Capitalism alternatives

it can, it just needs a true free market not the restricted governed monopoly shit we have today around the world

can you explain "true free market" a little bit more

Corporatism.

a true free market is market where the value of product is determined by how much value ppl give it
it doesnt happen now because of monopolies and because of government interventions

> talking with the Jew about money
I would be very careful about that.

Without the fiat banking system it would be a commodity banking system. All notes would be backed by a commodity like gold, silver, wheat, etc. that would have their own values which are determined by their efficacy as a currency. Gold has historically been the best currency due to it more than satisfying the needs of a currency- namely fractionability, transportability, universality of value, and defense from counterfeit
There would still be banking, but it must be completely private banking with no connection at all to any State structure. Banks would be held to the same standards as any universally exchangable goods storage facilities, like the barley barns of the early 1900s. This means there can be no fractional reserve banking or fiat currencies.

You should think about distributism, it is an economic idea that the state must conquer resources and then distribute them to the poor. This was tried on a mass scale with land in the U.S. which was given out for free to the urban poor whereupon we ran out of poor people to give land to and gave it to immigrants. I think it holds a lot of promise.

A true free market is one that is completely disconnected from government such that there isn't a single even tangential influence coming from government action. Effectively this means there can be no non-voluntary government (a State), as the involuntary State is in fact a restriction upon the marketplace of governance. A true free market is ancap, and modern economic understanding has shown that the industries which the State currently enforces itself over can be handled better via the decentralized channels of the market.

The third position.

Ok, so maybe the politics are not involved anymore, but the banks are even more?

I disagree with the idea that a free market is free from governmental influence. Governments have existed for as long as economies existed and the two always affected each other and methods. I think a free market is just a market where the government does not have unprecedented or undue influence.

Without a State structure to utilize to centralize their power, banks have no parasitic influence. They are beholden to all the property laws that any universally exchangable goods holder are held to. This means they have no fiat currency enforcement powers and fractional reserve banking is rightfully classified as fraudulent lending. Because they have none of these powers they cannot centralize the market as they have today through their plutocratic channels. They can't "make money" like they do now, and instead they are reduced to their proper role as storage facilities. There would still be investment banks and the like, but they would have to exist specifically by the consent of those who store their money with them, as they cannot invest using fractional reserve generated wealth.

you don't have inflation and debt

At one time, the money you earned had value for the banking system. Now, your money has 0 value.

So, with a not evil capitalism, people should be able to live without selling its life to the rat race. That's why then, banking system moved to fiat, in order to literally controlling the amount of inflation and debt of the nations. The main goal is ensure 90% people need to work forever, will be poor forever, will depend of the system forever.

Also, if you don't have FIAT + use cryptocurrency, you have something safe, traceable, and with 0 cost makes accounting and transparency so easy.
Taxes are theft. But inflation and debt, allow them to control the pace of the game and create debt hole nations.

A government is not the same thing as a State. A government is merely the structure in place to organize society. If this structure is voluntary then there is no issue, as people can select for the government that interfaces with the market in such a way that they are satisfied. The problem comes about when the government is forced upon people and is monopolized over a given region, which is what I mean by State. This makes it such that there is a single point of failure for corruption to take place and no recourse for those afflicted by this corrupted government.
A free market is one that includes government as something which can be selected for as one selects for their bread. If you have an aggression backed monopoly over the provision of governance over a particular region then that particular region does not have a free market. At best it has a mostly free market

Also I noticed that I formulated my first post poorly. A free market can be influenced by governments and still be free so long as those governments cannot force themselves upon the market. State influence is what has to be avoided in order to have a free market. If I'm part of White People Governance™ and that includes provisions against the purchase of methamphetamine then the market has been influenced, but I'm the one who chose to be part of White People Governance™ and I can choose another structure if I so desire.

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Fascism

FPBP

IT was fine. It just got diversified by too many shitskins and jews to ever flourish. As soon as it did vultures arrived.

The problem with any system is its constituents, not its policies. Capitalism is by far the best, however. We just have too many useless eaters all looking for a piece without production.

Too many niggers, jews, women and effeminate men allowed to larp as equals today.