Jow Forums chooses to repel Net Neutrality

your post is proof you have no idea what you're talking about.

Are you really suggesting that ISPs should be required to allow 1 or 2 corporations to choke out all the available bandwidth on the entire planet???

Netflix would LOVE to occupy 99% of all the available bandwidth without being required to 'pay a fee'.

Stop being gay and listen to people for a change, not everyone you encounter on Facebook is a retard.

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pol bough the austroturf on NN, hook line and sinker

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If ISPs can't deliver the speed they promise that's on them.

Nice try, except the NN people are the same ones advocating youtube censor opinions they don't like.

so this, which affects everyone, is a win for socialists who are openly advocating against free speech for everyone to see?

>against
for it.

Net neutrality was around for all of 5 fucking years and it was started by Obama, as a rule, anything he is for you should be against because it has some jewy angle attached to it.

bet its the same potato nigger from the abortion post

yes and if we had net neutrality, it would automatically make youtube less leftist as well as twitter less bias against conservatives and not ban them? fuck off retard. also why aren't we paying extra fees like all the posts about once net neutrality would be gone, we'd all get fees for visiting each site? net neutrality was cancer. it was a push for more GOVERNMENT control. look at the fcc is controling the media on TV and radio. now people don't give a fuck about the bullshit controlled media on tv and radio because its fucking censored to hell. now that the internet is dominating tv/radio, the fcc wants even more power to control the internet and turn it into full crap.

It's a win for authoritarians, Left or Right

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dumbass

>In February 2004, then Federal Communications Commission Chairman Michael Powell announced a set of non-discrimination principles, which he called the principles of "Network Freedom". In a speech at the Silicon Flatirons Symposium, Powell encouraged ISPs to offer users these four freedoms:[36]

You literally don’t need the internet. It’s life, it is what you make it you weak minded cunt

it doesnt seem logical that pjw and pargeru would undermine themselves and everyone like that, so i'll have to confirm this.

xfinity.com/support/articles/data-usage-plan

imagine beeing such a corporate whiteknigt you defend having shittier service than 3rd world countries like Romania

>It's a win for authoritarians, Left or Right
And which ones are Right wing authoritarians exactly?

look around, lefty authoritarians are supported by the EU, all corporations, google, the music industry, facebook, twitter, youtube, all news media, all donors, all political candidates, china, russia, etc.

we - populists we're banned for saying we dislike immigration...

It's all controlled opposition
>youtube.com/watch?v=G35g5HQVjpU
>dailywire.com/news/18613/7-reasons-net-neutrality-idiotic-aaron-bandler
>youtube.com/watch?v=8bUuvfDmsAs
prageru.com/videos/what-net-neutrality

I'll add you to the list of morons who don't understand how bandwidth is allocated.

The reason all of us can't stream in 10000000% stunning 16k quality on the web is because there isn't enough bandwidth available to to that right? The technology isn't is the hold-up, it's the physical limitations of the current infrastructure.

Are you seriously suggesting you ISP should expand it's infrastructure 10-fold to accomodate the amount of bandwidth Netflix wants to use FOR FREE WITH NO COST AT ALL TO NETFLIX?

Ya see, the issue isn't black and white, and you've been had by the corporations who've brainwashed you with the muh-censorship meme.

Facebook, Google, Twatter, and all them SUPPORT Net Neutrality and they are the biggest censor-cucks of them all.

)) Free life advice: Stop viewing the world through binary goggles ((

The people that want to stop you from protesting
The same that wants to take your citizenship away while you are on vacation
The same once that slash taxes for the rich, while yours go up
The same that tell you they will stop road tolls and then set up more tolls.

youtube.com/watch?v=8bUuvfDmsAs
he is right tho, the only difference is that the CEO's of ISP's and companies are just as bad as authorities now. But we always knew they cooperated.

Its a another false dichotomy

The ISP want's to sell me a 5GPBS plan, if they can't deliver than you bet your ass that is on them.

Saying Netflix has to pay for Comcasts shitty line,

is like saying Tesla has to pay GM for your gasoline.

the point of NN was to hand over control of the ICANN servers to a NGO and now all the censorship of accounts is because of that move.
Also, Obama broke constitutional law by taking the leadership position of another organization (UN Security Council Chairman) in order to hand over the control of ICANN to the NGO.
Why didn't you know this?

Fuckwit

>Between 2005 and 2012, five attempts to pass bills in Congress containing net neutrality provisions failed.

I'm fine with corporations beeing allowed to break shit, then collect money to fix it

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This was before most of us realized we are being bamboozled by jews. Infowars and all the rebelmedia kikes said it was a scam. Even now I don't know what to believe but I know now those assfucks are full to the brim with paid jewish lies.

On 4/11/2019 CHN or Central Happenings Network, was terminated on YouTube with zero warning or strike
>2years of videos, 8k subs and a great following
They despise anyone who motivates and rallies the anons and Bellagio Sampler is hated amongst the Jews

They are coming for everyone
bitchute.com/video/eX8nnJFUv6Cg/

They wont stop till ALL our heroes and monuments are gone!!!
youtu.be/8ur647pvGaI

We need to protest these control freaks !!! Fuck the Jewish NWO
youtu.be/iLrcbj3Fxx4
Remember the fallen!!!!!
The battle is not over and we will win the war

because it was an FCC order.

The failed attempts, were trying strengthen it.

You clearly don't understand how the infrastrure operates.

I'll break it down so a 3 year old can understand.

Your ISP has a 2 mm sized vagina. Should they be required to accommodate a 50 meters wide Netflix COCK?

You can't force an ISP to provide more than their infrastructure can handle (without being able to charge more), it's that simple.

Trying plugging a nuclear reactor into your walloutlet sometime and see how far you get with demanding your power company 'accomodate' your innovations.

really?
>The people that want to stop you from protesting
when?
you mean government sanctioned protests? like feminist march and gender march and slutfest and bullshit like that with no significance and meaning other than virtue signaling.

Lefties now love the EU. Just because the EU gave into the progressive politics trend lefties are fucking drooling because of perceived victims and how they can attain that role by being pathetic.
Politics is never about altruism, never was. If anyone claims that then their a fucking liar.

The current establishment pro EU lefts role isn't to challenge mainstream politics or global corporations.
The left's mission is to subvert and destroy populists who reject the authoritarian laws imposed by corporations and politicians, and to help cull the people into submission.

Why do you think lefties openly support human displacement with such vigor?

The next step is demolishing the local monopolies that a few ISPs have contracted with (((the government)))
Once anyone can get into the ISP business without (((the government))) choosing who can and can't do business, those old ISPs lose dominance and die.

>I'm fine with corporations beeing allowed to break shit, then collect money to fix it
yeah, that's the false dichotomy I was talking about.
The state cooperate with corporations you fucking brainlet!

fucking state of lefties.

you stupid worthless sheep are still arguing a non-issue
THE INTERNET DOMAIN SERVERS BELONG TO A NON-GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY THAT ADOPTED THE EUROPEAN UNION'S HATE-SPEECH LAWS AND USES THEM TO SILENCE ANY DISSENTING VIEWS
stop BAA'ing about bandwidth you fucking morons

>(((Obedient sheep)))
And where do you suppose they came from? They couldn't have been paid could rhey,? That's preposterous!

>THE INTERNET DOMAIN SERVERS BELONG TO A NON-GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY THAT ADOPTED THE EUROPEAN UNION'S HATE-SPEECH LAWS AND USES THEM TO SILENCE ANY DISSENTING VIEWS
This!

I hope we can destroy the internet once and for all.

populists in many european cointries try to stop protesting.

even here. Which party is suing parody accounts?
What party is using procedures to stop competing parties?

Ya and this is all it said then

>Consumers are entitled to access the lawful Internet content of their choice.

>Consumers are entitled to run applications and services of their choice, subject to the needs of law enforcement.

>Consumers are entitled to connect their choice of legal devices that do not harm the network.

>Consumers are entitled to competition among network providers, application and service providers, and content providers.

It was after the landmark Verizon case that they ruled ISP's can pay the same amount for any bandwidth as the average joe paid for his shitty DSL line.

It turned into literally corporate welfare.

So NN is gone and is gone for years. What exactly has changed? Literally nothing in my internet, quality or price has changed.

>yeah, that's the false dichotomy I was talking about.

That is litterally what has happened and is happening.

Rural communities that had Internet has had it disconnected, only to be forced to pay to reconnect it.

>Your ISP has a 2 mm sized vagina. Should they be required to accommodate a 50 meters wide Netflix COCK?

The way user Said it would be more like The ISP saying they have a 50 meters wide cock and selling you a 2mm wide one for the same price.

>Jow Forums cheers for things that make people butthurt

Say it aint so!

It dosen't change over night.

But look at the whole country,

Several places with one ISP you now has broadband caps, connections to several services is unreliable AF.

Next level is to consolidate the market. No new players!!!

We have to have these worn out threads every once in a while so the new shills can be redpilled might as well get mad at something all over again.

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When is it gonna change? Again it's been years. You NN autists keep saying "just you wait" but the reality is nothing has changed and you fear mongered a non issue because you are a low info reactionary person. Also if you think there was a "good" outcome of NN you are another reddit faggot drinking the kool aid. The options literally were either ISPs get all the power or Youtube, Google, Netflix etc get all the power. There is no "win" there for the consumers.

It's already changing
broadbandnow.com/internet-providers-with-data-caps

and years? Trump has been president slightly north of 2 years,
He appointed Ajit who in turn spent a year implementing the repeal

when were these data caps introduced? Also as far as I know data caps were always a thing. People in rural areas here always bitch for years about their data caps.

Again when are we going to see the negative stuff? What is the timeline? There is nothing stopping ISPs today from doing those meme tier services you faggots kept whining about.

don't know about the timeframe of American ISPS but they are already testing in in Portugal

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I don't live in the united states of portugal I live in the united states of america where nothing has changed at all and nothing seems to be moving towards change. Also I googled Portugal since you only seem capable of posting screenshots and out of context links and what you just showed is not a replacement but a proposed alternative option to mobile plans.

techtimes.com/articles/216619/20171205/no-portugal-isnt-an-example-of-a-future-without-net-neutrality.htm

which is literally just giving people more options with the potential of saving money. All you pro NN people are the same, sharing half true information you yourself don't research and just hear other regurgitate.

again, you guys are not understanding how bandwidth functions.

Read the fineprint from any ISP contract, not a single one of them currently guarantees any speed they sell you, not one.

The reason all of us can't livestream movies in 4k at this very moment is because there isn't enough bandwidth to do that (not because ISP don't want us too, but because it's not possible without a massive overhaul and increase to existing infrastrure)

You don't sound like a simpleton, but it really is some basic simple concepts here are play.

This is how utility companies have always functioned -- you can't build a new 40,000 home subdivision in the middle of the desert and demand the water and power companies provide service without charging a fee to the developers for the increased infrastructure needed to serve the 160,000 new residents moving in.

It's not an increase in the monthly fee to the consumer (You and I using an ISP to watch porn and use Jow Forums), it's an increase to the developer (Netflix)

Again, basic common sense.

how's reddit, btw?

and when netflix suddenly has to pay 4x what they used to,

what happens to my netflix bill?

The NN debate is a microcosm of how stupid people are getting and how terrible debates have gotten. The ones who support it are hysterical fearmongering people who share screenshots and regurgitate shit others tell them that they themselves didn't research. Everyone else states basic facts like you and I. People keep taking hysterical emotional driven stances just because they want to seem superior to others and it's disgusting. So much disinfo gets spread this way. Also again, IMO the NN debate is one where there is no "good" side. As I said in a previous post, NN is basically are we giving ISPs more power or Silicon Valley companies like Google and Netflix more power. Both options suck for us, the consumer. In terms of "Jow Forums" politics it probably is best that ISPs have some power over silicon valley and can keep them in check somewhat but yes no one can really keep the ISPs in check so it sucks really both ways.

You stop getting netflix.

But serious answer what do you expect? Someone has to pay for the extra cost and if that is how Netflix handles it, consider not using them. I don't use Netflix but they should have a tiered system so if you are fine with 1080p streaming your price shouldn't go up. Only those who want higher quality. If they punish you all then Netflix is a shitty company.

...Netflix already does that. If you want 1280p + you have to pay more, even more for 4k.

The problem is when you don't have NN, ISPs can double and even triple dip.

>Pay for internet,
>Pay us again to use sites you actually want.
>Oh sorry even though you paid us twice it's still laggy, because the service didn't pay us. Would you like to cover their share for this month?

> there is no "good" side
Those of us able to cope with nuance and detect Appeal to Emotion are aware of this.

It's corp vs corp, it never was about muh-free speech or pay-to-play.

Actually, literally everyone, not even conservatives, wanted to repeal NN.
The only type of dissent was here on Jow Forums and yet they just went along with it and fuck everybody.

>leftists become the oppressor
>slowly start turning on each other since no boogie man exists to unite against

>salt mines
>cringe.jpg

>...Netflix already does that. If you want 1280p + you have to pay more, even more for 4k.
So they should keep doing that. Pay increases should only happen to those boomers who need muh 4 k streaming. If Netflix punishes you on the lower tier than Netflix is at fault here 100%. They want to introduce higher quality they shouldn't demonize other companies for it.

>The problem is when you don't have NN, ISPs can double and even triple dip.

No one is doing this now. Again, your meme tiered image isn't happening. Your one big Portugal example was for mobile services only and as an OPTION not a replacement. I don't know what average phone costs are in Portugal but in the US I pay $35 a month which is obscenely low and it is only low because I exploit their family plan discount. My friends not on family plans pay about $100 a month. Using your meme image, if I choose to I could pay 10 euros a month if I avoid unnecessary things and I would take that in a heart beat. That's irrelevant though because again this is just a mobile plan and an extra option. Not what people like you fear monger.

the nn thing was a great example of how all they have to do is say "obama did it" to get you verizon cucks on board.

>against NN
>you are a verizon cuck
>for NN
>you are a google cuck

Where is the win here please explain?

Perfect example of how revisionists history is so dangerous, it wasn't even Obama who started it

Regulations all caused this, there's enough of them controlling the internet. Net Neutrality is the biggest meme ever since this shit was happening before NN was a thing.

You don't have to be a Google white knight, even if you support NN.

Support NN, advocate for breaking up Google and don't use their services-

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If you support NN you indirectly support Google because you are giving them more power. How do you not understand this? Your personal beliefs are irrelevant, NN gives Google more power. Again, this is why I say anyone turning this discussion to a binary "Good or Bad" thing is incredibly misinformed.

Why do you think platforms like Netflix or FB stopped beeing pro NN after they became industry leaders?

Because NN is pro small busniess.

Once you are large enough, the extra pricing from NN is worth the ability to crunch any competition in the cradle.

>Why do you think platforms like Netflix or FB stopped beeing pro NN after they became industry leaders?
Where are you getting that they stopped supporting NN? From what I read they support it.

Zuck and FB stopped support NN as far back as 2015
>telegraph.co.uk/technology/mark-zuckerberg/11960016/Mark-Zuckerberg-net-neutrality-is-a-first-world-problem.html

Netflix said NN was unimportnat for them in 2017.
>vox.com/2017/5/31/15720268/netflix-ceo-reed-hastings-net-neutrality-open-internet

because and those point, the companies were so large NN were a non issue for them.

> Hosting a townhall Q&A session at the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Delhi earlier today, Mr Zuckerberg emphasised Facebook's support for net neutrality – the principle that all websites should be equally accessible.

>He said that Facebook supports regulation that prevents internet service providers from charging users for access to certain content, or from giving their own services an unfair advantage over rival services.

>Hastings stressed the company is still active as FCC Chairman Ajit Pai looks to repeal current net neutrality rules, which subject internet providers to utility-like regulation in order to protect the open web. They’ve done so through one of their main lobbying groups, the Internet Association. “I think Trump’s FCC is going to unwind the rules no matter what anybody says,” Hastings said.

Did you even read these articles? Both clearly say they support NN. Zuckerberg is simply saying he supports more internet for everyone and the Netflix CEO simply says he is accepting that NN is gone and not going to be at the forefront attacking it but both clearly say they support it.

Why am I reading articles that you are using to refute me that don't refute me that you aren't reading yourself? Why is this a common thread with pro NN people?

ever heard of lip-service?

While Zuckerberg was saying he supports NN, he was trying to create a walled garden of internet users for half of India.

Netflix as well, when a company says "we support x". But they are actively working again x, it's only lip service.

>“We think net neutrality is incredibly important,” Hastings cautioned, but he said it’s “not narrowly important to us because we’re big enough to get the deals we want.” The Netflix chief did not mention any of those arrangements in particular, but the company has worked with the likes of T-Mobile to exempt streaming movies and TV shows from customers’ data caps.

lip-service

You are calling it "lip service" when in reality it's them publicly stating they support it. Sorry, you can't redefine what people say just because it doesn't suite your argument. Netflix was part of a lobbying group to fight this so no, that's not "lip service". Again that was stated in your own article you did not even bother reading.

>Has, look at all the deluded npcs that believe war is gonna break soon.

We have been in a war for the past several decades.

Net Neutrality wouldnt solve this problem retard, Google and Netflix was the one spearheading that legislation.
Net Neutrality helps google it doesn’t hurt it.
They weren’t trying to make themselves less powerful.

No we aren’t. Net Neutrality is anti freedom and it’s “neutral” like the patriot act is patriotic.

It's lip service when you say you support something, but actually work against it.

Like Netflix or FB. Both companies actively work against NN.

>Definition of lip service
: an avowal of advocacy, adherence, or allegiance expressed in words but not backed by deeds

posting this over and over again the blacks are handsome myth, stop

sometimes even when you hate someone your interests allign.

SeeTrump and the TPP

>t-they dont really support it!
Delusion.

>We

it's not the war you guys make out to be unless you go fight for israel in the middle east. No one is gonna enact the "day of the rope" nor will there be any monumental coup-d'etat for the sake of the uwhite race, let alone a civil war. Your jew overlords have got both me and you under their foot.

No, net Neutrality doesn’t align with the interest of the regular man. It aligns with the interests of the monopoly tech giants that everyone knows are poison.
All these posts for NN are shills and useful idiots.

*under their thumb

>company publicly states they support something
>they are actually working against the goal, through business deals

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Netflix was part of a lobby group to fight against it.

I notice you keep strategically ignoring stuff I say that hurts your argument. When I refuted your Portugal example was when you started doing this.

fucking over ISPs, which NN does is in the interest of everyone,

you ignored Portugal by saying it dosen't count. (lul)

Now you are saying that we should take everyone at face valuye.

Breaking news!!! North Kora is a democracy,

how else can it be the democratic republic?

How many people do they have to pay them each day to shill? Like one fucking hundred grands per week for each person who churns out things that don't fit your incoherent world views? It would be more logical to believe that people are extremely gullible and prone to bite whichever bait is thrown under their nose.

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How does Portugal count tell me when it literally is not replacing anything and it is just for mobile services?

NEW THREAD: OPERATION ACCELERATE

pay for mobile service,

LOL you just have to buy access to websites peacemeal

>dosent count

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