>criticize modern world for being degenerate, prefer trad things on a visceral, gut level
>go back in time, those trad things were once degenerate new shit
>even things like kabuki or elvis were scandalously degenerate in their own time
>tfw all conservatives would be liberals if sent back in time
>tfw all liberals are just conservatives if sent forward in time
>tfw centrism and reactionary ideologies don't make sense either
Existential crisis thread
Daniel Wright
Tyler Kelly
I'll be honest, I've been thinking about how I would be viewed if I was liberal, and I realized that most people I know including minorities would call me a cuck
So there's still some semblance of sanity
Levi Roberts
Wrong. You have a superficial analysis.
Yes, "conservatives" favor the past and "progressives" favor the future, in general.
But you need to increase the timescale you're looking at. If you look at timescales of thousands of years, then a conservative is someone who looks at the way strong societies were run, and picks that.
A progressive is someone who looks at strong societies and says they were wrong.
William Sullivan
Stop focusing on surface elements you brainlet.
Jayden Jones
So if you lived in Rome and you were worrying about Rome's moral decay you'd just back to ancient Greece or Egypt as a better model...
and you'd still be in the same dilemma
Adrian Davis
Burn a fag flag at a faggot festival this Summer.
Make sure to wear a ski mask.
Know the local police response times.
Scope the place out first.
Know what you're going to be yelling as the flag burns.*
Have your escape routes planned.
Do it when the police aren't nearby.
Consider leaving your phone behind if you're worried about being tracked.
Work quickly and safely.
And don't forget to bring a gun in case you're put into a self-defense situation and need to defend your free speech and prop comedy act.
[PLAYING CAPTURE THE FLAG]
If you need a fag flag, drive around a rich neighborhood until you find a house flying the flag.
Wear a ski mask to prevent an CCTV's getting your face.
Park your car far away and walk over to the house to get the flag in the dead of night.
*"This flag is being burned in solidarity for all the children who have been sexually and mentally abused by the faggot community."
Leo Ward
>So if you lived in Rome and you were worrying about Rome's moral decay you'd just back to ancient Greece or Egypt as a better model
No, it's not the same dilemma i don't think.
Because in that case, the only conservatives who disagree with you are the ones looking at short time scales. The ones who look at long timescales are going to come to an agreement with you
Caleb Cruz
so if I transport Hitler forward in time to present day he's going to overlook my heavy metal albums because he's a big picture conservative?
what if you went forward in time and all the big picture conservatives in the future were milo style homos?
Lincoln Harris
roko's basilisk
there, now im safe
Grayson Harris
I don't really get how that could be the case.
Big picture conservatives are going to look across time to when societies are strong historically, and adopt those morals.
They're going to look at rome, and greece, and egypt and find what it is about those that made the society great. (This is essentially what hitler did)
Liking heavy metal is a superficial detail. Hitler and you can both point to rome and agree on things that are good morals to have in society. There's never going to be a big picture conservative that supports faggotry because homosexuality always coincides with social decline