Matthew Flores
It's inscribed into our very blood. The archetypes and spiritual sense. Even if the traditions are lost, the gods remain, we can always create new traditions. It's within us always, it will never disappear as long as we remain. We can regain contact with that spirit if we search our ancestral memory. It's in there, we can all feel it to a certain extent
Brandon Morris
have sex incel losers.
Nicholas Bennett
All of it.
Simple structure works best. Arch-Wizard takes highest point. Acolyte, mage, wizard. etc.
Coven has no hierarchy, it is based around a circle with a single head matron somewhere in the middle.
Then we have Roman, Odin and other pagans, somewhere in between the folds, with shaman and druids and runekeepers etc etc.
Noah Nguyen
How much can really be involved in dancing naked around a fire, shaking some animal bones, and getting high on 'shrooms? Paganism is nigger tier. At best, it's feather nigger tier.
David King
Look into the work of Ian Stevenson on reincarnation research, Dean Radin on psychic phenomena, Rupert Sheldrake on morphic fields, Michael Harner on shamanism, and then just start picking away at every trace of ancient culture ranging from primary sources like the Vedas to modern analyses such as Graham Hancock gives of the Egyptian mystery religion in Message of the Sphinx or John Michell's overview of megalithic sites in Britain and their connection to geomancy in The View over Atlantis. There are also academic reviews of shamanic traditions in Europe based on studies of surviving groups such as in Siberia as well as studies of archaeological evidence. You might even dip your toes into the world of paranormal research such as D. Scott Rogo's An Experience of Phantoms or Jacques Vallee's Passport to Magonia which draws parallels between modern UFO/contact reports and older folklore which described things in terms of demons and fairies.
Leo Bennett
I don't want to worship our ancestors. I want to celebrate them.
Hudson Morris
He's not wrong, the ways need the people to work. They need to be witnessed and believed in.
Luis Johnson
This makes sense thank you
Oliver Ramirez
Sure thing bud
Elijah Kelly
>Rome was nigger-tier
You're a fucking genius, man.
Ian Morris
Looks like a lot of material, thanks user
Evan Martin
I believe in the old gods user and many more are coming to them. He is wrong because he assumes that pagans do not have faith.
Jayden Moore
Which old gods dumbass? The slavic ones? Baltic ones? Nordic ones? Greek ones? Celtic ones? The ones before any of those? How about the Indo-European ones? Proto-Indo-European ones?
Or are you merely another atheist who's finally come to the realization that religion is necessary and think that LARPing about the "old gods" will provide people with the benefits of religion, despite yourself not actually believing?
Ryder Carter
they're pretty much the same
Zeus = Odin = Wodan = Jupiter....etc
the same archetype repeated
Aiden Williams
Yeah those are all the same gods
Nathaniel Thompson
Those are Indo-European gods, man. Stop larping as a psychic and read a book.
Colton Gonzalez
>let's all worship made up fairy stories
If we're going to worship something made up, why not worship the God Emperor of Mankind?
>purity for humanity
>galactic lebensraum
>galaxy's full fuck off
>dat admech work ethic
>dat astra militarum bravery
Dominic Nelson
Very, very, very loosely. They all have a central patriarchal figure, like almost all religions, but Lugh =/= Wodan, nor does Brighid = Hera. And comparing these gods to those of another faith would be pretty heretical for many of these.
Justin Bailey
This. If you're going to LARP, take it all the way. Hell, you'd probably have more converts this way.
Jason Cruz
can somebody please explain to me what the purpose of adopting beliefs like this is? I'm not even memeing. I'm genuinely confused as to what there is to gain.
I'm 100% serious how is this not by definition a larp
Mason Young
Fuck it. I'm doing it. Who's with me? Praise the Emperor or GTFO, Jow Forums is an /i m p e r i a l/ board
Joshua Gray
no i only honor the one true transcendent creator not nature, a product of his mind
Gavin King
>his god hung on a stick for a day
>my god has sat vigilant on the golden throne for millenia
Brayden Cook
We've been subverted by the semitic faiths, they need to be purged from our peoples to make them strong again.
Ian Wilson
Clinging to the shattered idols of the past won't help you weather the storm, user. You need to follow the Emperor's Light.
Robert Cooper
what he's saying is true but the norse gods were mere hybrids from the fallen angels(humanity archetypes/edler gods) as their narratives are much newer
Jackson Mitchell
you're a dumb faggot my lord has ruled for eternity enjoy being overcome by humanity and ancestor spirits you pagan nigger
Christian Fisher
Yikes nah
You have to stick to one interpretation. If we're going with the Roman pantheon (I always use this as a ruler) then Jupiter=Zeus, but Odin=Mercury, no? Many older sources identify him as such (Romans in Germania), Wednesday=Woden's Day (French is Mercredi, day of Mercury), etc.
Carter Cook
The Emperor was a traitor to his people, he preached the light of scientific truth and knowledge while simultaneously using Rogue Traders to proselytize himself a personality cult.
Daniel Young
You don't fix a rat problem by installing a fish tank in your house. Religion is subversion by nature I don't understand how you think an undefined stone age occult is going to fix anything, or why anybody would convert.
Michael Jones
oh, so it's 100% a larp, thanks.
Lucas Cruz
>You have to stick to one interpretation.
yikes
Aaron Cooper
And I suppose you think Magnus did nothing wrong too, you blithering retard.
Nolan Williams
No, I just have a chaos black library collection of books too
Thomas Johnson
>it's not a larp, I just rationalize by belief system based on the lore of role playing games
Cooper Sanders
REMINDER THAT THE PAGAN RESTORATION IS THE NEXT PHASE OF THE LUCIFERIAN GAMEPLAN
THEY PLAN ON IMPLODING SOME OF THEIR OLD FRONTS AND MOVING TOWARDS OPEN PAGAN POLYTHEISM
THIS PERIOD IS WHAT HELENA BLAVATSKY CALLED THE THE EXTERNALIZATION OF THE HIERARCHY (WHERE THE MASSES WOULD BE INITIATED INTO THE LUCIFERIAN MYSTERIES THROUGH VARIOUS INTERMEDIARY FRONTS)
ELITE WORSHIP A CASTE OF DEMIGODS/FALLEN WATCHERS
REMINDER THAT ALL PAGANISM IS THE ONE RELIGION AT ITS CORE (WHAT LOOKS LIKE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS ARE MERE REGIONAL VARIATIONS)
THE CONFEDERATION OF ROYAL BLOODLINES KNOWN COLLOQUIALLY AS THE ILLUMINATI (OF WHOM THE JEWS HAVE ALSO SERVED AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE/ACCOUNTING CASTE) PRACTICE THIS RELIGION
NOTE THAT PAGAN POLYTHEISM IS ACTUALLY THE ONE RELIGION - WITH REGIONAL VARIATIONS. IT APPEARS LIKE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS BUT THE INNER SYSTEM IS THE SAME. THE ROYAL BLOODLINE CONFEDERATION HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED GLOBALLY SINCE BEFORE RECORDED HISTORY
THIS IS WHY DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF PAGANISM ALL ENTAIL THE SAME CORE ASPECTS (HUMAN SACRIFICE BEING AT THE CENTER). YOU SEE THIS IN MEZOAMERICAN PAGANISM AND ANCIENT CHINESE RELIGION ALIKE, ALONG WITH THE SAME ARCHITECTURE ECT
THESE BLOODLINES CONTROL ALL RELIGIONS, INCLUDING ALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES - HOWEVER THE SAME BRAND OF LUCIFERIANISM IS AT THE CORE OF ALL
THIS THREAD AND OTHERS LIKE IT ARE MADE BY PRACTICING LUCIFERIANIS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF VARIOUS SECRET SOCIETIES. THE PAGAN RESTORATION IS ONE OF THEIR SOCIAL ENGINEERING PROGRAMS (LIKE GLOBAL WARMING ECT)
THESE VERMIN ARE GLOBALIST KEKS. MANY OF THEM ARE UNDER MONARCH MIND CONTROL. OTHERS ARE SATANISTS BY INCLINATION (AND GENETICS). A LARGE % OF THEM ARE PRACTICING PEDOPHILES. THE CASTE OF PEOPLE WHO RUN SUCH OPERATIONS ARE NOT NORMAL HUMANS
MOST OFTEN THEY ARE GENERATIONAL CULT MEMBERS ECT. SOME ARE JUST USEFUL IDIOTS. DONT BE A USEFUL IDIOT
Adrian Anderson
>how to make sure nobody reads your post
why do schizos do this
David Foster
Only a true God would try to uplift his people into a new golden age while simultaneously preparing for their free will to fail them. Only a weak autist would screech about how their Creator who created them as weapons was using them as weapons.
>worshiping the Emperor of Mankind, the Creator of the universe and Protector of Humanity
>ancestor spirits and paganism hurr
Enjoy your heresy. Do you know what happens to heretics when they die?
Brayden Long
>I'm a leaf
Nolan Lee
i'm not saying anything heretical cuckbrain this is
all part of the bible. you pagan faggots worship what is created and not the transcendent creator.
David Adams
What Clint Eastwood movie is this from?
Xavier Collins
>tHiS iS pArT oF tHe BiBlE
>wOrShIp ThIs JeWiSh CaRpEnTeR wHo CoUlDn'T eVeN gEt HiMsElF oUt Of A tReE
Nah I'll worship the God Emperor, Light of the Astronomican, Bane of Xenos, Omnissiah
Chase Lopez
It's the same thing as Democracy, the majority vs minority thing. In the case of religion, there's a minority that can live/work/think etc without needing a sky fairy or stuff like that to tell them what do to or what to think, and the vast majority of people in general do need one to be motivated to wake up another day instead of killing themselves to end the suffering that is living by itself, since they are weak and couldn't overcome this fact like the minority did. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that spirits or supernatural things/beings don't exist, but they certainly are not, by any means, connected to abrahamic trash. Imo ancestral european religions come closer to anything else regarding the truth of the spiritual question
Grayson Lee
Daemons of the warp. All of them. Do not consort with daemons.
Aiden Bell
>Paganism is nigger tier.
no u
Owen Walker
>I'm an American
Lucas Baker
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD FAGGOT
Daniel Carter
>heresy coming from nonhumans
I guess it's to be expected.