Read dostoevsky

Read dostoevsky.

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I coincidentally bought "Crime and Punishment'' today. Worth it or not?

I coincidentally bought "Crime and Punishment'' today. Worth it or not?

I don't know. I'd say it's alright but I don't like fiction in general

I Read the Idiot. Its like a Russian slow soap opera/drama series.

that's strange, trannies live in a world of fiction

>Read dostoevsky.
Raise a daughter to be whore and thot.

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Is that her baby? How does she have no tits if she’s been pregnant

mental basket case like her dad

Already have.

It's best to ask questions like that before purchasing a book, but here goes:
It depends on how much you already know about Russian literature, history and culture of the era it's set in, and on you approach fiction.
I found it a worthwhile read.

I read Notes from the Underground and realized how over-rated all of these esteemed philosophers and writers are. It's all a circular self-fellating scam, a bunch of "literally who"s propped up by an unelected and unaccounted for intellectual class. The moral theme or lesson is never more profound than what an angsty teenager dreams up, and it's always subversive and deconstructionist. It's all so tiresome.

One of the best novels ever. Incredible takedown of utilitarianism and by extension socialism. Reads something like a bad acid trip. Still is relevant to the present day, due to all the people pretending like reason and empiricism are enough for man to live by.

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to be fair, that's certainly his edgiest and angstiest work
try brother's karamazov or C&P

Not his best. Crime and Punishment is special.

Jow Forums should like it, because it shits all over even the very basic theoretical tenets of socialism, predicting what would happen under a communist regime long before any had appeared.

Imagine thinking novels are useful

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It’s the best book I’ve been forced to read
Read that and now gonna read some more of his shits

It was the first piece of fiction I've read in years, I'm sure it had something to do with it.

The fuck has Crime and Punishment got to do with any of this?

Damn, you're stupid. Dosto never wrote anything subversive, he was a devout Christian, and a Tsarist. It just went completely over your head, how, I don't know, since the first half is all about attacking the lefty radical utopians of his time.

why

Is that a communist book?

Dostoevsky is the top of the mountain. Brothers Karamazov should be another you read. Demons...all masterpieces.

Damn you are dumber than shit. Show flag, Kunta.

>It just went completely over your head, how, I don't know, since the first half is all about attacking the lefty radical utopians of his time.
No, it's an unrelenting and unforgiving assault against the nature of man. It's defeatist cynicism masqueraded as intellectualism and paints a totalitarian and deterministic picture for our fate. It's a bunch of "just so" story bullshit that doesn't leave you anymore clued in on an objective reality than before you picked the novel up. I also know he was sent to prison for meeting and associating with anti-Tsarist actors, while downplayed now, he might have been fully engaged in kikery. The novel reeks of kikery.

That's literally the central theme of C&P. Raskolnikov's murder was an utilitarian one: kill that woman that takes from the poor, and redistribute her riches to increase the happiness of mankind. See this quote:

> ‘...on the one hand a stupid, pointless, worthless, nasty, sick old hag who nobody needs and who is positively vicious to all and sundry, who doesn’t know herself why she’s alive and who in any case will drop dead tomorrow or the day after. Catch my drift?’ ... 'There’s more. On the other hand, fresh-faced youths going to waste for lack of support – thousands of them, everywhere! A hundred, a thousand good deeds and initiatives could be arranged and assisted with the money doomed for the monastery! Hundreds, possibly thousands of lives could be set on the right path; dozens of families saved from beggary, disintegration, ruin, depravity, the venereal hospital – and all this on her money. Kill her and take her money, so as to devote yourself afterwards to the service of all humanity and the common cause. What do you reckon? Won’t thousands of good deeds iron out one tiny little crime? For one life – thousands of lives saved from decay and ruin. One death and a hundred lives in return – it’s basic arithmetic! And anyway, what does the life of this consumptive, stupid, nasty hag weigh on the scales of the world? No more than the life of a louse, a cockroach, and it’s not even worth that, because the hag is vicious. She’ll eat you alive: just the other day she bit Lizaveta’s finger out of pure spite. They nearly had to cut it off!

No dude, Notes from Underground has two things going on:

Spitting on utopianism, reason, general progressivism (Part 1).

An uncanny portrait of the darker forces of the human psyche, of neuroticism if you will (part 2).

Even when he was anti-Tsarist in his youth he was still christian, and later renounced practically all liberalism when he produced his master works.

That's not the reason he killed her though. That's him just trying to conjure up excuses to reassure himself and justify his actions

It's a brutal anti-communist tract.

its not as good as notes from the underground its about a pol poster before he had the internet to escape to

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That's literally where he got the idea of killing her. Though the later bits about his paper on 'great' men being allowed to act outside the law and conventional morality helped him find his resolve.

I read Nuemann because of this POS. I want that week of my life back.

good, but I'd recommend Notes From Underground first as an entre into Dostoyevsky, and, if he appeals to you read both Crime & Punishment and the Brothers Karamazov.

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It explains how communists think. Doesn't explain how humans think. After reading it you will understand why free helicopter rides are essential to maintain society.

>Spitting on utopianism, reason, general progressivism
There's a great paradox embedded in the fabric of nature that traditionalists and conservatives can not account for. The organic world is de-facto one of progress and change because it exists under natural selection. We may argue about the merits, outcomes, and benefits of phenomenon like the industrial revolution, but ultimately we aren't in control of the development of these things as they arise in a natural manner. Progress and change are an intrinsic mode of existence, they can not be overcome. I think Dostoevsky is more correct than not in the first half, but it isn't a piece of literature that's purpose is to nudge development on a beneficial trajectory, it's ultimately just defeatist and nihilistic, proclaiming man will forever be a fallen and broken beast. The great divergence of man from animal already proves this incorrect, humanity has been under more selection in recent history than the past and our institutions form positive feedback loops in regard to assortative mating. National Socialism is the only ideology that makes sense and this has been known for a long time. There's an interesting paper that was published in the 90s by a jew urging that the demographics in the US needed to be upset to usurp the white majority, because he argued National Socialism is indeed the natural and logical conclusion to Enlightenment thought. I think the hatred the Enlightenment gets here is misplaced, mostly our of frustration with our current predicaments. The second half was just a warning of extrapolating fantasy onto reality, a fleshing out of the themes in the beginning of the novella.

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it's deep, like art

no, you can not kill people
you're reading that entirely wrong

Also, as a caveat, almost all of the issues we're facing today are from an abandonment of rationalism and empiricism. The typical SJW/commie/Anarchist embodies more of a real and true religiosity than any Christian in our societies today. Religiosity is still a heritable trait, the religion itself is a product of environment.

Read Solzhenitsyn's 200 years together ya twat

cuz she feeds it nothing but salty beef

Good change is good. Bad change is bad. Too much bad change will undermine and collapse civilization, which happens to be what we depend on for food.

Read the instruction manual on your toaster.
I guarantee you're voiding the warranty.