abortion in america.
constitutional right?
why? why not?
Abortion in america
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of course not fucking moron
i can't believe it was ever made legal in this country t b h. especially with our "christian foundation"
Yes and no.
It's not a federal power. It's a state issue.
It's either a medical procedure, and regulated by the state, or it's murder, and regulated by the state.
agreed 100%, but it is argued otherwise...
time to overturn RvW based on advances in technology
Why can't the woman just close her legs?
Let's be honest, real rape is rare like a diamond. Unless you give the father abortion rights too (ie: infanticide) then I don't think it's appropriate.
where's the distinction between federal/state, honestly asking.
pregnancy is preventable is 99% of cases.
>women having personal responsibility.
you do not understand, they NEED to have unprotected sex with strangers.
the right to physical integrity is enshrined in the constitution
The state does not have the right to compel a citizen to undergo any medical procedure, which includes bring a child to term.
Because women are worthless whores and white knight fags are just as bad
which advances in technology?
oh that makes sense. they are sociopaths, after all.
obstetric ultrasonography
oh! you mean the "permanently alter the cellular structure of the fetal never tissue with ultrasonic cavitation bubbles"? no thanks.
if it comes out fresh, I'll keep it. if it comes out dodgy I'll drown it in the bath.
All I care bout is that is that non-white babies continue to be murdered. Kill all non-white babies before they can take a single breath of air
prig fee fees trump peasant rights
could you elaborate
all human life is equally important.
IMO
just the level of detail earlier in the pregnancy
depends on if you own your own body or not, you could be denied a surgical abortion but you could deliver your own natural abortion using herbs and there would be no way to stop you
a law that cannot be enforced should not exist, you can't legislate moral issues,
What does the level of detail indicate?
Article 1 Section 8 and Amendment 10 of the constitution.
Together, these say if it's not empowered by article 1, section 8 then it is a state power.
To think the founders thought the 10th was redundant. Little did they know that the people would become so fucking ignorant they can't even parse the words and think "welfare" give the fed absolute power.
life
I want non-whites to be murdered on as large a scale as possible and abortion is the only politically, socially, and legally acceptable method to get that accomplished.
There are around 600 to 700 thousand abortions in the US per year according to the CDC with a majority being non-whites and around 50 million abortions per year worldwide according to the WHO of which a majority are from non-white countries
"On average, 56 million abortions occurred worldwide each year in 2010–2014."
>who.int
How does that affect the mother's right to physical integrity?
thank you for that explanation....i knew of state/federal but not the distinction.
i promotes support for the child's right to physical integrity
>Why can't the woman just close her legs?
In my case, mom needed 25 cents to feed her 4 month old baby (my older brother) and her 4 older teenagers. Her husband and father of her children was spending all the money on his girl friend and his beer buddies at the lumber mill.
So, the parish priest gave it to dear old mom.. both ways! And here I am today because Abortion was illegal.
lil donnie?
Its not. The supreme court however forced it in the past. Essentially there is precedent now but no support under that. So its the law of the land unless the Supreme court overturns the decision. Since the original decision had no support people some people feel its vulnerable.
>birth is a medical procedure
Ahahahah nope you faggot chink leaf. If giving birth (a natural function) is a medical procedure simply cause we have attached procedures to it then so is fucking coughing, pissing, taking a shit, breathing etc. All which have become medical procedures. Birth is a natural function, and its one that concerns a unique life at that.
Thats not a medical procedure. The medical procedure is killing the life growing inside its mother.
What is your argument when you finally live in a white state you retard? No one will care cause it never held any weight
or restriction
What?
makes sense
>constitutional right?
In order for it to be a constitutional right, the constitution would have to be amended.
Right now it's a legal right, which can be taken away if the court rules against it.
of course
it was just made up
>muh privacy
but you can't grow weed in your basement or pay someone for sex or 100 other private things
yo, lil donnie.
Yes, the libs didn't and still don't have the support for a constitutional amendment so they use judicial activism to get their way.
Same with faggot marriage, support of illegal immigrants and every single gun law.
nice explanation
The child's right to life, by definition, infringes on the mother's right to physical integrity. Where that clash of rights occurs, we as a society have determined that the pragmatic, practical and humane solution is to promote the mother's right over the child's.
That is the conclusion that the SCOTUS came to in the 1970s. 40 years later and now we have piles of research that back up the reasoning of the court. By providing safe abortions, the state will ultimately provided for the life, liberty and security of its citizens.
I think you have been seriously mislead if you honestly believe that some pictures of little fetus fingers or and electromagnetic spasm are going to convince the justices otherwise.
>nice explanation
So remember that next time a woman/faggot tells you that abortion is a right.
Then ask them to pass a constitutional amendment to ratify it. Their eyes will glaze over.
Are you replying to the right person? Your post makes no sense.
I want non-whites to die and abortion is the only politically, socially, and legally acceptable method to get that accomplished and in large numbers. Abortion is a non-white genocidal system.
If you want to ban whites from getting abortions you have my support but non-whites babies need to die as fast as possible and in as large of numbers as possible and abortion is the way to do it.
>I think you have been seriously mislead if you honestly believe that some pictures of little fetus fingers or and electromagnetic spasm are going to convince the justices otherwise.
That's because the members of the government worship Moloch and believe every abortion is a sacrifice to Moloch. They don't really care about saving lives or protecting lives or the welfare of anyone. They just want their sacrifices.
>he doesnt know sex is a contract tentatively signing away this physical integrity for 9 months
Anyways pendulums already swinging, less and less people buy your mental gymnastics every day
>That's because the members of the government worship Moloch and believe every abortion is a sacrifice to Moloch
That's because the members of the government worship Moloch and believe every abortion is a sacrifice to Moloch
see, that's the part that I think you may have been mislead on
What is your argument and justification against abortion when you live in a white state
Not to mention you cant use lethal force to enforce your rights unless you feel in lethal danger
>see, that's the part that I think you may have been mislead on
Then why do the abortionists act exactly like that?
If they're not worshiping Moloch (funny how spell check wants to capitalize that), they're certainly soulless and immoral psychopaths.
based scalia
>he doesnt know sex is a contract tentatively signing away this physical integrity for 9 months
For a contract to be legally actionable it requires offer, acceptance and consideration.
What is the consideration for this contract?
Having children is the implied benefit, and sexual pleasure. Are you even trying?
>Then why do the abortionists act exactly like that?
Do you think its possible that you suffer from a confirmation bias?
How many women in your life have had an abortion? Have you asked them?
>For a contract to be legally actionable it requires offer, acceptance and consideration.
Except in the case of abortion, which only requires the consent of one parent and especially not the life that is being ended.
>It's not a federal power. It's a state issue.
this
it wasn't specifically mentioned in the constitution so therefore isn't for the federal govt to decided
>Why can't the woman just close her legs?
same reason why dudes are always ready to jump in
>Do you think its possible that you suffer from a confirmation bias?
Nope. I've seen far too much information on the abortionists to believe otherwise.
>How many women in your life have had an abortion?
Zero. But I don't associate with murderers.
>Have you asked them?
Why do you think a person that would murder their child has an informed, relevant opinion?
>Nope. I've seen far too much information on the abortionists to believe otherwise.
I want you to tell me what you think confirmation bias means.
It can't be illegal, wait and see what happens. Women will just harm themselves to get it done. No it's not like 'doing drugs' or some other bullshit false equivalency.
>I want you to tell me what you think confirmation bias means.
That someone seeks out only the information that proves them right.
Now why don't you prove that I didn't come to my conclusions via research and constant exposure to the abortionists.
Besides, why would I listen to the abortionists justifications or arguments?
You have no real arguments back to chinkland please
because you believe the united states government worships a cow god and feeds it babies
>because you believe the united states government worships a cow god and feeds it babies
And why is that so hard for you to accept?
Additional, do you support abortion?
>right to physical integrity
what a meme
You're arguing abortion and why you agree with the SCOTUS's unconstitutional decision. That wasn't the question. The question was about the US constitution allows the federal government any say in this, and it doesn't. The decision is up to the states.
The intent of the constitution is that the states have almost TOTAL domestic sovereignty while the state government only handles issues of international and interstate.
Abortion isn't either of those.
If you spend too much time out in the sun, and you get burned, does that infringe a persons 'right to physical integrity'?
No because you can’t be deprived of life without due process
Should we encourage parish priests to have their way with female parishioners?
...
They are usually intelligent, and highly educated. Far more so than your average pleb.
>Posts "Where there's a will, there's a way" in toomany words
>Tries to caveat that to remove arguments against him
Pic related is you trying to kill yourself.
>Women will just harm themselves to get it done.
Thereby justifying why it was made illegal in the first place.
If they can't be trusted not to harm themselves they shouldn't be rewarded for that lack of trust.
In the US there are very few "white states" and as I have said above I have no problem banning white abortions. The problem is blanket abortion bans keep non-whites from receiving abortion services.
I want whites to stop aborting their children but I want non-whites to increase their number of abortions
>Additional, do you support abortion?
For the same reason that the SCOTUS does?
Abortion represents a conflict of interest between the fetus' right to life, which necessarily infringes on the mother's right to physical integrity.
The court concluded that by promoting the mother's right over the child, it would not only reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies but would also kill the demand for dangerous, unlicensed abortions. The research in the decades since have backed up this notion 100%
There is also no practical way of detecting the committed crime is there? Or do you want cameras installed in everywhere with mandatory piss tests for all citizens? Learn to think, pleb.
>For the same reason that the SCOTUS does?
That they want murder unborn children?
>Abortion represents a conflict of interest between the fetus' right to life, which necessarily infringes on the mother's right to physical integrity.
So to you, an unborn child is akin to a cancerous growth of tissue, that is nothing but a burden to the mother and to soceity?
Yet you wonder why I believe abortionists worship the dark god Moloch?
>The court concluded that by promoting the mother's right over the child,
Because they support the murder of the "soulless lump of its mother's flesh" not because of any legal or constitutional reason.
>it would not only reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies
So child murder is acceptable as long as the child is "unwanted"?
>but would also kill the demand for dangerous, unlicensed abortions.
And yet those same people think banning guns will eliminate gun crime.
> The research in the decades since have backed up this notion 100%
Research by biased organization that support abortion and want to continue to support abortions.
Because if the evidence said otherwise, they'd let us know, right?
"oh the research says child murder is acceptable therefore child murder is acceptable. Hail Moloch!"
>So to you, an unborn child is akin to a cancerous growth of tissue, that is nothing but a burden to the mother and to soceity?
No. As I said, the the child has a right to life which necessarily infringes on the mother's right to physical integrity. Do you disagree?
>not because of any legal or constitutional reason.
The mother has a right to physical integrity enshrined in the Bill or Rights. The state cannot bar her from medical intervention, nor can they compel to bring the child to term.
>So child murder is acceptable as long as the child is "unwanted"?
No, because the child has a right to life.
>Research by biased organization that support abortion and want to continue to support abortions.
>Because if the evidence said otherwise, they'd let us know, right?
Do you remember when you told me that you didn't suffer from confirmation bias?
>Women will just harm themselves to get it done.
*robber attempts to rob a store.*
*gets shot*
"Maybe he shouldn't have attempted to rob the store?"
*Woman gets an illegal abortion*
*dies*
"THIS IS HORRIBLE! THIS IS EXACTLY WHY ABORTION NEEDS TO BE LEGALIZED!"
>No. As I said, the the child has a right to life which necessarily infringes on the mother's right to physical integrity. Do you disagree?
Absolutely I disagree.
A child does not infringe upon any rights of the mother.
Having a child is a natural state of being.
>The mother has a right to physical integrity enshrined in the Bill or Rights
Where does it say in the bill of rights that a mother inherently trump the rights of the unborn child?
>The state cannot bar her from medical intervention,
Which ends at the child. Because the child is not her.
>nor can they compel to bring the child to term.
But the child isn't the mother. For your argument to be correct, the child must be a soulless lump of its mother's flesh.
>No, because the child has a right to life.
Except currently when the mother says otherwise.
>Do you remember when you told me that you didn't suffer from confirmation bias?
I don't give a fuck what you think of me.
because human life is not equally important. Ask yourself: why are non-whites constantly trying to move into white countries, leaving their fellow non-whites to live in societies that whites have created? Whites objectively are more important than other groups by any metric one can think of, esp. in countries founded by whites for the purpose of serving whites. No other group thinks it's OK for their non-white country to have it's citizens replaced by whites. Jews don't. Blacks don't. Asians don't. Why should whites?
I bet you would be a lot happier if you just accepted Moloch into your life, user.
How do you plan on detecting if an 'illegal abortion' has been attempted? Detecting a robber is easy, shit went missing and a nigger showed up on the cctv.
You're already well on the road to that in Britain, so why not?
>How do you plan on detecting if an 'illegal abortion' has been attempted?
The same way any time a crime is committed and the authorities learn about it. Reports, investigation, evidence, testimony, etc.
It's like you're suggesting that abortion is the perfect crime and no one would ever get caught.
>I bet you would be a lot happier if you just accepted Moloch into your life, user.
Justice is needed just as much in life as happiness.
why?
>why?
Without justice you have disorder.
50 million murdered children sine roe vs wade is not justice. it is disorder.
I'm suggesting there is no practical way of detecting it. What if the powers that be made pissing in the shower illegal. What then? Back to automatic piss tests in the sewer system is it?
Reports:
>well, I think she'd been fucking
Evidence:
>Mandatory on-the-spot piss tests for all thots
Investigation:
>thot ppolice
get fucking real will you
>abortion in america.
>constitutional right?
Yes
>why?
Because the Supreme Court said so.
Is it possible to have too much order?
>get fucking real will you
Where do you think you are, user?
>young girl admitted into hospital with alcohol poisoning
>well, she is female, so we're gonna have to pregnancy test the bitch, someone call the police.
>Is it possible to have too much order?
Nope. Order is needed for society. Certain things must be illegal for the good of the people.
There is no positive for having abortion be legal.
What if a married woman says to her husband “no i don’t want to have sex”.
Retardia from the looks of it.
>>well, she is female, so we're gonna have to pregnancy test the bitch, someone call the police.
Is there evidence or suspicion of rape and/or pregnancy?
>The child's right to life, by definition, infringes on the mother's right to physical integrity.
>mother's right to physical integrity.
think about what you just wrote here. The very definition of a mother is to be with child (gestating or caring for). The physical integrity of a "mother" requires the child intact.
Why to you think Ginburg was so adamant in saying that a Mother that kills her own child is no longer a "mother" ?
>Scalia
i gotchu bro
>There is no positive for having abortion be legal.
less back alley abortions