Is marraige worth it?

This is correct. I’m happily married five years, been with the same woman for nearly 20, shit’s cash. But my wife is also cash af and I don’t think there’s many like her out there.

>Bottle of lotion

Dfw mutilated mutt.

YES! NEVER GIVE INTO THE DEVIL AND HIS DEMONS!

In Western countries as a man: absolutely not.

only if they are rich and you are broke

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and no its not sexist to think that because women have always thought this and hold eachother to pursuing that ideal partner

Not anymore because cunts these days are kike brainwashed parasitic whores who do nothing else but burn the coal and leech off of you. And the ungrateful skank will definitely divorce rape like if you don't agree with her all the time.

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>legally obliged to fuck one pussy for the rest of your life, one disobedient move from you and you lose 1/2 your shit, she can fuck a whole football team though and if you complain about it... you lose 1/2 your shit
>have to share most of your time shit money and house with Mrs. user
>can’t change jobs or move house at will anymore, so your manager Mr. Schlomo Shekelstein has the whip hand over you, you bet you’re coming into the office on Saturday, all afternoon that’s right
>thank fuck it’s the holidays finally a week off this year, oh what’s that? You’re flying across three states to visit her family and it’s going to be stressful and annoying and not relaxing at all?

Gee I dunno OP what do you think

If you marry a 12 year old philipina and intend on having many kids, while living in a closed off sharia practicing community as a muslim, I'd say yes.

This.

And that.

i feel nothing but rage

Women can divorce rape you for any reason at all so it's not truly worth it. Its essentially legal slavery. If you dont do every single fucking thing she wants she'll divorce you. If she divorces you you have to give her money every month and if you dont you go to jail. The jewified legal system is essentially jabbing hooks into the hearts of young men and brainwashing women into being cunts that will tug on those chains as much as she can. The only way for men to be free is to rip out their own hearts and live a life of redpilled living where they dont get enslaved by a roastie until society collapses and we can essentially own women again

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This.

The real lesson here is that you can't trust women and you can't trust society. All guys should get the fucking hint by the time they're around 25 years old or so, but for some reason some dudes are slow on the uptake.

Which is why I can barely conceal my disbelief when I see dudes in their late 20s getting married. WTF are you doing. And usually they're marrying women their own age if not older, and some guys are even marrying chicks who are no prize at all putting it mildly. As I see it, there's no excuse for marrying past your mid 20s once you're starting to get your mental stability back, and your sex hormones are slowly beginning to recede. Giving in to do the betacuck routine won't turn you into Chad, quite the opposite it will take whatever independence and self-respect you had and undermine it.

If you were a test-charged maniac who fucked everything and got it out of your system... well, then you can focus on yourself now, been there done that got the T-shirt.

If you haven't... well, not being fucking married and ruining your life permanently is your consolation prize for pulling your way through your teens and twenties. Congratulations jerkoff, enjoy your peace of mind and piles of money.

T.chink

t. pic related.

Did I say anything incorrect, Muhammed?

It's easy to act all tough and macho when you're living in Saudi Arabia and have your women dressed up like ninjas and literally on a leash

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Women there are allowed to drive. Fuck Sowdi Cuckrabia.

It's real. Look at the suicide rates for men after divorce, they skyrocket. And 50% of marriages end in divorce. It's a special kind of modern hell where men are given all the responsibility to provide for a family and then told he can't see his own family.

In the UK the number 1 cause of death for males under 50 is suicide and a huge number of them happen when this shit happens after marriage falls apart. That's how bad it gets, it gets so bad that some men would rather hang themselves from their garage rafters than deal with women who are unimaginable cunts.

This is why MGTOW is taking off.

It's hard to believe any dudes are still falling for this shit, but I suppose when movies, TV, all women, your own Mom etc. are still all pushing the marriage meme, some guys are inevitably going to fall for it.

>Too cucked from years of marriage slavery to kill anyone, but yourself.
We need to meme them into murdering their roastie wife and familly court judges first.
Then the system will change.

Based.

No. Women are shit.

My younger sis was racist against her own people.

yeah im gonna kill myself after my divorce. sometime.

well apart from "love" which is what im assuming you're referring to. which is all nice and cool. most men... most humans just want to procreate.
and if you're gonna procreate might as well raise that blood line in a family unit that functions well so they can do the same and so forth and so on.

that is destroyed due to yada yada its been posted above.
dumb fucks like you that would rather jack off and be alone think marriage or relationships are about love.

>We need to meme them into murdering their roastie wife and familly court judges first.
I mean if the government was coming after me I certainly would drag them to hell with me in minecraft. Words cannot describe the type of rage I feel over our completely kiked out world.

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After the empty shit life I've lived, it could very easily be the shit icing on the shit cake. Imagine never getting laid in high school, doing shit in college, and then marrying a 7 who gets fat, cheats, divorce rapes you, and leaves you in a state where you are almost guaranteed to kill yourself. Sounds like the perfect shit ending to a shit life. I'm just trying to appreciate the fact that things could be worse than they are.

I feel like becoming you is the best shot I have for happiness. I don't even have money or shit though.

Guys guys guys, ignore all the shills in this thread posting about how terrible and disloyal white women are.
All women love white men, and white women are women, therefore they love white men too. Which makes them loyal.

What we need to do is le save the huwhite race by getting married and having lots of white children so they can go to school and be taught how to function in society and le save the huwhite race.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with white women and anyone who says there is is a shill.

I don't actually believe any man wants to get married, most these days at least just get pressured into it.

Imagine wanting to spend thousands on a day that is all about the woman.

I just want to fuck a ton of women.....if I have to pay for it, I don't care. Seriously, I just want to fuck a fuck ton of times. WOmen did this to me, society did this to me. I don't care, I seriously just want to fuck.

What has this to do with wywimminz?

Of course. Well marriage and divorce, alimony and child support are huge wealth transfers from men to women via the state. It keeps the money in women's hands and men subservient to the government. They'll keep spending their welfare checks on new shoes. That's one of the more disgusting things, women have no accountability for what they spend this money on, it's supposed to help improve the lives of the children but with no accountability she can just spend it on herself and neglect the children.

Imagine that, you're kicked out of the home because a judge awards the house to her and the kids. She gets custody and you get visitation rights a few hours a week, maybe supervised visits by a council worker if she's put in a false claim of abuse against you. So you're paying the mortgage on the house she's living in while you're homeless, and you're paying the child support for the kids who she neglects and spends that money on herself. And if you try and complain or point any of this out a female council worker and judge will deem you unfit as a parent or whatever and you'll lose all access to your kids.

Marriage has tanked in the UK, no one is getting married to avoid this shit. The government aren't happy with that at all because now when people split up the women have no legal recourse to ownership of assets etc. So now they're bringing in cohabitation laws to make sure women can still claim money from men because they lived together. This is our future.

Depends on what you want to get out of life, I suppose.

If you are going to get married, make sure you set up a legal contract which protects your finances and your shit, so a divorce court can’t take it away from you. No alimony. No splitting assets. Absolutely none of that. Exception for child support. It’s the modern age, women are empowered, they don’t get to have their cake and eat it too when it comes to that shit.

Exactly. So don't listen to any shill who says marriage is a bad idea. It's still okay, there are lots of great women out there - just get a prenup and you'll be fine if you are that worried.

You can procreate and live together without marriage. Don't involve the state in your affairs, and don't give the mother rule over your life.

>make sure you set up a legal contract which protects your finances and your shit, so a divorce court can’t take it away from you. No alimony. No splitting assets.
Exactly this. If you are super worried you can just do this to keep yourself safe :)
Find a beautiful huwhite women and propose to her tomorrow lads and le save the huwhite race.

i want there to be more white children to follow in our footsteps but the black pill is too real in this server's map and player base. nice graphics though
harlots dont become housewives
in a day and age where it is so incredibly rare to find a non-harlot, the only way to not lose in such a game is to avoid playing. shitty choices to make either way, why not make the one which makes you suffer the least

I have a gf. I can hardly imagine marriage. Women do what they want, even if they say they want get "raped" by you, that's all fake and gay. She will always use divorce and the state as leverage against you.

This. Wait until marriage with someone who does the same, marry within your race (and ethnicity, where practicable), and then build a family.

That will only ever be a temporary solution. If we ever uncuck society at large, marriage must absolutely be a part of the new legal and social order.

>You can procreate and live together without marriage.
But this is a sin.
Also, what happens if the two of you split apart, how is it guaranteed that the children will be looked after properly?
We need marriage to ensure these problems are resolved.
Thankfully, in many countries like Canada, UK and New Zealand, there are things called "common-law marriage" which means if you have kids you are still expected to pay for their well-being and the mother's well-being in the event of a breakup. It is really helpful for society and I encourage all countries to do the same.

Based. No single mom left behind.

Excample

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If you're into having a parasitic relationship marriage where you bust your ass all day while your wife is taking multiple dicks at home, you finding out later on and get a divorce and she takes half your shit and then finds another beta victim to repeat the cycle, then yeah.

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>Sin
Sorry, your religion shill doesn't work. Logic only
>We need marriage..
No, we need nuclear families and marriage in this day and age is a far cry from a nuclear family. Correlation vs causation. Before, you married and the entire neighborhood was friends and family who knew, and it was held in high esteem, an endgame. Nowadays you're surrounded by a large sphere with vaguely known people on top of divorce and cheating being normalized, and marriage is seen as something you just do and isn't the ultimate endgame with only widowing being your "out" or postgame. You're gambling on a woman's temporal state of mind while society tears it apart and completely neglect the aftermath of divorce on both parents and children.
And in your world: gambling is a sin, goyim.

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Do you have kids? Are they yours?

No, no you cannot. It differs in nuance depending on your country/state/jurisdiction (so always check your rights, never assume) but generally speaking prenups and contracts are worthless, judges will tear them up for any number of reasons. She can literally say that she didn't understand what she was signing and that's that. Or she can say that you also verbally agreed to some detail which you never did and then it becomes he said, she said and boom it's thrown out. There's precedent for both of those things, in places like the UK it's not even a secret that prenup agreements are NOT legally binding.

And there's increasingly laws coming in that say women do not need contracts or legal association (consent) with men to take their stuff, they simply need to be considered "a couple" by some subjective standard about asking friends if they saw them that way, or if they lived together for a short while as a "couple" and then she has all the rights she needs to take your stuff.

Most places have some variant of these shitty laws or if they don't you can bet they're going through the process of becoming laws right now, such as the cohabitation bill in the UK.

Divorce lawyers are jewish. Jews advocate for marriage to one of their brainwashed hussies

The only way to have a succesful marriage is if both people have equal monetary value

is divorce worth it?

Marriage is boomer-tier retardation.

Boomers each have been married and divorced a record number of times making marriage a joke.
Theres NO BENEFIT of getting married if you are a man. Only a pussywhipped retard would do it

>Women
>monetary value
Pick one, and only one.

>only half to pay half the rent/mortgage
>can have ethical and morally upstanding sex life
>have someone who knows every part of you and can vent to as much as you need
>can get hugs whenever you need them
No fucking shit it is.

DESU once you commit to a woman it's all over sexually. If she know she has the whiphand and you can't walk away, why make an effort? And that actually goes for shit like making you dinner or whatever as well as in the bedroom.

For women getting into marriage is like going from a temp worker in a supermarket who can be let go at any time if she doesn't bust her ass to a tenured professor or something in terms of security and status... for her.

This was true even in the old days, because you couldn't treat a woman really mean, or your neighbors/her relatives would come and punish you. So the civil thing in the old days was just to present a fake front to the world and live seperate lives at home. With the husband continuing to pay for everything, of course.

Depends on the person you're married to.

Not really, because well-off or rich women will be unhappy with a man MERELY on her level, and will want more.

62nd post best post

Amazing isn't it ?

> I wanna open a business
> Get advice from someone who tried to open a business and failed

Why don't you try getting advice from someone that built a successful marriage instead of living with a cloud over your head ?

:OOOOOOOO

Yes but you have to be very careful selecting a wife.

Ultimately it is worth if you want to have a family. We need more white babies.

No the UK doesn't have common law marriage, that's actually a myth. But the parent who is not the "primary caregiver" has to pay child support for children that are his. But there's no reason to believe that goes towards the well being of the child because the parent who gets custody of the children has no obligation to spend that money on the children, they can spend it on a new pair of shoes if they like.

It's because of the myth of common law marriage that women have come to think that they get a share of a mans house and assets if they cohabit and don't marry, but then later split up after a long relationship, the truth is they're not legally able to claim anything if children are not involved. And this new paradigm is fucking over loads of women because men now refuse to marry. This new "social problem" is what is causing the government to push through the cohabitation bill through parliament services.parliament.uk/Bills/2017-19/cohabitationrights.html

That will allow for similar rights that common law marriage has under other systems. Except they're proposing an opt out system which requires cosigning an agreement. The simple answer for men here is DO NOT COHABIT, make sure you maintain your own permanent address for a place where only your name is on the lease.

Some of you are such idiots. If you are concerned about getting divorced raped, then get married with a prenup agreement. Problem resolved.

But better yet, don't marry a woman cause she can suck your cock like a champ, and instead marry a woman because she's hard working, a clean freak, and can cook. You have to marry a woman for her qualities in taking care of a home, and your future children.

False analogy fallacy

>get married with a prenup
famously worthless kid

This. Traditional systems will eventually come back if things get economical worse and men were forced to pay for these sluts. It was always feminist, not like some romantic dreamers believe marriage is.

My grandparents were married for 55 years. My parents divorced, dad remarried and stayed married for 20 years now+

There's two things a man needs to watch out for in his life, where he puts his signature and where he puts his dick.

If you sign anything people put in front of you and stick your dick into everything that happened to give you the time of day then I think it's safe to say you're headed for catastrophe.

Tell you what, how about you don't ask me why I don't give up so easy and I won't ask you why you do.

Saying that getting a divorce is like failing to launch a business is just a false analogy, period. Nothing you just said changes that.

It's a hard redpill to realize that the real obstacle in front of most men is simply not being at the top or at least closer to the top of the proverbial pyramid, not just 'The Jews" or whatever.

A meme NatSoc society would be miserable, especially because of all the pressure to go around acting both happy and and dominant. Traditional societies cheerfully make you a slave, give you the obligation to 'be a man' while in practice tying your hands, and then pretend to act surprised that you aren't 'manly' enough or whatever. It's obscene.

The rule is always this: If you don't have the power to walk away into the horizon without any real consequences, you're not free let alone the boss. This is as true for a plantation worker as it is for husbands as it is for convicted prisoners as it was for residents of East Germany.

The freedom to go where you will and do what you will is the only freedom, and really the same freedom.

I've been in a great marriage for 3 years now. Roasties and Jow Forumstards both fail to realize that to make a marriage work, you actually have to be a decent person yourself. I rarely come to Jow Forums anymore but came today after hearing about that sick pedoshit. f you're posting on Jow Forums, chances are you don't have the emotional maturity necessary for a healthy relationship. Cry all you want, it's the damn truth.

My wife is stay-at-home and takes care of our son. Morons like would immediately call me pussywhipped for being the breadwinner, even though that's literally what God put me on this Earth for, is to take care of and protect my wife. And in return, she takes care of the house and children. And, of course, me too. But she also takes care of me. Emotionally, in ways I've never gotten from even my best male friends. I came from a family where my dad would beat me for crying if I broke a leg, so I wasn't used to showing much weakness at all until our relationship really got serious. A woman can glue all the parts of you that were broken back together just by words alone and that shit is magical and more than makes up for me being the only worker. She always knows what I'm thinking but can't say and is my biggest motivator (aside from our son). We trust and love each other completely. She always keeps the house clean and always has dinner ready for me. I never even asked her to. She just told me it's only fair. I think it's fair for sure, and I can't understand why Jow Forumstards devalue the stay at home mom's job while simultaneously screaming about the leftists going against traditional values. I for one enjoy not having to cook and especially not having to do laundry, and coming home to a well decorated and clean home every day.

So to round all that up, I fucking love my wife.

Ok sorry pissy morning I take that back.

However would it make you feel better if I said failed to maintain a business ?

No matter how you slice it, there's 2 people involved here. If you are the leader of the pact, you also have to accept responsibility for failure just as much as you're entitled credit for the success.

Yeah but ye olde folksy advice doesn't work in modern day where a signature isn't needed to hang you by the balls. A large part of the problem is specifically that this system can do that just through your actions alone, such as agreeing to live together for a while. No signature required. Same for where you put your dick, in fact isn't it canada where it doesn't matter if you're biological father or not? I think in Canadian law if you were seen to be in a father figure role for a child, whether that child was biologically yours or not, now you're permanently on the hook for child support.

So both of those things are outdated and wrong. You literally can sign nothing and not do a single thing with your dick and be dragged through the meat grinder.

Freedom is an illusion. You are not free to chose whether or not you are born, and what qualities you are to be born with. Right from the start you are dependent on others to feed you, clothe you, and take care of you to keep you alive.

Furthermore, you are never free from hunger, thirst, need for air to breathe, and for your body to work at keeping you alive.

Traditional societies are the best at providing stability for people to thrive, individually, and as part of families, and extended communities.

It's an even harder obstacle to admit that the real reason you can't get a woman is because you browse Jow Forums, have severely delusional ideas about who women are and how the operate, and are generally a pissant and displeasure to be around. I'm an average-faced guy with a very average dick, who made about 40k a year and was a virgin when I married my wife. But you know why she chose me? Because I didn't say shit like
>This is as true for a plantation worker as it is for husbands as it is for convicted prisoners as it was for residents of East Germany.
If you're comparing companionship to actual slaves, then you're definitely not marriage or date material.

So enjoy it now, you seem to have never any bigger issues with her and yes, that could work well for a long time, but it doesn't work well for all of us. Men and women are different and it may work for you, but not for the whole civilization with the laws we now have.

Damn where do I get one of those ha ha ha

Dude I've been burned so many times so unbelievably bad (I'm 37), I've been called every single goddamn name in the book lol and I still refuse to take this defeatist stance. Why ? Because above all it would be selfish, what about that girl out there that's looking for me ? Just ditch her ?

People don't seem to realize it's not just about themselves. If it was fucking easy EVERYBODY WOULD BE DOING IT.

There's the rub. Living in traditional societies is great, but falling for the trad LARP yourself is still not really well-advised.

Unless, again you are so powerful and untouchable that you can pull out any time you want (in which case, guys like the boomers ITT would say it's not a 'real' relationship because she can't feel secure).

And you're pretty much right that freedom is at least partly illusory, but relative power in society is very, very real.

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I think it's up to the male to decide. Women need to settle down and plan for their weddings as little girls. Guys must realize if they really wanna put their dick in the holster for her. All my friends who married in early 20's are depressed. Also, you need a prenup if so.

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I was like you. Hopefull stupid and innocent. Married 4 years tona trad wife then she left. Your dumb ass will be posting the opposite i. 5-10 years. See you then retard

3 years took care of this girl, took her out of the shithole she lived in, paid for everything, weed, cigarettes, vacation, rent, mom's rent, utilities, clothing.. put her through school... You name it.

At the end like I mentionned above, you never loved me you just paid for everything. It didn't just stop there, it was followed by oh and btw even though I don't love you anymore I'm staying till the end of the lease (5+months) and there's nothing you can do about it.

I said oh yeah ? You're fucking leaving this Friday. Wrote a contract, threatenned to take her to court, gave her mom a deal on the rent money I had lent her (close to 1k) and told them all to collectively fuck off. Landlord came over, co-signed the contract and that Friday she was OUT.

The law goes BOTH ways. You people just don't know how to use it. I've never lost a legal case in my life. And I'm 37 btw, how old do you think I am ? My dating range is between 30-39 about. And you think this is the only example I can give ? I was in a 8 year relationship. I've been with about 30 women at this point in my life, not one of them ever got the upper hand on me like this.

Did I get my heart torn out into pieces ? Did it take me like a decade to get over the other moron ? Absolutely but what's the alternative ? Curl up in a corner and die ? What about the person that's looking for YOU ? You don't care about her ? She's somewhere out there, even at the very least statistically speaking out of 7 billion people you're telling you can't find one you're crazy about ?

Happy medium. Don't marry raging cunt bitches, study them first. If you haven't seen a person drunk, happy, sad, jealous, angry, vengful etc etc You don't fucking know the person. 7 years. MINIMUM before you can even GRASP wtf you're dealing with. These people get married after like 3-4 years wtf you think is gonna happen ?

And then when financial problems come through the door, love jumps out the window.

>Wife's a single child
>Wife's mom was an optometrist
>Died before I met her of Cancer
>Her father was 20 years older than her mom. I think he is 78-79
>Basically he's out the door in a few years
> Paid off house
>Her grandma just died and we got 100k
>She has a bachelor's degree in chemistry
>I make her work
>I stay home all day with our son
It's perfect anons

>And in return
That's the thing men are complaining about you know. Lots of bad apples that appear good and after a few years turn out to be rotten. It takes two to tango and in general guys are the ones to take the risk and responsibility in today's society while women seem to be able to go completely cold once they landed "the big M". I've seen plenty of decent men who worked their whole life, contributed to the household, worked overtime, you name it and ended up coming to a house where the meals were bought, the cooking was subpar, the cleaning was minimal and the peace was gone. Only incels and haters believe in ideas like "All women are like that" but the fact remains that today's society favors women immensely and they get to be no-strings-attached even in marriage. Even the statistics show otherwise, yet you now present your N=1 case like it's some sort of absolute truth. You're only 3 years in on top of that, come back to the world when you're about to go into your grave or your wife is.
>that's literally what God put me on this Earth for, is to take care of and protect my wife
And that's why they call you pussywhipped. You just said you have zero use besides protecting a singular woman in particular. Nobody put you on this world for any other goal but biological procreation. You can protect a community, children, animals, the progress of society, anything and see it as you goal, but you specifically choose a woman to be it, an adult being who can do just fine on her own in the favorable climate.
Grats on being happy, but keep it real.

so she wasnt a virgin kek

Having that pessimistic attitude will only increase your chances of failure. And second poster especially? Your attitude right there is why no woman will love you. I bet you were not at all blameless in the marriage.

I guess you can find them where you'd find men willing to work 80 hour weeks for a month so his wife can get that emergency surgery.

>And that's why they call you pussywhipped. You just said you have zero use besides protecting a singular woman in particular.
Nice reading comprehension. I said it's my duty to take care of her. Which it is. It's my duty to take care of her financially so she can take care of me emotionally. I was also put on Earth to enjoy my life among other things, but I'd be a failure of a husband if I couldn't take care of her so she can take care of us.

She was.

Yes but he has a legacy and his words will be passed on, yours will be archived at Jow Forums.

Which one sounds more glorious to you ? A tree is judged by the fruit it bears. I believe I'm a good successful person but I'm a fruitless tree that doesn't sound very appealing does it ?

Do you all date supermodels or something ? Who gets plastic surgery ?

Nah women just need to be treated as second class citizens. Only jobs they should be allowed to get is crewmember at Jimmy John's and Subway.

Just saying. You cant tell her to "lets finally have babies", even if our civilization depends on it. She does, what she wants, even the trad ones. And if youre not playing like she wants, well, here is the end with the difference, she finds some new idiot, you dont.

I mean I think my wife's a 10/10 but to the average bloke she'd probably be a 6/10

My wife has gained 30 pounds in the year since we've gotten married. I'm purposely not getting her pregnant because I don't want to end up permanently chained to a landwhale. She was a D1 college athlete when we met.

Could be worth it, but I've found that the "now I can get fat" thing is very true.

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Just saying, you're an idiot who doesn't know shit about women which is why you're single and I'm not.

Because happiness is more important than saving civilization. You sound like a low IQ tard so yeah, don't reproduce. Those who are intelligent will realize they have a greater responsibility to have children, regardless of roastie risk.

Happened a little to my wife (from thin to a little chubby) but she lost all of it after our son was born. Marriage usually causes stress so people tend to stress eat. We found sticking to a simple workout regime helped us both lose weight. Be your wife's motivator and let her be your's and you'll become sexy again in no time.