Chips that aren't compromised

With this alliance of government and tech to surveil citizens, and stifle free speech...

How do we get around the backdoors built into computer hardware? I'm not a tech guy... My knowledge of this subject is extremely limited. But I hate the idea that any computer you buy comes already compromised (or vulnerable to compromise) at the level of its processor and BIOS firmware. How about foreign made chips like pic related? And does anybody have experience with using liber-boot? Is it difficult to install and use?

If you were going to build a computer from scratch (to be as secure as possible), how would you do it?

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This probably should be on Jow Forums
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>MIPS
Based and RISC pilled

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Fuck your YouTube link and fuck you.
There's an entire board for tech stuff.

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You're gonna have to assume anything made in China or Israel is fucked. Run Linux on a PS3 or some shit if you're that worried about glowniggers reading what you post to this Mongolian horse racing forum.

anything made in china is impervious to western spys, and vice versa

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How about we just have the people who did this killed?

Whoa

Also like is it bigoted if you’re right handed?
Shiiiit

When I say that I’m right and you’re wrong, that is Nazi stuff isn’t it?
Goddamnit these racists...

pre 2008 Intel or pre 2012 AMD

You're 100% Reich about those Natzi's

Nazi's*

Idiots think that IME Ξ PSP

The only post on Jow Forums this isnt shit.... Thanks op.

>T43 made mid to early 2007 or before.
>Pull out the wlan card in it and the hard drive.
>Upgrade the RAM
>Run off live version of Linux
>For internet use plug and play wireless adapters that you only purchase with cash, preferably second hand. Rotate these monthly
>Any data kept should be encrypted, and kept on a USB stick which you store in your bum.
Or don't, I'm not your supervisor.

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What about this?
fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom

This seems promising, but personally, I'm going with all new chips are pozzed. There's no real way around it. Day zero showed this, the Samsung TV shit, etc. but it's more than that. Anything made by the chinks is 100 percent compromised, and it's the reason hauwei got blacklisted.
I'm going to read more on this, though. I was unaware it existed.

This is interesting. I've been reading through it, and I *think* these are using older chipsets. The laptop seems to be. So these people appear to be on their shit.

Power Mac G5

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>Anything made by the chinks is 100 percent compromised, and it's the reason hauwei got blacklisted.

But its compromised by the chinks (not the US government). The chinks don't give a shit about persecuting the enemies of Globohomo Inc.

The IBM John Titor came back in time for. Because it was the last computer made without backdoors.

>The Chinese are the enemy of the US government, because anything they compromise would be at infrastructure level, not individual
>At this moment, the US government is more the enemy of the common man than the entirety of the militarized Chinese nation and their various intel groups
>until such time, if ever, that the Chinese commit to open warfare in CONUS, they pose zero threat to US citizens domestically. Whereas the danger from our own totalitarian regime is real, omnipresent, and very, very personal.
bruh. I mean I guess I knew this, but it never really hit me until you put it in this way. I need to lay down. Fuck.

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Basically every single computer in the world uses a Chinese hardware and American software. There is nowhere to run, your only option is to not use computers, and as the economy becomes more technologically developed, will become nearly impossible to avoid using.

I don't care about the Chinese spying on me, what should I buy? is AMD fine?

Some cheap stuff like Raspberry Pi, I guess?

It's a mixture of the two, and that's the problem. If you don't care about the Chinese, fine. But you're still stuck with the NSA taps. The only way to avoid it is old hardware.

Sad but true...

Hell yeah, older tech is not to say it does not include back doors, but I know for a fact some big ones were only added in the last what 10-20 years? The next gen kill-switch stuff.

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>This is interesting. I've been reading through it, and I *think* these are using older chipsets. The laptop seems to be. So these people appear to be on their shit.
Indeed. The laptops are built using older chipsets that have been certified to meet a define standard of "freedom" and they are flashed with libreboot for bios

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we need an open source hardware project.

i feel like a mac would be the least compromised since apple charges $1,000.00 for a monitor stand

Those are compromised too, just the ruskies have the backdoor instead of the americans.
But no globohomo corporate entity, so I guess it's somewhat better.
And if you're thinking of starting your own company of CPU manufacturing with the intention of keeping the globohomo jews out of it:
You better have a military force comparable to the russian's, otherwise you're definitely getting suicided with two bullet shots to the back of your head.

Well the it has an IBM PowerPC processor from before they switched to Intel so its not backdoor'd. It wont run the latest MacOS but it can run linux

The new macs have hardware back doors in them from the vPRO TPM units in the Intel processors

It's actually a star of David when you do the mirror decode, but it's inside the nazi flag saying they are authoritarian Jews.

its only one of many layers of compromise. its a nsa matter to ensure legal requirements are enforced for any company

every point of entry is compromised - binary blobs, wifi, bluetooth, every piece of hardware on market, infustrial controllers, cisco, microsoft, google, social media apps admin portals, yadda, yadda

just imagine your smartphones as user interface acces to gov services

"tinker boards", you can Google it, the more obscure the better. good ones are about $250. you need to check the specifications for the CPU and cross reference with known backdoors. you can also check out the hardware list on sites like libreboot. no microcode is preferable. then after this you want to use an encrypted VM and Tails on USB stick. you might ask "well who cares about hardware backdoor if I'm just using a USB anyway". the point of no hardware backdoor is so that if someone is somehow capable of traversing from your USB to your CPU you are still "safe".

plenty of CPUs are not Chinese, not Russian. there are other manufacturers out there which are American and European.

it's not like Israel isn't a foreign government though, right

t. I know this is a honeypot but I'll still help you because I'm a nice guy

every post is legally tied to your smartphone - linkability

hint: try to find copies of evidence, digital footprints, in federal court cases

Bulldozer was the last AMD chip with no backdoor

how the fuck I'm being blocked, srsly compromised op ?

what law is being broken

theres a group lawsuit against vizio too, apparently their tvs took pictures of you and someone found out. i believe the vizio youtube tv app destroyed cable tv from 2013 to 2018.

yes, but I don't know how to make a processor in my back yard garage lab

this requires open source machine tooling & metrology, its a huge journey just to get to semiconductor fabrication.

so, instead of trying to imitate building a processor by trying to duplicate the actual wiring, you might just simplify the instruction set

Now now calm down

From reading your comment I thought you meant pictures of the TV viewer, but in a quick search I only saw this:
>Vizio used a process called automated content recognition (ACR) to collect this data from smart TVs, then transmitted the data back to home base for sales to third parties.
>Vizio used ACR to take partial screenshots to not only figure out which channel viewers were tuned to, but also to tell which DVDs, Blu-ray disks or streaming services they were watching. (It's not clear whether video games could be similarly "fingerprinted.")
>Vizio bundled that data with information about the "sex, age, income, marital status, household size, education level, home ownership, and household value," according to the FTC.

at least give me a 666 ending, leaches

everything is pozzed

Anyone?

I'm not a judge, you fucking moron

>tinker boards make their own CPUs
Since when?

>Chips that aren't compromised.
can't help you friendo. there are obvious choices but beyond that it's safe to assume at this point everything has a number of 0-day exploits that will never be fixed

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>Intel chips are comprised
>IME is a backdoor
I honestly want to know where this meme started. IME has some security flaws (but only if you can already execute code on the machine) but it has no deliberate backdoor. There are dumps of the programmable rom and the Spectre patch for the IME is freely available. The Intel x86/64 microcode is some of the most audited in the world, and much of it is freely available for you to look through if you know whay youre doing.

MOS 6502.
The original NMOS, not this CMOS WDC shit.

Also, AVR's are pretty decent.

at a certain point, you would need to examine the hardware

Bullshit, early 6502's are just as fine.
Titor only wanted it because it was a drop-in replacement for big iron mainframes that would be impossible to transport.

Which you can do just fine with a 6502
visual6502.org/images/6502/index.html
youtube.com/watch?v=fWqBmmPQP40
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No-one's making fake ceramic 6502's, you can pull them from all sorts of places, even a NES/SNES.
I know the US airforce raids old power plants and barns for vintage computer equipment that hasn't been modified in [x] years so they know it's not backdoored. You can do the same.

Discrete transistors all made before 1990 all microchips could have a spy bug on part of thier die

Angela Merkel (irgendwie irgendwo, irgendwan) has no fucking clue, and it's not the evil russians, most germans could not care less (the greatest story never told) unless they do like to be informed; wtf you hiding from, sweet angela ?

I'm going to start melting some silicium

Back to quora you go

Back to PowerPC?

Ok what if we adapted Gameboy Colors to transmit signals across longer distance

No the infrared sucks. Use Nintendo DSs with PictoChat.

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nohting is safe then including what they use and if u can hack it you can turn it into whatever you want. its no different than a computer just its under some encryption shit is what i heard

they are all computers
its all hacking

Stop buying Intel chips and buy AMD instead. Idiots will argue and say "Lol, China will just spy on you instead of Israel", but I'll let you decide which is worse.

This smells like Fucking glow nigs I’m out. Good luck

Cyrix 6x86pilled

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>tolerates self improvement general
>but no, fuck information security survivalist general
There's a precedent for this type of topic.

>Implying dwarves are not in silicon substrate

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absolutely belongs on Jow Forums...

There are interests waging a war against general purpose computation and secure communication in the hands of the public.
Check out some videos by Christopher Domas and you'll see the evidence of compromising hardware.
Also we need a whole new ecosystem,
away from the established architectures,
away from the traditional locked operating systems and systems software,
and away from end user services and social media with their current models treating users like the product in order to make money.
Whoever delivers this stands to make a lot of money, but also enemies, i.e. try selling hardened blackberry phones and see what happens.
There will be resistance and harassment for loicense.

The fact that other parties can't summon the resolve to verify or roll their own silicon is sad.
But I have hopes a new ecosystem will come about from another party rolling it out for their own security,
and then putting it on the market as a way to subsidize this endeavor.
China is showing some resolve in this regard, but I'll wait for something different.
Imagine a non-cucked linux phone on a risc-v board, securced, simplified, cryptified, customized, and used end services that are not cucked.

We can push lithography down to 7nm and clocks to 5ghz, yet for some reason we need complex architectural components (which I won't go into).... to do what? 3DVRARPorn?
A simplified and secure architecture should be even more feasibile given current technology, without making compromises to squeeze out performance (spec.ex., etc.)

>tldr RISC-V, with TempleOS burned in silicon on chip, ASCII only

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No. Jow Forums is populated by fucking retards.
They can oy tell you which ThinkPad to buy and how to install gentoo onto it.

They cant actually tell you anything insightful

this

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Mac actually didnt have TPM from 2006 onwards, but the new ones have T2 which is an apple made TPM and may or may not be comped. While one would hope they are not comped, reality is probably they are if you're of the suspicious type. I do believe most Macs that are post-2006 but pre-2016 T2 touch bar revamp, should be free of TPM.

And of course, the original cheese graters (NOT THE NEW ONE) if PowerPC version, is indeed free of comping. So despite all the shit everyone gives Apple now, once upon a time when Steve Jobs was alive they made some halfway decent shit. And for what it's worth about those old cheese graters, I know many people who are still using them just fine. That's right, those old pieces of shit just keep on trucking like you wouldnt imagine.