This isn't to say that AIDS can be escaped, but only that the government has wrongfully ascertained its cause.
>why would they lie and not tell us the truth, in 30 years?
Liability and political disaster.
>so what?
How can you solve a problem whose cause cannot be claimed, by researches or government, without causing civil unrest?
prove it
>prove that something doesn't exist
user..
Is that the Hit or Miss girl cosplaying as Junko Enoshima?!?!?!
True.
The name is NyanNyanCosplay on Tic Toc.
cool
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>Junko Enoshima
wtf is up with this character and MK ULTRA type behavior?
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Post her thighs
You're making the positive claim that it is due to lifestyle and not HIV.
>talks shit about aids
>posts a crossdresser
you know, if a nigger rapes you, no matter how good of a christian you are, you will end up with Aids.
>You're making the positive claim that it is due to lifestyle and not HIV.
Yes- but claims are not absolute. I'm stating, due to multiple factors, that I don't believe that AIDS is a simple virologic disease.
>AIDS can be acquired through a single exposure
True of blood transfusions. Not (proven to be true) of sexual interactions.
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This was well known by medical professionals and AIDS was originally and more appropriately tittle GRIDS: gay related immune deficiency.
Yes. And notice that the gays rebelled against this, and the government, under pressure, decided to claim that AIDS is due to a virus.
That is, the EMOTIONS of gays, in the 1980s, killed and made sick hundreds of millions of gays AND Africans over the past 100 years...all because gays were offended.
Yet we know its genome is closely related to SID (Simian immunodeficiency virus) and non native species of simians infected with SID develop an AIDs like affliction.
This is BonbiBonkers.
Pic related
Not proven is that HIV causes AIDS.
I meant this one.
Why is it that everyone who has HIV develops AIDs then.
The mechanism is well known the virus attacks the immune system.
>mk-ultra
i know watching 1 minute of that video
mk-ultra they claim they can control people or someshit. what this is, is the only thing they dont understand is how the japanese copy america. or they dont want you to know why. so they make it very popular as teh japanese wont insult you for copying THEM. copying YOU. first because they dont want to be that insulting, 2nd its like gaslighthing them. but doing something bad they wouldnt want you to know that when they make their little dumb anime copy videos. so they just act like they dotn know why japanese make videos that seem to copy americans.
i think anime by watching the few i have is japaneses free speech real stuff. but the only animes i watched ever were ghost in the shell, 1st season. so they were pretty good.
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thes tsupid faggots cant copy this it was actually done by a white guy
>Why is it that everyone who has HIV develops AIDs then.
Not true.
>mk conspiracy
Back to X
keep in mind that it isn't exactly MK Ultra just that TikTok encourages tryhards and they're like trying to act like actors, method acting, overacting, they're pretending to be cartoon characters
it doesn't even have to be MK ultra is it just weaponizing tech/pop culture
also think about it this way... undercover agents take a lot of work and even assets/CIs take a lot of work
but encourage criminality or other weird behavior and you're like training humans to go into positions carelessly/stupidly and do the state's work for them
this applies to political movements, mafias, etc
ghost in the shell the tv series has some really interesting writing and concepts, both the first and second season. second season is interesting with regards to the refugees and it kind of relates to MK ultra in that it is about false memories and setting up people to fulfill a certain path (as political/narrative pawns)
yes true
what is aids?
what is hiv? isn't H.I.V. just human immune o - deficiency virus?
is virus defined? isnt immune system and a deficeincy in it just no white blood cells or lack of them? how is that a fucking virus in any way?
They don't isolate HIV from all AIDS patients.
Give me numbers then
>what is aids?
A syndrome which occurs when the immune system reaches a critical state. It is defined by a CD4+ (Helper T cell) count of is virus defined? isnt immune system and a deficeincy in it just no white blood cells or lack of them? how is that a fucking virus in any way?
The deficiency is caused by attrition from the virus infecting CD4+ cells. They end up getting purged, and the Thymus creates more T-cells to compensate. After prolonged periods, the mechanisms for CD4+ cell production fails and viral load rises, while CD4+ lymphocyte counts drop to lethal levels.
Not every single person who has HIV will convert to AIDS. There are a few reasons for this. Some people have innate resistance. Magic Johnson has a CD4+ receptor mutation which prevents the virus from actually gaining access to the T-helper cells, even though he has HIV. Some people with European ancestry have partial resistance as well based on genetics.
Medication management has been highly successful in preventing conversion to AIDS as the cocktails prevent HIV replication at multiple steps in the process (which also reduces the ability to build-up resistance).
>numbers
I'm unsure what you mean.
The proteins use in HIV determination are not understood.
>The deficiency is caused by attrition from the virus infecting CD4+ cells. They end up getting purged, and the Thymus creates more T-cells to compensate. After prolonged periods, the mechanisms for CD4+ cell production fails and viral load rises, while CD4+ lymphocyte counts drop to lethal levels.
While your observations are correct, the mechanics of them are not.
>While your observations are correct, the mechanics of them are not.
What are you proposing that explains the attrition of CD4+ cell production from the thymus?
>The proteins use in HIV determination are not understood.
Are you arguing against ELISA, the Western Blot/PCR, or both? While there are protein based studies which look for HIV via the presence of immunoglobulins/antibodies, confirmation is provided by detecting HIV virus directly in the DNA through PCR.
Nothing. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but that your mechanism isn't shown, to any degree, to be correct.
To clarify, we agree that there is a long-term reduction in CD4+ cells via attrition of the thymus, which can be evidenced by the increased production of immature and Naive cells etc., and rather linear CD4+ depletion rate over time.
However, you content that the damage is not caused by the HIV retrovirus? I don't want to put words in your mouth.
what you talked about is bullshit not a virus
>increased production of immature and Naive cells etc., and rather linear CD4+ depletion rate over time.
bull-shit. a rather linear a rather is an adjective. eat shit
>you contend that the damage is not caused by the HIV retrovirus?
I don't (necessarily) believe in HIV, in isolation, causes AIDS.
There is too much variation, in testing and other patterns, for me to believe that HIV is the single/primary cause.
>bull-shit. a rather linear a rather is an adjective. eat shit
I'm not entirely sure which specific things you are attacking. Determining immaturity in white cells is robust, and one of the main diagnostic indicators for determining things like leukemia. The immature cells can be things like blasts or prolymphocytes. Rather linear meant that it isn't simply a direct line, but that there is variation involved in the destruction of CD4+ cells in the general natural history of the disease process.
>There is too much variation
I guess this would be the area that I'd have to understand to really see it from your viewpoint. Does this include things like the large range for conversion to AIDS, which can be between 5-20 years? Actually, I can allow you to opine on it rather than guessing.
>in testing and other patterns
This one is a little more confusing to me, as PCR with the ability to show direct genome infection in the DNA seems definitive. The older ELISA did suffer from lower sensitivity and specificity which is why it is mostly relegated to initial screening.
I suspect the people arguing here are arguing in bad faith. They don't define any of the terms they use but rather argue in vagaries.
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It all needs to be cleansed in flame.
End it now
You are just now figuring that out? You should have lurked more, faggot!
This is satire, you dumbass mother fucker , go somewhere else
Does this art actually offend you?
>They don't define any of the terms they use but rather argue in vagaries.
I'm not saying that HIV isn't associated with AIDS, only that it's not a sole cause.
To reduce your chances of stds, including aids. Eat uncooked garlic and onions. While practicing anal sex, use coconut oil as lube. I've never had sex with a man, but I've fucked a lot of females in the ass over the years. I'm in my late 40s and have a clean bill of health. Never ever had an std and I get regular check ups.
God I hate this trapezoid headed dyke
>t. faggot
I agree. The AIDS psyop is becoming clear to me in a number of ways
> HIV is claimed to be the cause of AIDS but only seldom does HIV indicate later AIDS onset
> AIDS is not a virus in and of itself. It is a syndrome. Still, a viral "cure" is sought. This reeks of doublespeak
> Early AIDS treatments (AZT) were incredibly fatal, but that fatality rate did not discourage doctors. Something was definitely odd
> AIDS incidence in Africa has been wildly overreported. Some reports say 1 in 3 people in Africa have HIV/AIDS. According to African doctors this is pure invention
The answer to all this is AIDS is the collapse of the immune system due to extreme degeneracy, from both gay sex and drug use. At some point your body just falls apart
It was used as a propaganda weapon in several ways to promote homosexuality and birth control, however. "It's not a gay disease!" they used to shout. But now drugs are explicitly marketed to gays on multimillion dollar ad campaigns to "prevent aids"
It's just been judaism from the start
idk
How come we can see the HIV virus in a microscope?
Most with AIDS have had anal sex with 400-500 partners, whom are unhealthy.
Pretty retarded post OP but it led to an interesting thread.
>HIV exists
>therefore it causes AIDS
The absolute state of education.
>Early AIDS treatments (AZT) were incredibly fatal, but that fatality rate did not discourage doctors. Something was definitely odd
Funny how many gays and Africans the American government has killed. And imo this is why they can't say they were wrong.
Post is fine. The state of education, throughout the world, is not. It's mostly just an appeal to authority.
Heh you are going to have to try harder if you wish to offend me.
this is the saddest i have read today. Amerikikes are this illiterate?
i want to fuck her boipussi and suck on her tony balls
They have mutt brains.
I would say your a man of culture but that would be a bit on the nose.
Bump for nyannyancosplay
Is it an HIV positive claim?
So what about feline HIV? Cat degeneracy?
What is the problem? Only faggots and niggers have a problem. That sounds like a solution, actually if you ask me.
>feline hiv
>is same virus-type as human hiv