Russian and Poland

Can anyone explain why they "hate" each other?

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Russians hate everyone, Polish people just minding their business, but not allowing some subhumans to pick them on. In 2012 Euro soccer tournament in Poland polyak soccer fans beat the shit out of russian scum for molesting an underage polish girl.

something about selling out to the west or something but yea hooligans are out of control

because the ussr genocided them in ww2 and after

this

Polish plumbers are just the moochers of Europe, have negative contribution to anything they are a part of, but constantly bitch none the less. Its a genetic thing.

who hasnt they tried to genocide lol

>Polish plumbers are just the moochers of Europe, have negative contribution to anything they are a part of, but constantly bitch none the less. Its a genetic thing.

shut the fuck up you stupid putinbut churka mongoloid faggot.

russians are retards that have a country with the same gdp as tiny italy even though they're the largest country with an abundance of natural resources

you took map from Wiki, so just read it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland–Russia_relations

it's because Poland and Russia had a hundreds of years long struggle over control of eastern Europe and the Russia won in the end but it was close at one point, both sides are butthurt (Poland did conquer Moscow and ruled there for a year)

>Poland did conquer Moscow and ruled there for a yea

because Russia attacked first

Poland will forever be remembered as victims just like the blacks, its funny

Because poles suck the americock and russians suck themselves. Maybe you all suck the jew cock for not letting us control whole europe.

in the modern era the wests propaganda is largely to blame, seeding into the minds of the polish that all their communist era hardships were the fault of the russians rather than the soviets, despite the reality being that russians suffered at the hands of the SU multiple times more than evey other country.

Historical reasons. Back from middle ages Poland (or PLC) was a mighty kingdom, which bullied every neighboor. Russia grew into the mighty empire, but slightly later. So at start Poland was an agressor (even marshed trouh Moskow one time), then Russia start be more powerful (even participated in erasing Poland as a country). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_conflicts_involving_Poland_against_Russia
Today Russia do not care much about Poland, poland is slightly salty about being Soviet bitch for some time. I wood dascribe relations as cold.

>Implying you wouldnt kill half of your own population too, if you could.

Never seen a Russian who hates Poland
Never seen a Pole who likes Russia

>communist era hardships were the fault of the russians rather than the russians, despite the reality being that russians suffered at the hands of the russians multiple times more than evey other country.
Fixed that for you

Hehehe.

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So where do Ukraine fit into this

>which bullied every neighboor.
that's incorrect.

you're a lying putinbot faggot cocksucker. your mother was probably a mongoloid whore who got fucked by churkas.

fuck you and fuck russia

are you a nig?

Because Russians are stupid and Poles are even stupider.

"Ukraine" is literally "borderland". Territory of modern ukraine was always part of ever Russia or Poland, and borders were redrown after every war (every 17 of them). Ukraine as a region was formed only in 19 centiry, and as a country exists only since 1991, so 28 years.

Yeah, this is the actual answer. Plus they belong to opposing religions these days.

They are historically the two biggest/most influential Slav nations that actually matter (there's also the Serbs, but they were pretty far away from the other two).

They were both very successful empires at one point. Russia lost its empire once (to the Mongols), then gradually won it back over centuries.
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was an enormous economically prosperous and socially liberal, multicultural state whose political system got slowly taken over by special interests bribed by other countries (Americans, remind you of anything?) so that in the end, there was nobody willing to defend it and it got split up between Russia and Germany.

Poles are eternally butthurt because they were once an empire and no longer are. Plus (unlike the far more level-headed Czechs) they keep making idiotic emotional choices that make their return to greatness less and less likely. The latest is sucking up to entities (the US and EU) that are repeating all of the mistakes that caused their own former Commonwealth to collapse.

Russian eternal "we wuz victims and all our wars are defensive":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_the_Terrible#Livonian_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification#Poland_and_Lithuania
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Левитту,_Кароль
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_of_Polish_citizens_(1939–1946)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Praga
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD

Daily reminder, that the NKVD was full of Ochrana glow niggers.

Everyone hates Polefags.

>Poles are eternally butthurt because they were once an empire and no longer are
No, that's not true. Poles don't want an empire. Poles just want to be left alone. Poland has constantly been invaded and destroyed by other countries. Some peace and prosperity for once would be nice.

>Plus (unlike the far more level-headed Czechs) they keep making idiotic emotional choices that make their return to greatness less and less likely. The latest is sucking up to entities (the US and EU) that are repeating all of the mistakes that caused their own former Commonwealth to collapse.

what are you rambling on about? joining the EU has been fantastic for poland economically. not really sure why you think czechs are any different. they're very pro-EU and pro-US as well

>Russia lost its empire once (to the Mongols)
Nigga please

>Ukraine as a country exists only since 1991
So is Russia. Ukraine is a country and there is nothing you can do you dumb russian faggot.

desu Russia is pretty much Central Asians...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Sturmbrigade_RONA

Dude, your anal fire will send ou into space. Literally noone said ALL Russian wars was difensive. Only All early ones did.

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There were no Russian empire at the time of mongol invasion. There were hardly a country back then, more like a union of independent cities, each with their own army and kniaz (prince)

Poles are rats thanks to their Jewish blood, just ask all their neighbors what they think about POOland.
Poles have a history of invading and stealing and oppressing others when they are currently weak.

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Poland tried to buttfuck Russia (that was getting out of the Tatar situation) long ago, when they unironically were more relevant than Russia.
Then Russia made it a point to regularly genocide Poles and disintegrate their country.
It look silly today because of how much more powerful Russia has been since 1600 or so.

Cos Poland and Russia were formed around competing sovereigns. Thats it.

>cold
like when Russia shot down a polish plane carrying their entire government?

I fucking love my Russian bros, it's only our Jewish politicians and media shilling so we hate each other

we also need to go back to monarchies, we need to restore Polish Kingdom and Russia needs Tsar again. Fuck democracy

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while there's loads of answers, there's also cultural reasons. It's like looking at the distorted mirror. Reflection looks aaalmost the same. Just a little more and it would look the same. This imperfection makes you asshat mad, so you smash the mirror.

It's like that with Poland and Russia.

Poland got catolicism, latin alphabet and joined the ranks of Western nations. Russians got orthodoxy and Eastern traditions instead.

Russians are humble people. They think more in family/community categories. God is most important, and you are just a humble servant, know your place.

They can never get over Polish prideful arrogance and sheer individualism. How we say to each other sir, maam, like a nation 100% full of fucking nobility. They hate us for that. And we hate them for their Asian like mindset of ,,I'm not important, family and community is important". This blind servitude and not caring for yourself.

tldr; WHY CAN'T YOU BE MORE SIMILAR TO US

We don't really care about polaks. Hate to break it to you.

Borderlands split between Russia and Poland. Main division is still seen today in graphs like on the left (% of VK social media users who use mainly Russian - blue - or Ukrainian - red - language to talk with others). Also visible in political maps. The official standardized Ukrainian has many Russian words replaced with Polish ones. The words to their national anthem ("Ukraine hasn't died yet!") are like the Polish one, too.

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It WAS a large unified state, that got less unified over time, then the various princes started to squabble instead of cooperating as they had previously, so by the time the Mongols arrived they were easy pickings.

>God is most important, and you are just a humble servant, know your place.

Russians are secular you dumb piece of shit faggot polack

Poland is Russia's retarded little brother.
Unfortunately he's just smart enough to resent his sibling for the best period of his life under the Tsar, because he wants autonomy even when he clearly can't be trusted with it.

The Polish imported Jews like Swedes do with Somalians today, so Russia had to save them from themselves. Even today, the formerly Russian-controlled parts of Poland are far less cucked than the ones the Germans or Austrians took, so it evidently worked.

I like Poland.

t. half Russian mutt

Russia also did 9/11 and later sponsered SJW uprising. And niggers, Russia sicretly drop fresh niggers near US borders every night to distabilese that rigeon

We do not hate russians we hate Russia.

>brutal genocide of ethnic germans
lmao. that's why Gdańsk was >90% German after you took it back in 39'?

bitch please, stop fucking lying. you destroyed Europe and fucked everything up. we're in this shit BECAUSE OF YOU

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What else Russia did?
You're fucking retard, go suck Macierewicz's cock.

What about Kiev? if Ukraine is some made up country then are Kievan Rus' just some made up peoples?

No, they were never actually unified, there were just no reason to squabble. Mongols were the first test of their unity, ad they failed it.

russians don't hate poles.

it's just poles being assmad 24/7 like always

We've been at odds for centuries, my negro friend

Go and suck some more American cock you filthy dog
JUST act lmao, pay your fucking debts to the Jews you dirty slaveshit or no negroe mutt military bases in your meme country that you want so much.
:'3

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Kiev is a city. not a country. Today Kiev is a capital of Ukreine. 100 years ago it was a Russian privinse. 500 years ago it was a Polish province. 1000 years ago it was a main city of kievlian princehood, thish was the mightyiest Rus princehood among others. But even then it was not a country by itself, just a city

Not the first. There was also this:
mobile.twitter.com/Irkutyanin1/status/1128748701277720578
Novgorodians sending armies to help allies against the Crusaders.

So? Crusaders were mostly swidish cuck- faggots,

Hohohoho

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>believing swedes were always cucks

I don't want it you mong, but we live in idiocracy where two drunkards can outvote a professor. So what you expect Poland to flourish in such system?

At least 80% of people in every country are fucking retards who shouldn't be allowed into public institutions. We REALLY need to bring back Monarchy, cut the (((social help system))) which helps single whore mothers, lower taxes, guns for everyone and death penalty for murder

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Yes they were.

the funny thing is that the threat for poland comes from the West "globo homo schlomo" and not from Russia

No, they weren't. They should also apologize

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We can ignore when your shithole of a country tell us to accept migrants or else for 100000 time in a week. We cannot ignore russian tanks in our country.

Yeah it's a mystery.

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They are cucks. They never fought alone, Livonian crusade was 2 countries (sweden denmark) and some cuck traitors work against us and it took them for over 2 years to prepare like lmao

>Russians say they were never conquered
>Never mention Poland despite Poland conquering them

>Always say something about slavic brotherhood
>Literally took parts of Poland when Poland was split up between Austria, Prussia and Russia

>Tried to invade the world after WW 1 with their shitty socialism
>Poland kicked their asses

>Now biggest jewmove
>Killed polish doctors,army officers etc in Katyn
>Watched while polish resistance fought against Nazis in Warsaw and did nothing
>Implemented a dictatorship after WW2
>Literally stole polish goods after WW2 because why not

gay sexual tension

Oh, yes. Becouse a monarch cant be a pathetic drunktard

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Pretty sure all of Russia's Western neighbors hate them and with good reason too.

Absolute unit

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you voted PRO eu in the last elections. so i don't know where this BASED BOLAN XDDDDDDd thingy is coming from

Are you learning history by you-tube videos?

>Western neighbors
Not just western :)

Both sides are butthurt they just need to fuck each other get it over with it

>you voted PRO eu in the last elections
Unfortunately not. The rural retards voted pro-Israel and pro-Communism.

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Imperial complex. Both used to be great and are now shit
Poles hate Russians for destroying their country, and Katyn, and socialism
Russians hate Poles for their European choice

>pis
>pro eu
ya fucking wot m8

Oy wey, Germany are betrayed by Poland, Never happend before, and so undeserved

Of course he can. But at least everyone knows who's responsible for destroying the country. In idiocracy political parties blaim the previous governments for everything and no one is really responsible for anything FUCK this shit we need to go back to the good old ways of peasants and nobility

The only correct answer itt
I, for one, am gay for Russian boipussy

A tak nie jest ?

>PiS
>Nie pro unijny
>To nie Kaczyński chciał armii Europejskiej

nadziewałbym na miecz takich wieśniaków

Actual truth and not some polack lying butthurt like this First, Poland occupied Southern Rus', what is now called Ukraine, and made them retarded.
Second, Poland tried to do the same thing with Northern Rus', what is now Russia. And to be more specific, they invaded the country after the horrible famine and right in the middle of the civil war. Basically a low blow, and they committed horrible atrocities, which resulted in bad view of polacks by Russians. But unlike in Ukraine they got kicked out, and were taught a lesson in return for such insolence.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Muscovite_War_(1605–1618)

Poleshits are not fucking victims, they are simply losers. They are the same imperialists, they start shit first, it's just that they don't have much to back it up and get slapped in return by everyone - Russia, Sweden, Germany, hell even Ukrainian Cossacks. They are simply butthurt for being inferior, simple as.

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Poland and poles wanted to be on place of russia, but russians are stronger, more clever and know how to do business and richer
so poland is only poland, thats why they hate russia.
recently poles have sold own anus to EU and USA but these deal did not give poles what they wanted, russians took all by themselves.
so butthurt intensifies

Russians do not hate poland most of the time, but sometimes poles join russian enemies,
often this "enemies" consider poles as cattle and slaves
so russians must beat and put poles into their place, this requires some hate
most of the time russians just think that poles are stupid, uneducable and delusional

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I love how Poland started demolishing all of their Soviet monuments and all of the Russian media outlets and government institutions started bitching and moaning then threatening because Poland doesn't want their retarded eyesore communist monuments in their country

m.youtube.com/watch?v=YNxGuaPMOWE

Yeah, how DARE Poland remove our statues reminding them of centuries of shitty occupations and Katyn. The real question is why do Russians believe they are always entitled to everything from everyone when in reality they are pretty hated across the board?

So I'm not Polish but I live here and this question has always perplexed me so I ask about it a lot. The answers always vary depending on the feelings it generates but the best answer I've received was from a very dispassionate Polish man, traditional and I would even say 'wise'. He told me that Poland is balanced between what are the perceived qualities of its neighbors, the West being *too* civilized and the East *too* savage.

I think the truth is they admire qualities from East and West but the tension transforms into a tight Polarization (pun unintended) and it makes them as stubborn and intransigent as donkeys. They are contrary but extremely resolute about *what* they are, traditional, conservative, very good hosts and I think above all, Patriarchal. That said they do have a strong tradition of "wise women" and women here are thought of as the 'neck' with men being the 'head'.

It is a really strange place and another user said something I realised quite soon after settling here, if you're from the West it is very much like being in a mirror image.

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>reality vs wet dreams

Bolsheviks killed off any people in those countries with an IQ over 105, now they are just filled with dumb slav niggers.
Not to mention theyve been under Kike control for over 100 years now, there is no hope for the slav, the eternal white nigger of Europe

Poles dont hate ordinary Sergei or Natasha. They pretty much have the same lives and problems. But nations around Russia never relax.

Have you heard about the concept of an elective monarchy

>not really sure why you think czechs are any different
Because Poles seem to have a historical tendency to piss other nations off for no good reason because they believe they're 100% safe from retribution, then they get completely surprised when whatever country they thought had their back 100% suddenly abandons them. Poland's reactions are so predictable that more important countries easily manipulate it for their own ends. The Czechs seem to be more careful about trying to maintain good relations with different sides.

In WW2, they were clueless patsies for the Brits, who were themselves patsies for the Americans.
unz.com/proberts/the-lies-about-world-war-ii/

and all funded by freedom bucks from America with love to Stalin. USSR was in the end even more jewed than Poland before WW2.

we should have rolled over to Hitler like the Czech Republic did. no pragmatism in this retarded nation of mine, never been any. Germans had no experience fighting Russians on their soil, ours would have been invaluable. but we defied Germany despite being completely unprepared, and now we are the Mexico of Europe, economically conquered, and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

all for the jews who nowadays don't respect us or our sacrifice at all, change the history for propaganda purposes, and with the help of Zion Don will now enforce the goyim tax on Poland. fuck Roosevelt, fuck Trump, fuck american goblinos and fuck the jews.

you're an artificial nation, you claim to be what, ancestors of those Ruthenians who were raped by Mongols and Genghis Khan?

Lmao. When we get free from Jewish influences, we will take your whole country and genocide EVERY FUCKING LAST ONE OF YOU - that's including man, woman and children

no one will be spared Hohol, trust me I will not fucking hestitate to put you to sleep like a rabid dog

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>we need to go back to the good old ways of peasants and nobility
Instead of liberating them, we should return the peasant scum back to cages. Thanks to communism people descended from farm equipment are entitled to vote and influence society.

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I don't think either Poles or Russians hate one another.
I personally like Poles because they're just like us but more civilized.

I would let you ride my cock all day long, polska-bro ;3

whats your image from? looks like march of the titans