What would you have done differently Jow Forums?

I would have made a peace agreement pulling German forced out of France in exchange for all hostilities to be ceased and for Germany to retain its borders.

You're probably right. In the End, we're all kiked, regardless of where it started. participating in random dickwaving over jewish wars is about the least intelligent thing any of us can do.

>How would you have successfully repelled the invasion?
I'm a Dutchman. If I had been put in charge of the defenses as a Dutchman, I would have taken the earliest possible opportunity to surrender to the Americans. One, because the Germans wrecked my country, and two, because by June 1944 it was merely a question of how far the Allies would get into Central Europe and how far the Soviet Union would get into Central Europe. Hitler's delusion of an Endsieg wouldn't be worth the lives of my soldiers.

But if I was a German loyal to Hitler, I would have chosen a two-tier approach. My main force would be a regular army able to do battle and slow down the Allies. My auxiliary force would be a variety of small squads with a high degree of freedom, tasked with committing acts of sabotage, scorching the earth behind enemy lines, and destroying as many supplies as possible. The latter force I would dress in civilian clothes. This would have two effects. One, it would terrify and demoralize the Allies, because every single civilian might be a German soldier ready to strike. They wouldn't dare enter any café, any brothel, any village square. This would sap their fighting spirit. And two, it would make them unnecessarily violent against normal French civilians, shooting them down whenever they encounter them cycling down a military road, inciting the French locals against the Americans, British, Canadians, et cetera.

I'd then improvise as conditions change. No need for a huge plan when every half hour there's a new breakthrough and the campaign is going to last for several months. The main guiding principle of my guerrilla forces would be to terrify the Allies and make them paranoid, and to send as many of them home in body bags as possible, since every mother who gets her son home in a box is a political blow for the Allied governments. Even so, it'd still be a lost cause due to Allied air support and a growing difference in production between the Allies and the Germans.

Essentially what the Vietnamese did

Pushed north. Land near Helsinki and Kotka. Airborne assualt near Systroyesk. Massive push through the Karelian Isthmus. Take Leningrad. To start.

This one here is speaking the truth.

They would have been really excited to nuke Berlin.

I would have printed the pictures of the future and glued them all over the bunkers.

who should have done it? belinese children soldiers? germany was already defeated.

>children soldiers
child soldiers

We’re not picking up your tea from down there

lmao based BF1942 player.

I like how the French are riding along for moral support

Exactly. But then maybe it's the benefit of hindsight. After all, every war/theater starts off with the tactics of the previous one, and then the one who adapts to new conditions first wins.

The Germans did well in the initial stages of the war because they had developed new tactics and armaments while their enemies were gearing up for a repeat of World War I. Then, by the late spring of 1940, when it turned out the Germans couldn't be brought to a standstill, the situation spiraled out of control quickly, the British bailed and the French surrendered, giving Hitler a particularly noteworthy and impressive victory within months of the war starting. But this humiliation, ironically, caused the British to develop new tactics and armaments of their own (such as advances in bombing, intelligence gathering and sabotage) that the Germans weren't counting on. By 1944, the Germans had failed to adapt to the new reality of war, and their performance on the Western Front was made worse by the fact that the German armies guarding the coastal fortifications in Normandy were made up of partial invalids from the Eastern Front, out-of-shape older men, and new/foreign conscripts.

So that's what happened during the initial stages of the landings - a demoralized German army fighting using outdated tactics and armaments and with little or no air support against a rebuilt British and Commonwealth army and a particularly well-armed American army. And so, what came to mind for me was: what if the Germans had adopted Vietcong-style tactics, or at least more general guerrilla tactics? What if they realized that war usually lasts until one side thinks it's too costly, not until one side is totally destroyed, and consequently focused on pumping up enemy casualties and disrupting their supply lines to demoralize them? Well, there you have it.

made me lol

Fond memories of that one machine gun position. Well, until that ship knocked me out with a huge fucking shell. Oh well.

use more female and minority troops

Tons of sarin gas. All of the allied soldiers would be dead and they wouldn’t dare try anything again.

The jews had a choice: let you keep the empire they bought for you to make you better hit men and leave Hitler alone, or throw you under the bus and spend you like cows and move on to their next stooges: the US.
Remember that at the time this was happening, Ford was red pilling the American people about the Jews.
>(((oppenheimer))) made the bomb
Oh fuck no. We captured the three bombs from Germany. The forth bomb the Germans tested themselves. They Germans didn't have a way to deliver such a large bomb - that's why we didn't get nuked.
(((Oppenheimer))) was a traitor and spy for Stalin. No fucking way was he going to build a bomb for the US.

It's actually the other way around, the French are riding along because they need morale support. Not a joke, that's why they came, to be the "first on shore" in retaking their country, even though all the heavy lifting was to be done by other countries. Basically the idea was to promote to the French people that the 'French Army in Exile' had returned to liberate them from the germans.

Maybe you don't understand the origins of WW 2.
The brits declared war on Germany. The Brits wanted the war.

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Luftwaffe kamikaze attacks on the beaches

The reason why the Germans didn't use gas in military situations is that it would have been an escalation of violence which was unnecessary in the first two years of the war (since they were winning using conventional means), and counterproductive in the later years of the war (because the Allies, with their air support, might then take the logical next step and start gassing German cities).

>What would you have done militarily different?
Consider both Rommel's and Hitler's defensive options.
>create three defensive lines on the french coasts.
>Have a 50-50 composition of crack and fresh panzer units interspersed along the coastline (the first defensive line).
>Have another 50-50 composition of crack and fresh panzer and panzergrenadier units.
>Have the third line be where the regular infantry would make a defensive line that is a "light" version of the Siegfried line.
>Have a series rally points behind the third line parallel to it for when shit goes south.
The first line panzers are for blunting the early landings and extending the ammunition of the MG bunkers.

Second line is for reinforcement of the first line if ever the first line panzer and infantry units are getting overwhelmed. Would mostly consist of hardpoints/line of bunkers with mortars and light artillery pieces as well as AA. This is also where the Panzer and infantry units will stage their counterattacks when the flanks of the first defensive lines are threatened by allied units that made it through the first line of defense on other parts of the coast.

Third line is where the long range artillery, AAA, ammunition resupply, C&C, field hospital, and regular infantry staging points would be held. Regular infantry would be patrolling the area between the second and third defensive lines to remove OSSprotoglowniggers as well as jewdburghniggers, pathfinders, paras, and partisanfucks/resistanceniggers.

The rally points running parallel behind the third defensive line serves as a emergency fallback point when the prior three defensive lines fall. This where every AAA, panzer, and infantry unit has to hold until the last possible second that another three defensive lines plus rally points have been made. At the moment that the signal is given to fuck off back to rally points, Artillery immediately moves back further inland to cover for the retreat of the rearguard forces.

I would have sent the elites that backed hitler in the first wave

Get on the floor and cry to myself while i hear Tom hanks shooting all of the other soldiers

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Do you also remember all those times that one player would use a bomber to sink their own team's ships because it was more fun than fighting the enemy? lulz

Seize the UK, Iceland, and Greenland, leaving continental Europe for the Nazis.

After that, invade Canada. After that, Mexico (purging any

>French: 177 soldiers protected by 29,000 brits.
KEK! That makes the whole thing "legit".
Patton killed 1,300 Frenchmen in Operation Torch. Fact is, the French threw in with Hitler. Only the French (((communist))) were against the Germans

They didn’t have sarin gas. Gas masks can be made available to the public.

>Basically the idea was to promote to the French people that the 'French Army in Exile' had returned to liberate them from the germans.
The liberation of Paris was a real shitshow for that reason. The Germans mostly withdrew or surrendered voluntarily, but then the Allies got into an argument about how the city should be liberated. De Gaulle wanted a French army to enter Paris first, and the others demanded that it should be a white French army. But there were no white French units in the area - the only fully white unit was in North Africa, if I remember correctly - so they had to switch a bunch of soldiers around to get one disjointed, mostly white, partially North African unit which could enter Paris.

The beach landings of Okinawa were bigger in scale tho. How come no one talks about that?

The Germans didn't use gas because it was against the Geneva conventions, which the Germans followed.
Sort of like bombing civilians is a war crime too... but the brits had no problem with bombing German babies in their cribs at night.

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Remind them they are fighting for the wrong side

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The sound of the ship's alarms will never get old.

By early 1945 things couldn’t have gotten worse for the Germans. A V2 filled with sarin, tabun etc. right on the Allied lines would be one final fuck you.

how does zwoundvierzig rhyme with blue

You have to read it in english
blue -> forty-two

>How come no one talks about that?
Methinks not a lot of jewlywood propaganda.

You hafta remember, the lol-o-caust habbened inna europe, and heebs only care about their own own victim points. Hence why WWII in the west is heavily shilled while the pacific meatgrinder, that should not have happened, only gets a "meh".

This. Then we can blame the whole ordeal on British betrayal and use the victim card to justify further destroying them.

I wouldn't have been retarded enough to fall for the Calais trick in the first place considering you can literally see England from there so any invasion fleet would have been spotted from 21 miles away and I would have trusted Fieldmarshall Rommels analysis that Normandy was the likely landing point and should place the French force of 1.5mn soldiers along the Normandy coast and massive effort was needed to build up coastal defences pic related an unimpressed Rommel inspecting the partially built Atlantic wall. I bet thats what all his generals said or were thinking "Jesus christ he's an idiot, we can see England from Calais. There's no chance in hell the allies are invading there"

Hitler in his drug addled and exhausted delirium was an idiot in the final 18 months of the war.
Beating back D-Day(which they could easily have done if troops were in place and actually still could in the first 10 hours of the invasion with the right orders) would have delayed defeat by at least 5 years and probably could force an attrition based ceasefire on the Russian onslaught in the east and then force one with the UK and US who would then just focus on Japan.
Cold War between Third Reich vs USSR vs UK-US alliance?
That would have been kino.

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>the Geneva conventions, which the Germans followed
The Germans didn't follow the Geneva Convention that existed at the time. For instance, taking care of all wounded or sick combatants under your jurisdiction regardless of their origin is an obligation under the Geneva Convention at the time, but in the case of wounded Soviet soldiers or whenever it was impractical, the Germans certainly did not do this. They allowed 3,500,000 wounded, sick or starving Soviet soldiers to die in their captivity, and this was a matter of policy.

>By early 1945 things couldn’t have gotten worse for the Germans.
Maybe not for the Nazis, but for the Germans, it could have gotten much worse. I think if they'd killed 50,000 Allied soldiers with gas in February 1945, the Allies may have retaliated a lot more against German civilians than they actually did. Dresden would have looked like a mercy kill compared to that

I heard Rommel wanted to put tanks on the beach.

Unite with Stalin against the Jew
Consolidate after the conquest of France
More resources to deuterium mining for my nukes

You got a problem with isreal keep talking shit and we gonna do to you what we did to the Germans

Intersperse them with infantry and static defense, yes.

By early 1945 every single German city of any significance was severly damaged, some were completely fucked like as you say, Dresden.

Uncle Adi and the high command knew their time was up and they wanted to punish the Allies as much as they could for each step they took inside Germany.

Yeah, Rundstedt (who was his superior) disagreed.

>Unite with Stalin against the Jew
Stalin was a crypto jew.

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One glaring flaw is that German soldiers can't hide within the French populace. They'd be found out immediately.

>4 million Commies surrendered and Germany, which was starving because of allied bombing, couldn't feed them so the Germans didn't follow the GC
Seriously? Are you so spoiled that you think that food is always available?

Many French sided with Germany, especially women. Thousands of French women had German boyfriends and children. French farmers also made a lot of business supplying the Wehrmacht.

All this about the French begging for Eisenhower to save them is historical revionism at best.

>battle of smolensk
>d-day
Both really big German losses in WW2 were based on deception. These were lost before they began. These landings were eminently defeatable but the Enigma system being broken by the Allies made sure that the Germans could be confused into massing troops and supplies elsewhere. The way to beat this would have been to bomb London into rubble at the beginning of the war. No London, no Allied resistance. Plus Hitler would have actually bombed the "center of world Jewry" while he was at it.

The way to have beaten Smolensk was just to withdraw and let the Russians freeze while the Germans take the Caucasus oil fields. Easy! However, this battle was also a ruse.

Without those two mistakes, Nazi Germany would have won. There are others that could have been fixed, but those are the main ones.

>place the French force of 1.5mn soldiers along the Normandy coast
Which French force? Vichy France was only allowed about 100,000 soldiers and 70,000 paramilitaries in Europe under the armistice agreement, and even that army was disbanded in late 1942. They had the Milice, I suppose, but the Milice had only about 30,000 members at its peak, and they were fighting a losing fight against the Maquis.

>Beating back D-Day(which they could easily have done if troops were in place and actually still could in the first 10 hours of the invasion with the right orders)
>if troops were in place
Where do you suppose they should have gotten those troops? Pull even more of them back from the Eastern Front, two weeks before Operation Bagration kicked into action? Or from French cities, where they were struggling along with the collaborators to maintain order in the face of widespread subversion?

>would have delayed defeat by at least 5 years and probably could force an attrition based ceasefire on the Russian onslaught in the east and then force one with the UK and US who would then just focus on Japan.
None of this is remotely realistic. The German army had less than two years to live even if there had been no D-Day. The Soviet Union had already pushed the Germans back to the Baltic and Belarus, and the Soviet Union now not only outnumbered but even outgunned the Germans on the Eastern Front (so a meat grinder wasn't realistic). The British and the Americans were utterly dedicated to destroying the Germans first, and after Hitler's previous betrayals no longer entertained any hope of a ceasefire or armistice of any kind.

We're talking about orders of magnitude here. The bombing of Dresden killed tens of thousands of civilians - but aerial gas attacks would have killed millions across Germany.

I don’t think its controversial to say the Wehrmacht couldn’t care less about Russian prisoners. They took thousands of Western prisoners as well and whilst conditions were tough, there was not the same casualty rate.

Give up the beach, incur fewer casualties, attack the enemy in their homes while they celebrate the false victory.

are you stupid? Roths and the old hag are you masters.
Enjoy Londinistan you Persian.

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Allahu akbar boats.
Sink tanks or concrete so boats cant land smoothly forcing soldiers to swim
Basically terraform the beach so it sucks more for them
Considering the size of the invasion fleet I dont think anything anybody would do would matter

>British: traitors to humanity and servant of the Jews.

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Not if they keep their mouths shut. I'm not talking about blending in with a crowd or anything. And even if the local population tried to tell the Americans/British who the Germans were, all that would do is result in a whole heap of false positives (anyone who's not known in the village is a potential German, after all, even if he speaks French).

Actually, the Germans succeeded in doing something like that (a paranoia trap) when they invaded this country in 1940. Within hours of the invasion, rumors were spreading around the Dutch army that German soldiers and traitors were coming dressed as Dutch officers to command the Dutch soldiers to do stupid stuff or leave their positions. These rumors were fed by the fact that it did actually happen on some occasions - one Dutch officer holding a strategic position was telephoned in the early morning by someone claiming to be a superior officer, and told to go to a particular address to await further instructions. He took his soldiers and went to the village where this address was supposed to be, only to find that the whole street did not exist. Other units found their telephone lines cut when they tried to call for help, which they blamed on collaborators, causing them to go on a witch hunt while the Germans advanced

FPBP

Rommel wanted construction of the wall and a build up of mines,tank traps and other obstacles to be a priority in February of 1944 and gave a detailed report with his analysis that Normandy was the allied landing site for the expected invasion. It wasn't until the Operation Fortitude deception by British intelligence and SAS units that he for a time changed his mind along with Rundstedt that Calais might actually be the target.Pic related sketch Rommel came up with of "anti paratrooper obstacles".
For the first 10 hours of the invasion. Only 11,000 of the 52,000 garrison in Normandy were in combat due to lack of orders. No one at OKW dared wake Hitler from his sleep as the paratroopers began dropping en masse just as Hitler went to bed. So for 10 hours 1mn+ German troops in Calais region received zero orders to move and garbled comms on the ground made it seem like it was just a small paratroop diversion from the real invasion so the 40,000 garrison troops stayed on standby. By the time it was clear something big was happening, it was hours too late.

If anything it showed the flaw in letting the leader of a country decide every action of the military. Had the commanders in Calais been allowed to act with initiative of their own free will. The allies would have quickly been BTFO. If a single bridge had been retaken from the paratroopers, it was game over. if someone had woke Hitler up in Berlin. It was game over. If the garrison was fully mobilised. It would have delayed the beachheads significantly and ultimately lead to game over for the invasion attempt. Fun fact: The garrison was only 25% German.The rest were Osttruppen volunteers taken from Soviet prisoners purely C-tier infantry there to man emplacements they had little to no armour or motorised support. Many of the bunkers didn't even have much ammo.

By the time the Calais forces began moving it was far too late. The beachheads were linked and tanks and troops were landing in unending numbers.

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The Germans were not sure the invasion would be coming from, but assuming that they would, then probably dynamiting the whole beach right in the middle between the water, and the bunkers to allow for the troops to disembark and advance, and once that was done, and there were plenty of troops everywhere, blow it all up.

When the germans used a bunch of american uniforms to infiltrated during the battle of the bulge, the americans started asking suspected guys to do things like name their state capital. problem is, lots of americans were too stupid to know the right answers.

>Soviet Union now not only outnumbered but even outgunned the Germans on the Eastern Front
No supplies though, they would have starved and had to fall back to Siberia. Especially with no oil from the Caucasus.

The Wehrmacht cared more about "the Russians" than the Jewish Bolsheviks did. They had no regard for the filthy goyim at all. To them, the war was win/win.
They Soviet Goys were shot if they retreated. They'd rather be captured than retreat and face the Soviet jews.
No, it's not reasonable to call the Germans war criminals because they couldn't feed the hoards of Russians who were surrendering.

I would've turned around with my troops to go looting and yeet the fuck off to Spain or Switzerland. Germans weren't beating the Soviets so long as they are allied supplied.

I mean the German armies in France that had been there for years. They were in Calais. All they had in Normandy were subpar troops made up of Soviet volunteers,Western PoW's,wounded men,old men,conscripts and medically unfit rejects.

Thats what I meant by French force.

The Germans should've had much more troops defending the entire coast. They should've had a small but significant amount elite units of infantry, panzer, luftwaffe and others stay to defend the coastline instead of going to fight in Russia.
They were overwhelmed and unprepared for the attack, even though they knew it was coming. They were spread too thin. If the beach head had never been established, the war would've never restarted on the western front.
They fought well though.

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>The Germans should've had much more troops defending
Wow. We got us a military GENIUS in our ranks.

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Better start practicing yogic levitation Otto, because we haven't got any fucking planes.

i agree ,
problam was germanys lack of purpose build strategic bombers.
hitler could have authorised the use of gas to bumb london the population of london would have been reduced in a hiroshima like strike.
leading to surrender but hitler did not want to be so cruel to the english

They had two sites but they were tricked into thinking Normandy would be a distraction and Calais the real landing.
Hitler refused to spread his forces and gambled that Calais was the best site to put their regular German forces as Calais is only 21 miles from England so its the shortest route for resupply and Calais is a large port which is sound logic to be fair.

Operation Fortitude by the UK played a key role in the deception though so it must have seemed very legitimate to convince nearly every German senior leader and commander. I just can't grasp how they could believe it. It's mindboggling, if anything them saying in fake communications that Calais is the target makes it more likely that Normandy is the real target. Then again German intelligence operations was heavily compromised for years by both British agents,turncoat traitors(Lucy spy ring google it) and Soviet spies so that probably played a big part in the deception.

If you aren't aware Calais is more than 150 miles away from Normandy so for those huge numbers of troops and vehicles to get there in time, the order would have needed to be given to move at the very latest by 3am on 6th June. 3 hours before the troop landings and beach bombardment began. Their orders didn't arrive till 10am.
The distance from Normandy to Portsmouth is a little over 100 miles. Ships went first at a slow speed on 3rd June with expected landings on the 5th and obviously planes began the journey at around 11pm on 5th June with the first landings happening at 12:15am when British paratroopers were the first to land and suffered the 1st allied death of the campaign during a glider impact near Pegasus Bridge which killed a CO of a section. US paratroopers landed on the ground in their respective area to the west less than 2 minutes later.
Both allied contingents were scattered in the completely wrong target zones due to conditions which almost doomed the invasion before it even started.

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>hitler did not want to be so cruel to the english
He thought they were fellow Aryans! The British and the Soviets were both run by Jews, whether it was Rothschild or Dzugashvili.

exactly we should have known about the eternal anglo and his ways and just wiped them out

>its an anglo v anglo shitposting thread
love it

>You are overseeing the defense of the beaches assaulted on D-Day. How would you have successfully repelled the invasion? What would you have done militarily different?

I would have put those big metal "X" crosses (that are like 6 feet tall) onto ALL beaches in France and Germany. I would also mine the fuck out of ever single beach under my control.

I would also have my top Nazi scientists give me some plutonium and would salt the proverbial earth (around the borders) so that the enemy soldiers who invade will get acute radiation poisoning. I will then drop leaflets onto the enemy camps explaining what plutonium is and how it will kill them if they invade Germany.

I would then bring the offensive to the enemy and force them to expend resources such that any invasion of German soil will be futile. I'm sure with just a few intelligent soldiers, they can cause chaos in the homelands of our enemies.

And for fuck's sake..I would make friends with Vlad until such a time that I can slit his throat (after the war with the U.S. and England and the rest of these assholes is over).

In fact, I'd send the German equivalent of the Navy Seals to Russia to take out Lenin or Stalin or whoever after the fighting on the western front stops.

Did I mention that I would not piss off the Soviets for anything? I'd propose Lenin or Stalin or whoever give me their first born son in exchange for a fake German son of mine. This way we have each others family members hostage and that will ensure peace.

>"Greatest battle in WW2" -Western narrative
>156,000 men,6000 ships and 12000 aircraft vs 12,000 men(technically 52,000 but the other 40,000 didn't get orders),11 patrol boats and a hundred undermanned coastal guns with very little ammo.
>Still suffer 14000 casualties and lose hundreds of vehicles and dozens of vessels on first day against 12,000 men most of who weren't actually German while 40,000 other garrison troops just do nothing.
>completely forgetting the titanic conflict on the eastern front that has been waged across a front nearly 3000 miles long between armies of millions(on both sides) of men and hundreds of thousands of air and ground vehicles(both sides) since 1941 even with the catastrophic defeats of the Germany army in 1942 and 1943 their sheer tenacity,skill and willpower ensured the retreat was extremely slow inflicting 20 dead Russians for every dead German.

Typical (((Allied))) bullshit. Can't admit they were small time players in the European war which was all about Germany vs Russia. National Socialism vs (((Communism))). Ethno Nationalism vs (((Globalism))).

Many such cases. SAD!
lmao

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If I lead the offensive we would've had 0 casualties. Have the women in the military lead the charge.
youtube.com/watch?v=g82FY6R22OM

Place panzer units closer to landing sites

Ouch

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That was the thing... they thought Normandy was a fake out and saved the Armor to deploy to Calais.

Fuck the commie bastards. They were sent like cannon fodder into German machine guns because the (((Bolsheviks ))) had no idea how to fight a war and they just murdered all the Russian Generals.
The Russians surrendered in droves, because the jews would shoot them if they retreated.

Turn the ships back. Germans already lost the war. Russians would just liberate France as well.

The real war was already over at this time.

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Postponed invasion and redirected all allied forces to Pacific to give the True Europeans time to defeat the Commie Nigger Jewry

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Holyshit retards... The Free French Forces and French army invaded through the South With Operation Dragoon and served in the Italian campaign as well. The Normandy landing was a purely anglo operation by design which made DeGaulle quite furious as it was sign the anglos intended to regent France after the liberation and he was right about their intentions although he and the popular insurrection all over France against the Germans saved France from another kind of occupation. The only French that served in Overlord were French soldiers who had stayed in Britain after the 1940 debacle and were trained into a SAS unit which nowadays is the 1st Marine Infantry Parachute Regiment.

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Thanks for clearing the US of most of that stupid shit show to make the world safe for jewish degeneracy.

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>brits successfully breaking through
Says alot really...

>muh deGaul!
Yes, that asshole who invited the shitskinned mudslimes to France.
not really what you wanted...

Exactly why I just showed the stats, which are likely exaggerated too.
It could've been defended so easily is my point.