Why do people still fall for failed suicide cult ideologies in the 21st century?

Because liberalism, classical or otherwise is bullshit. Ethnic supermajority of a nation matters. Look at how Austrailia now has to deal with their own people boycotting the national anthems and shit. Fuck that. Ill take authoritarian thugs over peaceful losers compromising victory for principles that collapse every 4 or 5 generations. If you dont like the nation, you get a ticket out. You decide if its of paper, or lead. Theres no room for subversive dissidents.

Wow, he said that war isn't terrible. Clearly that means that the economic system depends on war. Oh wait, it doesn't. Feel bad for your failure of reasoning. Try again if you feel like being less retarded.

>A permanent war on the eastern front will help form a sound race of men, and will prevent us from relapsing into the softness of a Europe thrown back upon itself. It should be possible for us to control this region to the east with two hundred and fifty thousand men plus a cadre of good administrators... This space in Russia must always be dominated by Germans.
Guess who said that?

How come I always know more about fascism as a centrist/liberal than these retarded fascists? Makes ya think.

>Clearly that means that the economic system depends on war.
Nice strawman, where did I say those exact words?

“As long as one race holds one race superior, and another inferior, there is war”

capitalism is a suicide cult

People still fall for retarded death cults from the 7th century

It's what you were supposed to be proving, you unbelievable moron. You said that the Nazis needed war to maintain the economy, I said that you were wrong, you responded by posting that quote. Now you're trying to squirm out of it because you've realized you can't defend the point.

Another quote that doesn't mean what you want it to mean. He said that the war would have positive effects. That doesn't mean that the Germans depended on war to maintain the economy. You're really bad at logical reasoning.

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>It's what you were supposed to be proving,
No, I didn't say anything about the economy. You are attacking a claim I did not make.

Please link to the exact post where I said "The Germans needed war to maintain the economy."

I will wait.

>He said that the war would have positive effects
And that it would be permanent.

>That doesn't mean that the Germans depended on war to maintain the economy.
Again, you're attacking a strawman. I said nothing about economy. Work on your reading comprehension, sport.

>Are you disputing the fact that fascism has perpetual war as a core doctrine?

It admits that war is a part of human nature and sooner or later a nation will have to defend itself against foreign aggression. Where's the issue in that?

You started the argument with this point lol
>Fascism requires perpetual war to the point where it becomes unsustainable
>Nice strawman, where did I say those exact words?

That says nothing about the economy. Can you read? It says fascism requires perpetual war to function as an ideology. Nothing about economics mentioned.

Work on the reading comprehension.

Not everyone can be as enlightened and rational as me.

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>I-I didn't say anything about the economy...

Hmm... So when you said that fascism requires perpetual war, you were actually suggesting that fascists think that it doesn't count as fascism unless you are constantly at war. Sorry for not understanding you, but normal people have trouble stooping to such intense retardation. So I'm going to rock your world now and inform you that unending warfare is not a component of fascism. At all.

>leaf understanding of political ideologies

Well when you’re facing communists you only have one choice.

>"The soil on which we now live was not a gift bestowed by Heaven on our forefathers. But they had to conquer it by risking their lives. So also in the future our people will not obtain territory, and therewith the means of existence, as a favour from any other people, but will have to win it by the power of a triumphant sword."

>"Thus I used to think it an ill-deserved stroke of bad luck that I had arrived too late on this terrestrial globe, and I felt chagrined at the idea that my life would have to run its course along peaceful and orderly lines. As a boy I was anything but a pacifist and all attempts to make me so turned out futile."

The fact that everybody is assuming that this is what you meant is because what you actually meant was so stupid that normal people never even think that anyone could possibly mean that.

>>I-I didn't say anything about the economy...
I did not. You read something into my post that was not there. That is your fault entirely.

>that unending warfare is not a component of fascism.
Oh, so Hitler and Mussolini were not real fascists? Fascism has never been tried, is what you are saying?

>obtaining lebensraum and regaining German glory means perpetual war without any period of peace
Besides an earlier quote you posted discounted the ideal of permanent peace not peace altogether. Even Mussolini stated that while going to war is good it should be intermittent. This is essentially the doctrine of any superpower. Hell America is more violent since its almost constantly at war.

What's the issue in any of this? Our nations were founded upon conquering and we now live in the aftermath of what they achieved. And should a day come when the territory we have isn't enough to sustain our nation then we will have to obtain more territory or else perish.

Explain then.

Going to war does not mean that you want to be at war forever for no reason.

They were but they never wanted constant war. Hitler was willing to make peace with the Brits and only wanted to completely conquer Russia which is why he got rid of Poland as a buffer state

What? Even if you meant that about the ideology it is still doesnt fucking make any sense. Actually, no, better tell me what ideology doesnt do wars, lets go with that. Assuming you dont know that wars are a cultural phenomenon happening in every unique culture, with Germany being no exception, I m interested to hear an answer to that question, lets forget about the economy.

Explain what? The statement that war makes good men and that Russia could easily be taken over? It's self-explanatory. It does not mean that Hitler wanted to host the Hunger Games in Stalingrad.

Hitlers hatred for Communism. It was the one thing he wanted to see destroyed forever. Which is why he specifies the Eastern front specifically. You taking his words at face value without looking at actions is dumb.

>inverts hungry hammer
>fucks up virgin windmill
Want to know how I know you're a HEEB CIRCLE?

Explain the "permanent war" section of the quote.

The word is perpetual as in constant not permanent. Obviously if Hitler could destroy Russia he would. As mentioned Hitler had no extreme enmity against the Brits and offered them peace many times.

Are you actually trying to suggest that Hitler wanted to force a bunch of people to fight arbitrary wars amongst themselves for as long as possible? That, upon conquering Russia, the Nazis would deliberately create a civil war just so as to keep fighting?

How many chromosomes do you have?

And why would Hitler want permanent war? It is necessary for fascism to function without devouring itself.

As I said intermittent. This doctrine does nothing more than acknowledge the necessary geopolitics of any superpower. Fight for a while. Win. Have a period of peace for rebuilding and then fight again. Brits did it America does it as do most empires. Hitler wasn't some lunatic who would let Russia go after conquering it to repeat the war for no reason.

>fascism needs war to avoid devouring itself
>source: Hitler said that war's OK a few times

Hmm, I don't think that's it.

>Before its consuming fire this
so-called humanitarianism, which connotes only a mixture of fatuous
timidity and self-conceit, will melt away as under the March sunshine.
Man must become great through perpetual struggle. In perpetual peace his
greatness must decline.

> Suicide cult.

LMAO.

There's nothing suicidal about proper Nationalism and Libertarianism done right together.

It's a nation state that seeks to protect its own interests and people's rights and well being.

By perpetual he means cyclical. Good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men. It does not mean that people should try to go to war when there isn't a need to.

>>By perpetual he means cyclical.
Perpetual does not mean the same thing as cyclical. At all. A perpetual state never changes by definition.

Perpetual does not mean constant.

You've reduced the discussion down to semantics because you're trying to cherrypick quotes, desperately searching for anything that affirms your completely absurd belief. National Socialism is not about going to war. It's a system of economic and social reform.

>National Socialism is not about going to war. It's a system of economic and social reform.
The semantics matter because National Socialism was defined largely by one person (unless you want to defend Strasser), so the words he used necessarily semantically entail what the doctrine of National Socialism is.

Btw
>per·pet·u·al
>/pərˈpeCH(o͞o)əl/
>adjective: perpetual
>never ending or changing.
never changing = constant.

A man being an authority on National Socialism does not mean that your erroneous interpretations of his statements are absolute, all-encompassing laws.

>Fascism requires perpetual war
Prove it.

My interpretations don't seem too erroneous given that he used "perpetual struggle" and "permanent war" as ideals to strive for in those two seperate quotes.

Go back to r/JordanPeterson and watching Dave Rubin you absolute nigger of a faggot

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Why the meme that germans fight alone still in charge? Half of Europe supports Germany, also Japanese and even arabs.
Hungary, Romania, Italy, Finland - all they were in axis

Finland wasn't in Axis though and Mannerheim and Hitler had quite the falling out.

No, he said that they would have beneficial effects upon "man". You're simply reading what you want from it.

No, he specifically said "a permanent war on the eastern front will help form a sound race of men", not merely that a war would be beneficial.

And what he means is that war will help people become strong. He does not mean "let's all go to war for no reason". How the FUCK are we still talking about this?

No, he literally means permanent war in the east as a means of eugenics. It says it right in the quote. He says it right there "permanent war on the eastern front will help form a sound race of men"

>How the FUCK are we still talking about this?
Because you are misrepresenting the quote for whatever reason.

You're deliberately taking a ridiculous interpretation of the quote solely and exclusively because you don't want to admit that you're wrong. His meaning was obviously not that he wanted to take control of Russia and then implement arbitrary civil wars for the sake of natural selection. The fact that you genuinely think he meant to do so is firm proof that you have a very bad case of autism and/or down syndrome.

I'm leaving. I'm not your preschool teacher. Everyone else already vacated the thread because they realized that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>His meaning was obviously not that he wanted to take control of Russia and then implement arbitrary civil wars for the sake of natural selection.
No, that's not what I said at all. No "civil wars" about it, there would simply be a front with the remnants of slavic population of which Wehrbauern would act in a state of permanent war with.

Glad you've conceded you're wrong.