We NEED to start organizing online in a less rudimentary way (not imageboards) in order to efficiently counter-attack the left pushing our shit in constantly. Antifa already does this.
Good organizational and logistical capacity is the key to success.
The main issues however that could arise when attempting this are:
a) shit leadership takes control of the operations
b) communications can be shut down on all popular platforms, and it's hard to get people to start using unpopular platforms
c) morale will have to be kept high in order to keep people committed
d) Antifa will be infiltrating constantly and spying on the operations
However if all can be avoided, or at least the first 3, then the power of such a group would be immense.
A tactic that could be used is developing spambots for websites with high traffic and relatively unstrict moderation.
The spambots would constantly post pro-white messages, and also a link to where the operations are being organized in order to assure exponential growth in those participating. Moderators would keep out Jewish demoralization shills.
If some Jow Forumsentoomen contribute enough spambots for different websites in the beginning, the group could easily reach 100,000+ members that are participating in just a few months.
After it grows to a mass this large, it can start do mass authetic flagging/emailing advertisers campaigns, comments brigading, meme/infographic creation, etc. practically instantly, constantly, and whenever needed.
Either that or we stay as a disorganized mess on every platform but here and we keep getting deplatformed. Only a mass group efficiently organized can manipulate algorithms.
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Eagerly waiting to see what happens.
>The spambots would constantly post pro-white messages, and also a link to where the operations are being organized in order to assure exponential growth in those participating.
This is actually a genius idea, but it's probably going to be underrated on here.
I have little skill but a heart that yearns for freedom and justice.
Tell me what I can do, and I shall do it.
Additionally, Skype is relatively secure, as groups are essentially private.
you are retarded if you think Skype is secure, google it.
Skyle= Microsoft
>skype
>secure
Not sure if joking.
I wasn't, and I see I was wrong.
Set up a Riot channel
about.riot.im
Skype is garbage, and for other reasons than just bad security.
It would probably be best to organize it over Riot.im, or something else with an easy to use web client and also can give notifications for when a particular user is needed for something.
Everyone should be on tutanota also, encrypted end to end
screencapping in case this doesn't pick up immediately
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also
stop linking youtube faggot
The problem is that our organizing is a huge taboo while left organization is tacitly encouraged. It can be done, but the fact that it needs the opsec of a military intelligence operation is a huge nuisance and a handicap
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There is a lot fags on here can do, but don't.
If you want to support White Activism do the following :
>If a burger and living in US, find the nearest White Advocacy group and join it. Doesn't matter if it is Identitarians or just a local group. They don't have to be perfect. Joining a advocacy group is better than nothing. That being said, avoid alocholic, porn watching, degenerate Nazi Untermensch larpers. Optics ARE important.
>If in Europe, find your local nationalist, Identitarian movement and JOIN it. Support it and devote your skills, free time, extra cash to it.
>If you are living aboard, DONATE to these groups. There are many expats living abroad for work, short term and long term, who support these causes. They have the financial resources to support Nationalist movements. Any donation helps.
>Read. Read. Read. Become a force in and of yourself. Read history, philosophy, whatever. Read Sales for that matter. Anything that makes you a stronger, smarter, wiser person.
>Lift, exercise, eat healthy, & take care of your appearance. The Golden One on YT is 100% right when he talks about optics for the metaphysical battle. The people who wish to destroy us peg us as basement dwelling retards. When we look like Adonis with Fashy style, it destroys their narrative in the most visceral way.
Just having white kids and posting on Jow Forums isn't enough. WE NEED BOOTS and people advocating ACTIVELY. On Social Media or face-to-face, activism is a must.
Join and support your local groups. Get active. Donate money. Make a youtube channel. Organize events.
Charlottesville was demonized by the media but it was a great success. It showed that we are hear and not afraid. It emboldens. Those events NEED to be repeated.
For every single guy out there, if you stay non-violent, the only thing you have to lose is your job if you get singled out at these events as a WN supporter.
Is your job worth living the rest of your life knowing you haven't done shit?
This is a weak excuse. "Taboo"
There are hundreds of groups around the US and Europe that are meeting and organizing RIGHT NOW despite it being taboo.
I bet you haven't even looked into your nearest Identitarian or WN group. They are out there and they are working on it.
This doesn't mean getting on facebook and screaming shit about blacks.
POSITIVE networking and advocacy, like what Golden One does on YT is the best way forward. It redpills and inspires others to join without being weak to criticism like flat out nazi larping is.
>but the fact that it needs the opsec of a military intelligence operation is a huge nuisance and a handicap
not necessarily if there's enough people on board, it would be very difficult to disrupt the group if it were large enough so opsec wouldn't be a huge issue beyond the basics
I don't know how you would organize a group as large as OP imagines though, even large scale raid parties in popular MMOs are at maximum 1000 members participating
What about the Darknet?(Tor and I2P)
this riot is the way to go
How exactly am I finding my local WN group? Google? Facebook? If I can find it, why couldn't someone whose intent was doxxing the members find it?
We'd need a collapse.
Search for Identitarian groups. They are everywhere and one of the biggest groups out there still.
If not, avoid words like "white nationalism" and instead search for European Advocacy groups.
John Birch Society.
Tyrannical gov be like.......
>I’m making a list of “bad” people please sign up
I would 100% be interested in some sort of movement made by people on here. Bump for interest.
>Antifa already does this.
thats because TPTB allow it
>even large scale raid parties in popular MMOs are at maximum 1000 members participating
Comparing apples to oranges, those require up to hours (or even days) worth of constant co-ordination with complex tasks, for most members an advocacy group would require you to take a small chunk out of your day to do simple tasks.
You would probably structure it with a hierarchy where the most capable is on top, and vice versa. NEETs for example would be higher ranked and given more advocacy tasks to complete daily than wagies.
And like those types of raids, yes it probably would require to have someone do spreadsheets to organize everything.
By merely browsing/posting here, you are already put on a watchlist.
Members of groups like Antifa are on watchlists too and they don't give a shit, neither should you.
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Bump for interest and support.
Hi FBI.
The actual best method to convert is to emphasize as one of them having a crisis of faith in ideology and ask all of the inconvenient questions there are no comfortable answers to. They either shun you completely and prove they're shit humans unwilling to break coding or you change their mind in my experience.
We need to build our own youtube
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>Every attempt at organising is a glowie
This is faggot tier cowardice.
Going expecting "happenings" while everyone cowers and doesn't want to organize because they are till afraid of shaming.
>everyone who disagrees is a kike
>anyone who still likes white women is himself a roastie or an incel
From what i have read, Antifa uses an app that encrypts all communication. it requires an antifa representative to install it for you when they vet you.
this is the backbone of their communications and organization. is there not something similar that can be developed or adopted?
additionally, we should be cellular in nature, no cell larger then 5 persons, each cell working for a common goal but no direct cross efforts. if we provide a centralized hierarchy it can be infiltrated and manipulated. the left EXCEL at political jockeying, this is why they rise to power and overtake group leadership so quickly.
perhaps we have a system for suggesting strategy / actions/ directives and use a darwinistic system to determine the best course of action with the many groups voting on the actions, perhaps regionally? i would keep the voting system anonymous.
additionally we should start to look into developing either "mens clubs" or mentoring clubs of some sort. there are A LOT of disenfranchised and demoralized young men out there that have been demonized their entire lives never having had a proper male role model. this might be a great way to grow our numbers while subverting the leftist perversions with traditionalist ideals.
Fuck it. I doubt anybody on here is going to take the initiative. Anybody interested in a Riot server? Maybe we can actually get some shit going.
This is ironic btw
New this thread would be a gem
you need a digital currency
I like it
Yeah why not just do that. They're so old school everyone forgot about them so they're a relatively safe place to join
Please make it easier for your fringe minority to be easier to track down and executed for treason in your various countries.
this guy gets it physical shit is yesteryear what you need is an objective bound digital currency
Mens club is the best option.Start them young like sports clubs do. Trust me it will work its the best option, They need the young people to continue the cycle without them they are fucked.
Go for it.
I don't think OP was implying that the group would be relevant in the meatspace.
It would be about white advocacy online in an organized fashion.
An example of what it could do is on the trending page of YouTube, everyone (thousands and thousands of people) could go to the comments section of each video and post mass amounts of redpilled propaganda, and then like each other's comments so it shows up at the top for minutes worth of scrolling. And then do this every single day.
you need a system where non ideological outsiders buy into the objective for tangible gains
No. One of our strongest assets is precisely the anonimity and lack of organization that imageboards like Jow Forums provide.
Lack of leaders means there are no clear targets for the opposition to target. In order to combat this the left has resorted to propping up strawmen like (((Richard Spencer))), proclaiming them the "leaders of the alt right" and then tearing them down, hoping to bring down the movement with them. The reason it failed is precisely that such individuals were not genuine leaders to begin with, and nobody on the right gives a fuck about them. Organization means genuine leaders, which means this tactic now becomes effective.
The existence of leaders also inevitably means time and effort invested into ineffective (or even counterproductive) tactics. No leader is ever correct about everything, and they will inevitably come up with bad ideas, which will be followed thru due to the loyalty of their fanbase. The lack of leadership means that when an idea is proposed, all individuals now make an objective evaluation of whether this idea is good or not, regardless of the person proposing it.
Also, it's an unwritten rule that right wing organizations are either founded as honeypots or inevitably turn into them over time. There is no reason to belive that whatever you come up with will be an exception.
You also haven't explained how this would make us any more powerful then we currently are. If there is an effort that you believe we should devote our time and energy on, make a thread explaining and proposing it. If people agree with you they'll help make it happen. If your idea sucks it will be dismantled and ignored. This is how Jow Forums has operated since the very earliest pranks of knocking over trash cans on live cameras, and it's proven to be effective.
>and then like each other's comments so it shows up at the top
>he still thinks youtube orders comments based on likes
Nah mate, it's a clustering algorithm. You're shown comments from people that share your interests and beliefs.
By doing what you proposed the lefties still wouldn't see any of those comments, and the people who engaged in it would create an even tighter cluster, making it easier to identify and seperate them for whatever purpose (like youtube proclaiming that you're all trolls based on your behavior and banning your accounts)
I'm not sure if that will be entirely necessary.
If the group is large and organized enough, and is starting to make a noticeable impact, then people will want to participate just to be apart of something. The scale of what OP is suggesting is unheard of on the internet before.
Plus some will get redpilled when they join the Riot server or whatever.
>Lack of leaders means there are no clear targets for the opposition to target.
There is no means in which the opposition can target them really.
If they aren't operating on a cucked platform, their communications can't be taken down, and if they aren't retarded with OPSEC, they won't be doxed.
People like Richard Spencer are individual thought leaders that function as public figures.
The leader of the advocacy group probably wouldn't be making any public statements or be trying to invent an ideology, they would only be co-ordinating the group's efforts to spread existent WhiteNat/NatSoc messages.
>You also haven't explained how this would make us any more powerful then we currently are. If there is an effort that you believe we should devote our time and energy on, make a thread explaining and proposing it. If people agree with you they'll help make it happen.
It makes us more powerful due to the exponential growth factor that linking back to the group will provide.
Also efforts rarely catch on even if most agree that it's a good idea (e.g. the fashtag).
There just isn't enough of us to combat the growing amounts of censorship online without more organization abilities that imageboards can't really provide.
Trending videos tend to only have a few thousand comments at most when they trend, a group the size of what OP suggested could easily bruteforce their way to the top, or even form accounts that will appeal to leftist clusters.
Banned accounts mean nothing if you can just make new ones.
Words of wisdom
Alright. Hopefully I did this right, I don't really use Riot or Matrix. I just made a temporary room to get an idea of who all is interested. After that we can either make a legit Matrix room or host our own.
matrix.to
>they would only be co-ordinating the group's efforts
What does this mean if not making decision on part of the whole group on what to invest time and effort into? Refer to the second point I made in that post.
>It makes us more powerful due to the exponential growth factor that linking back to the group will provide.
You can link back to Jow Forums as well, achieving the same thing. And the anonymous shitposting nature of this site also happens to be extremely effective at redpilling people, see pic related. If there's anywhere that normies should be linked to, it's this place.
>Also efforts rarely catch on even if most agree that it's a good idea (e.g. the fashtag).
If it didn't catch on then obviously most people didn't think it was a good idea.
>There just isn't enough of us to combat the growing amounts of censorship online
And dividing the community between Jow Forums and multiple other platforms will help with that?
>a group the size of what OP suggested could easily bruteforce their way to the top
You can achieve the same from right here. Keep in mind the number of lurkers on Jow Forums greatly overshadows the number of posters. Every thread made on Jow Forums is bound to be read by thousands of people. If you believe spamming youtube videos with redpill comments is a good idea, that effort can be organised from Jow Forums. There is no need for groups or organisations outside this site, in fact it only leads to vulnerabilities that could be exploited.
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this is what I mean you only need a force amplifier
What seems to be the problem officer?
Not really a problem, we are not advocating violence, Who cares if they know our plans anyway? We must focus on gaining support from the public at large.
Kill yourself
Why would you join a glownigger group?
riot for sure, looks like a secure discord
have sex
>Not really a problem, we are not advocating violence
Enjoy getting doxxed, fired from your job and having your life destroyed by a bunch of butthurt lefties.
That fact that you didn't commit a crime won't bother them in the slightest.
i keep getting banned, not really free speech here..
Bump. Based OP.
I’m in. I’ve never been on Riot but have heard of it.
>The spambots would constantly post pro-white messages, and also a link to where the operations are being organized in order to assure exponential growth in those participating.
So no OpSec/criteria for being let in? Sounds like that would be easily subverted big guy.
The answer is to get off the internet and start a gang or club. Take the Gangpill
false you don't go out of your field of expertise
IRL collectivism is the only way forward. The internet will get censored. Individualism is of good goys and jews.
why not use telegram. or develop your own chat application
Let it begin.
>Sounds like that would be easily subverted big guy.
no because you just ban the cunts who are Jewish, it's not like Jow Forums where the jannies are neutral
>redpill bot
RIP Tay
Also retards, RIOT just had a huge leak where all passwords and emails registered with the app were put online
Trust it at your own risk
Fucked up my formatting
Top part was meant for
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>We NEED to start organizing online in a less rudimentary way (not imageboards) in order to efficiently counter-attack the left pushing our shit in constantly
there is no left or right user, only christian and jew
Which are you?