What is actually the difference between NatSoc and Fascism?

What is actually the difference between NatSoc and Fascism?

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look into it

Nothing, Achmed...

fascism places the state as the ultimate goal and purpose of a nation.
national socialism places the nation as the ultimate goal and purpose of a state.

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Fascism is just Italian syndicalism.
Nazism is German exceptionalism and expansionism.

both wrong

There are a load of differences but the major one is national socialism was race based, and everything they did was the server the German race. Fascism was civic, and did everything it could to serve the italian nation.

NatSoc is more based. Higher kill counts are possible.

>The alternative name for the modern Movement is the National Socialism used in Germany. But the German Movement also is known throughout the outside world as Fascist, which is the name commonly used to describe the phenomenon of the modern Movement whether in Britain, Germany or Italy. National Socialism and Fascism in my view are the same Movement, finding different expressions in different countries in accord with different national and racial characteristics.

t. Oswald Mosley

This. /thread

antisemitism, heavier emphasis on racial purity and pan-Germanism, while pan-"Romanism" was never a goal in Italian Fascism.

a lot of racialist autism intermingled with esoteric proto-history and occultism

Fascists never really accepted race realism.
National Socialists do; they recognize that every race needs its own living space, and are best separated. The state is to serve the goals and best interest of the people not the other way around. A proper nation is a group of people who share genetics, a common culture, and values. Without this, a country is only lines on a map.
England is the land of the Anglos, Germany is the land of the Germans, France is the land of the Franks, etc.
The lie that has been told to the west is that a multiculturalist democracy can survive. In this system, ideas are not competing in an election; birth rates and demographics only matter.

Your thinking of himmler, and his crew.

i.e. The inner circle of the party and the vanguard of it's core beliefs.

More like the inner circle of the SS, I’m pretty sure even Hitler called out occultists, and said they were not National Socialists. Hitler didn’t give a shit about religion, and tried to limit it’s influence or use it as merely a tool if he had to.

>national socialism places the nation as the ultimate goal and purpose of a state.
people*
same thing really

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>out occultists, and said they were not National Socialists.
nope, not the same group
he shat on larpers at some point during the campaign but not the gguys that werent larping, they were front and center of the party and the power in germany

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This

So basically there is no difference?

Boy, if you need to ask that, you got a lot of studying to do.
And you'll get no end of disinformation, trolling and shit-posting here, and pretty much anywhere else online. Go hit up a library. Only look for books written before 1990 on the subject. Avoid all books by kike writers if possible. Super simplified
Facism is the government form, strict and authoritarian. It has that bit in common with, for instance, communism.
National Socialism is not so much the way the country is lead, but the political content. For instance a 'my country first' stance (that's the core of the National bit). Protecting the working class from exploitation, without seizing the means of production (unlike communism). That's some of the socialism bit.
Nationalizing the banks, rendering the (((globo-homo's))) powerless in your country is at the core. Both National and Socialist. Very NatSoc, but not really fascism.

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National Socialism is a form of fascism but not every form of fascism is also National Socialism.

It's like every car is a vehicle but not every vehicle (lorry, cart, stage coach) is also a car.

I

read the fascist doctrine by giovanni gentile, its less than 30 pages long iirc
then read mein kampf, I think Chapter 10 is dedicated to the State

Mainly The state is the ultimtae goal of fascism, whereas National Socialism sees the state only as a means to preserve racial purity, if the state is unable to guarantee this then its useless

Nation is synonymous with race, or was before jews started fucking with our language.

Well then, I guess I’m an extreme National Socialist.

If i wanted to learn about national socialism instead of fascism, what are some must reads? Aside from mein kampf. That one is obvious