Why cant christcucks prove the existence of Jesus?

Got any arguments that don't start on a false premise?

26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Show true flag, kike.

As I said, no hard proof. I'm not going to argue with non-historians in this thread. Do you at least know the difference between a first-hand account and tertiary account? By your definition of "proof" Hercules is more real then rabbi yeshua.

You didn’t even read a single word, dumb nazitard

ITT: retards with absolutely zero proof trying to convince others that their god exists.
If you say something exists and is absolutely real and undeniable, come forward with proofs to back your claims.

user, the burden is on you to prove Christ did not exist. Basically every historian to ever live since 100 AD has agreed that Christ EXISTED and lived in the early 0's - 33 AD. It's up to you to prove the entire consensus of 2000 years of secular, pagan and religious historical research/writing wrong.

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Stop larping

negro how is this proof

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There are hundreds and hundreds of sources citing the existance of the Lord Jesus in the Bible. Meanwhile PaganLARPers and other eurogod-cucks can't even prove dinosaurs existed

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Believe what you want. See how it works out for you.

0. Cause I say so:

I first read Tacitus' works more then twenty years ago. I don't need a christkike to tell me about an account taken from a random passerby 80 years after the death of a certain person.
>Devil's proof
No one has agreed on anything. We have standards when it comes to historical validity. Yeshua is on a level similar to that of any mythical character. The only people who state otherwise are christians.

Jesus is not an intellectual thing. Jesus is a person you know on a personal level. Read the sermon on the mount and meditate deeply upon it. "Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves." (Matthew 7:15)

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Jesus existed and his existence proves the word of the prophets and thus the word of God

Search the Acts of Pilate

Welcome, brother.

because you can't prove mythology

Beowulf was a dinosaur hunter.

The Jesus you read about in the Bible didn't exist but is probably based off of someone who did exist. Look into the apocrypha which is possibly the actual teachings of Jesus even though a lot of it contradicts things in the accepted Bible that was put together by a committe with conflict of interests. Gospel of Thomas is said to be the oldest gospel.

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omnipotent paradox: can god create a rock so big even he can't lift it?

Christ is a fable created to control the gullible masses. So much of humanity is enslaved by this christ/god delusion.

lol, we got a brainiac here

Yes. Sermon on the Mount is epic. Jesus existed according to Tacitus, Roman historian, so convert now.

Yes he can.

But atheists don't think God is perfect, what comes next?

We got a faggot here.

so then he can't lift it?

Ah, an omnipotence paradox. Divine omnipotence does not mean that God can do anything, it means he can do anything that's possible according to his nature. Since God shows to slowly reveal His nature to humankind over time, we don't know the limits or boundlessness of God.

*Since God slowly reveals His nature

>Since God shows to slowly reveal His nature to humankind over time

=
>since gawd is a made up fairy tale, we don't know shit

Jesus wasn't trying to create robots. Breaking your free will by giving you "proof" is a contradiction to the free will ideology. You have to choose to not be a dumbfuck. He can't force you to not be stupid.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

>31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Just as a father shows his children how to find the answer, but doesn't give them the answer. If God came to you tomorrow as sure as the sunrise and told you to believe in Him, you'd still reject Him. Stop pretending that you're not afraid to fail at believing in God.

in buddhism it is more desirable to not exist

Do you believe in santa too?
What about the easter bunny?

no, if god gave me proof of his existence and not some 2000 year old book and some brainwashed followers giving excuses for why he doesn't provide proof, then I'd believe

Obviously Santa Claus exists.

drop to your knees

that’s enough

>then I'd believe
kek

Yeah man, all those direct witeseness of the resurrection of Jesus Christ were just pranking us when they got whipped to death by the Romans

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You know not what you do.

>Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist
user, you don't have to be religious in the least to believe that the son of a carpenter who amassed a relatively large following before being crucified in Judea existed. His existence is historical fact, it's the miracles that are reliant on faith to believe.

You can decide to believe in it or not, but there is a being up there that is way beyond all comprehension, whether it's god or the universe itself, maybe the thing above the universe(s).

>direct witeseness of the resurrection of Jesus Christ
i witnessed a pig flying once

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>then I'd believe
Even Satan believes

>using the highly contested, subjective definition of a god, slap on some math to make it look like a sum and then strut around like a down syndrome patient who just won a free ice cream
christfags are as much of a blight to free thought as communists, which is why commies try to remove the competition

>confirm my opinions or you're lying
not even clever kikery

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yeah man, all those direct witnesses of Muhammad splitting the moon were just pranking us

there's a point where we should just shut up and accept the numbers as be

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2. Something being more "perfect" than something else doesn't mean it's more likely to exist, a perfectly round sphere is more geometrically and mathematically perfect than a simple somewhat spherical rock, but that doesn't mean that the perfect sphere is more likely to exist, quite the opposite, the most perfect form of perfection can hardly exist if it can to begin with.

3.Then there is also the issue of what you define to be existence, if you define it to be physical existence then you are limiting your Omnipotent God, which is a contradiction, so God cannot exist Physically, so in what other form can he exist?

this is one of the most retarded things I have ever seen

There is more historical proof Jesus existed than most other popular figures in history. Jesus undeniably lived and walked the Earth.

>No one disputes Jesus existed except for a few strange autistic fools like Bart Erhman
Bart Ehrman is one of the last to contest Jesus never existed.

You're thinking of Robert Price, whose writings Erhman rebutted.

You obviously don't understand how 'faith' works.

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I got shivers from reading that. I think I might actually convert back to Christianity. So long, atheism. All you did was make me a doomer anyway.

How do you think occultists have taken a strong command over the world for such a long time??? It is because (((their))) fuckery is actually probably REAL... meaning that the spiritual plane and all of that shit has some sort of real aspect. Ever since the Romans skullfucked Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple, the jews gradually went astray to the point that the Kabbalah and its relative belief systems came more and more popular. This Kabbalah is closely tied to the original Satanic lie that God / Jesus are the REAL liars, and that the most loyal of the occultists can ascend to godlike power. Hints of this are littered in many elements of modern Jewish things, like the Seal of Solomon in the Israeli flag, for example. Look around you. Everyone is blaming Jews for everything wrong in the world, but really, it is the occultism that they went towards a long time ago. In Revelations, many of the Kabbalist demons are mentioned, as well as the alliance between Israel and the Antichrist. Any red pilled individual can see (((they))) are up to no good and something like this is definitely in the realm of possibility (under the belief that their occultist practices work). The signs in Revelations demonstrably shows many elements that you see currently. There are so many signs currently its pretty ridiculous (the great apostasy from behavioral modification/brainwashing, evil Israel, etc.). All I can say is read the Bible and get salvation ASAP because the Tribulation isn’t necessarily started before the rapture, which is why there are so many breadcrumbs revolving aliens in “secret FBI documents” that are constantly fed into propaganda channels on TV today. ((((they))) know the rapture will happen and this is their lie to explain the disappearance of Christians as well as to unite the NWO)

>there is proof
>I won't post a single bit of it though, b-but it exists!

>If you can prove it, I'll drop down to my knees right now and convert to Christianity

Except you won't. Even if God himself showed himself to you, you wouldn't care.

Yes, maybe in the beginning you would be in awe....but in about a month you would return to your degenerate ways. You look corruption too much.

Thus the verse is kept, that says:

>19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

Project harder

>No hard proof
>Believes Christianity formed out of thin air

Well, actually you are 100% wrong. Our evidence comes from Pontius Pilate, the roman prefect that oversaw the trail for Jesus of Nazareth.

Google him and see that historically, and archaeologically there is evidence of a man named Jesus, who was considered a heretic by the Jews and sentenced to death.

Why do you call us cucks user? We're doing more to combat the degeneracy of society than edgy atheists.

Just the other weekend weekend I went to protest a drag queen story hour with 50 other Catholics and there was not a single atheist on our side. Its the same literally every time these things happen

You know it's true.

You are looking for an excuse to not stop your degenerate ways. You need "proof" of God in order to stop being a degenerate and start living piously.

My question is: Do you really need God to start living a moral and pious life? That is why Atheists will never have a moral compass, not in 1000 years.

>Believes Christianity formed out of thin air
>putting words in people's mouth

its an offshoot of judaism which is desert monkey paganism that spread because of its militant ingroup nature and simplicity

even the most basic of cunts can remember 1 god and 1 messiah and that's literally all you need to participate in the cuddle box that is jewish death worship

These fucking atheists literally believe God is a bearded man floating around on a cloud. How fucking dumb can you be?

Wrong. "The entire world" did not and does no such thing. Jesus never existed and there is ZERO physical evidence and/or corroborative literary evidence to support any of the claims attributed to him in the Bible.

>everyone who isn't a christcuck is a drug addict criminal porn addict!
>better double down on the projection because it didn't work the first time!!
Imagine being this deluded. I guarantee you I do more for my community than you do
Now provide proof

Except that the Jews of today still hate Christianity, and recognize that there was a founder who was called Jesus, but they are proud to have killed him and brag about it.

Nobody is denying it's an offshoot. The founder was Jesus, a heretic who was killed by the Jews. His disciples after his death began to spread the word of their master, and 12 churches were formed. Thus Christianity was spread.

Because if things are a mystery then it's easier for true good to overcome mindless yet predictable patterns of locustian self-interest

You can’t prove or disprove it fag

>Why cant christcucks prove the existence of Jesus?
Atheist here. If you have to ask this question your unfit to criticize Christianity,.

Stop embarrassing us.

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Atheists really are some of the stupidest people alive.

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Evidence:

The Gospels

Josephus

The appearance of an organized religious movement called Christianity, which attributes it's founding to Jesus, and appeared at the time that Jesus was purported to live.

The Talmud
Considering the sheer amount of evidence for the existence of Jesus relative to any other figure of antiquity, we can be more confident of Jesus's existence than we can of say Plato's or Socrates'.

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You can't disprove a statue of my mom masturbating on an exoplanet in the Andromeda galaxy either. Do you believe it's there?
That's literally the evidence you're trying to present to me

Nobody is talking about altruism. I'm talking about morality.

It's nice that you do things for your community.
But it doesn't matter if you live a degenerate life with no morality. It only leads you down a life of emptiness, anxiety and depression.

The temporary thrill you get when you indulge in the works of the flesh only last but a moment. When you hold yourself to morality, you find that you are happier.

The response is usually: So what? So what if I corrupt myself? I'm not hurting anybody but me. Well, even in that you are wrong.

You don't belong to you, you belong to God.

>18Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a man can commit is outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.

>p-p-p-prove this historical figure from 2k years ago existed. ha! checkmate.

>it's a christcuck tries to take the moral high ground episode
Lmao are you for real? Do you really think religion is the only way to have morality? Imagine being this much of a brainlet.

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op is a homosexual jewish freemason

Fuck off we're full &the existance of Jesus is not contested by historians, only rabbinical kikes who are not exactly known to be honest, but obsessive compulsive kikes.

You will once you die since you have no faith here on this life

Get ready to bow, faggot

>For God so loved the world he gave his one begotten son to die so that those whose belive in him shall not perish but will have everlasting life

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Yea, you don't exactly have the metaphysical grounding for an objective system of ethics, you just have by your own admission your own subjective sense of right or wrong.

Moreover your arbitrary morality, is certainly deficient in the devotional qualities of Christian morality, and is likely deficient in other areas as well.

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So far I've yet to meet an atheist who isn't a degenerate.

>all sinners must face the wrath of God, naked and alone, only faith in Jesus Christ can spare you

Funny, a Muslim told me the same thing about Muhammad. And guess what, he had actual proof. Why should I believe you instead?

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence
I've never met an openly gay person before, that doesn't mean they don't exist. I mean, I'm replying to one right now

you admit its the same arab ethnic religion with a schism thrown in

the truth is right in front of your face about the origin of your jew shit and you refuse to accept it

everything you read in that book is meaningless

To put it succinctly, not only do Christians testify to the existence of Jesus, with several testimonies contained in the New Testament, but more neutral and even hostile parties recognize a historical Jesus.

Josephus in his history of the Jews briefly mentions Jesus saying that he was good man and that he still has disciples that love him dearly.

The Talmud mentions Jesus, and claims that he was a Black magician, and that he is being punished in hell, and does not dispute his existence.

Pagan enemies of the faith, similarly claim Jesus was a magician, but do not dispute his historic existence.

There's also the fact that an organized religious movement, Christianity, appeared at the time of purported Jesus, and it recognizes him as it's founder. Religious movements have a tendency to preserve the memory of their founders, whether that be say Mormonism with Joseph Smith, Islam with Muhammad or Buddhism with Siddhartha. Moreover organized religious movements need founders.

Considering also the standard of evidence for accepting other figures of antiquity, Christ is the most well attested of any ancient figure.

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Well, let me ask you, why are you against Christianity?

Is it because it makes people "docile" and allows Jews to undermine Western Civilization?

There was no Jesus, and Jews never lived in Egypt.
Abraham was a paranoid schizophrenic who heard voices in his head.
Paul ate ergot-tainted grain, got dehydrated, fell on his head and went into a coma. When he came out he was a Christian instead of a Jew killing Christians.
Constantine converted to Christianity because it would make his subjects docile.
Anything else Jew On A Stick Worshippers need cleared up for them?