Communism bad

Okay OP, I have some questions about communism
Can I still go to the pub for a pint?

removing the state doesnt suddenly make corporations good, and vice versa. if one bribes and the other makes the law it's obvious the blame is on both parts.
anyway, how hard is it to understand
>prohibition to dump industrial waste in a river where people fish and drink from = good
>shitty regulation that advantages some people over others = bad

>Former soviet countries see more harm from breakup
How fucking deluded can you be. Only insane boomers think this.

It's 2:30 here, way past my bedtime. Just took my ambien and should be asleep in 30 minutes. All questions can be answered by reading Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Che Guevara, and Presidente Gonzalo

>gallup, a US polling agency respected worldwide, is an insane boomer organization

Capitalism bad
Marxism worse

National Socialism good

then fuck off

The corporations are all created and propped up by the state, you obviously don't know how things work. When you grow up and go into business for yourself then maybe you'll firsthand how regulations harm you and how it's an incestuous relationship that is fundamentally based in teh corruption of the state that ends up driving you out of business and making the monopolistic corporations all-powerful.

This happened to me personally, and happened to many others too.

Also this is one of the reasons communists are mostly people with no real experience in business and the world. It's really really really really hard to think state power is a good idea once you've actually experienced business firsthand. I know commies think they're smart cuz they read Marx or read some stupid book or whatever, but all of that is theoretical and detatched from real life. In real life, you go into business and you see very easily that the state ends up being very corrupt and favoring those who are already in power.

And if you start talking about removing profit incentives and bribery incentives via socialism, then you have to content with the fact that you've essentially turned the state itself into one giant corporations.

There is no way that socialists win this argument. It's not real life. You're operating under a fundamental ignorance, naivety and misunderstanding of the world around you.

But dunning kruger, so I have no doubt that socialists who have accomplished nothing in life will continue to think they're "so much smarter than everyone else!" and continue being the useful idiot tools of the elites and making the rest of our lives so much harder.

yes you can

The current state of Jow Forums
Also >Ukraine being bulwark of democacy

so is there no money in this communist utopia? Or do we all just get the same amount every week?

it just sounds like you have bad business sense

Communism would never have even existed without capitalism. What a complete loser ideology.
>wahhhh capitalism
>capitalism help.jpg
fucking pathetic

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>your face when you were born just in time to see neo-marxists get punched into disabled parking privileges

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>banks and megacorps are products of the free market

t. illiterate nigger

Communism is about destroying the existing corrupt state and replacing it with a completely different state which lacks any relation to private business

Really? Is that REALLY what it sounds like? Or do you just have absolutely NO concept of the things you're talking about and think you're smarter than everyone cuz you read some book on communism and now you think you know everything?
Or am I to understand that now communists and the lefties DONT think that the tax code is rigged against the little guy and supports big corporations? Which is it? Seems like you guys change sides whenever it's convenient for you, doesn't it? Pic related.

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This just means nothing. It means less than nothing, in fact. I don't know why I'm letting myself get drawn into this retarded discussion. I have to go to bed.

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Stay based

>he thinks private business is the root of all evil
you must be 18 years or older to post on this site

if you abolish all corporate regulation then corporations will form cartels and monopolies like they always do. you're just as bad if not worse then communists as its always "not real capitalism", the whole system is incentivized for players to make the free market unfree.

there would be no money. you would be allowed to get alcohol as long as you are a productive member of society (although you would probably be socially expected to get less if you are less productive). the community would import/produce the amount of alcohol needed to satisfy the needs of the community members (alcohol consumption would probably be much lower in communism as it is harmful to the individual and is only encouraged in capitalism to get more profits)

Monopolies and state intervention/regulation are natural conclusions to capitalism. Do you think the class that controls the state won't use it to gain more profits? Read Lenin.

>estonia

Even in your ZION GOLEM DICK SUCKING NATO-KEK country theres lots of ppl who "see more harm from breakup"

ITT: Pack mules defending their masters

How many of those were nonwhites?
Because we need more of those dead.

So, since the US, and thus Bolton, utterly failed to topple the Venezuelan regime, does this mean that the US is now irrelevant?

Communism is objectively bad, but that doesn't mean Capitalism isn't an equally flawed and terrible system/ideology. I dont know why so many people fall for this false perception that there are two sides to every problem and one is right, the other is wrong, and that one answer being wrong means another must be right. The truth is things are a lot more fucking complex than that, deciding to support the lesser of two evil's is not the same thing as picking the best solution.

So theres no money, what if I want to get more alcohol? Can I get more "alcohol tokens" by being more productive?
And what is the difference between these tokens and money?

There's the problem.
I don't want to get according to my need and give according to my ability. I want to have more than others and find pleasure in seeing others in squalor. Only capitalism can allow me that.

Authoritarianism and state corruption are human factors, not economic factors. Capitalism is an economic system and fulfills its functions excellently. It's not responsible for managing the ethical conduct of a people or government.

99% bullshit.
As expected

Also only around 20000 (even less) Palestinians were killed by Israel dyring this period.

Of course. If there is more wealth being produced then naturally there will be more alcohol

tokens are used to quantify an amount of labour done
money is a parameter/measure of the exchange value between different goods and has no relation to labour at all

luckily, we are not instantly moving from capitalism to full communism, so the vast majority of people will be collectivist and altruistic by the time humanity progresses to a communist society, as they were for thousands of years before capitalism. Economic systems influence behaviour and values

Economic systems control politics and society. A capitalist's goal is to use his existing money to make even more money in the future. If the capitalist has the ability to make the state intervene in the 'free market' to create conditions which give the capitalist more money, then he'll do it. that is the logic of capitalism and is already the case in many industries.

>Cigarretes
>African countries we already send billions in AID
>Homelessness yet it was the left who called for decriminalization of drugs and closing down of asylums which is one of tbr main factors behind the homelessness epidemic today
>Compares the Revolutionary War to the Russian Civil War, as if Washington and the FF went around raping and pillaging towns and states that didnt agree to fight with them, only to subject themselves to a totalitarian nightmare
>Includes wars instigated by kikes and communists
>Implying conquering land where there was no actual civilization, and the only people there were just as violent and savage on each other as they were with whites while simultaneously believing that land cant be owned only to trade it away for anal beads and boom sticks
>Implying there were that many Native Americans, blames every death in the slave trade on America, conveniently ignoring who profited way more and who was in large control of it and has been for centuries (Arabs and Jewish)

The rest is just random countries that were a variety of ideologies beyond left v right, variations of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world tier societies, and I notice how you slip in your own deaths and murders because they
"Werent real communism". Fake and gay, I laugh at every brainlet who posts this.

Att this point people like you have no cure from communism only by either getting capped or living in an actual one. Previlege like yours only make iPhone socialist and you have no power other than being commanded by your puppeteers

If communist didn't openly support LGBT, open borders, hating white people, loving Jews then think you would gain more support here.

Everyone communist online: we don't support those things!

Communist irl: where's antifa let's dox this white male for racism

do you realize that the majority of this board is not right wing?? most are attracted to the 3rd position

>has no relation to labour at all
So when I trade my labour for money theres no relation at all?