Here’s the thing I come here every once in a while to get the opposing viewpoint and I’ll admit you guys have swayed me on multiple issues, and if you want to get into that later I’ll indulge but for now, I wanna talk about Islam. I absolutely for the life of me cannot get onboard with bringing these guys over here. For one I cannot see any good will, other than their perceived good will. Maybe I legitimately am a “xenophobe” whatever the fuck that even means, considering We have freedom of religion here, it’s not right for me to say that ones okay but that ones not. Why is it different? I know it is, I just can’t quite put it into words.
Ps. Christianity and Judaism are just as bad but dealing with 2 problems is better than having 3
Islam has far less tolerance for you than Christianity. The Christfags here just look down on you and vote for legislation you don't like, Muslims stab and kill faggots whenever they get the chance.
And as for the Jews....if you're white and male then they are certainly not your friend.
Jordan Hernandez
>converting by changing hearts and minds is just as bad is killing anyone who won't convert uwatm8
Zachary Myers
It's the people who take what is written in the Quran literally and try to enforce the laws as dictated by Muhammad as if they should be the law of the land. According the Quran a woman who is a victim of rape is guilty of a crime and should be punishable by death, and that type of barbaric belief has absolutely no place in the modern world. Also, me posting pic related would get me beheaded in some of those countries too so... you decide if that reflects your values as an open-minded, tolerant leftist.
With regard to Christianity the worst most extremist Christians will do (with a few exceptions) is hold up signs telling people they'll go to hell... not quite as bad as stoning to death. And Jews... well, most of Jow Forums hates them, but it's mostly the same; countries run by Jews (namely Israel) still allow for diversity of religion and free speech in their countries compared to those run by Muslims.
Easton Thomas
Sure, as a Western born Muslim I can spare the time to talk about Islam, though I am not particularly religious.
In particular, what do you dislike about Muslims? You've not given any real reason as to why, except that religion is in general bad (which is not true), and that Christianity and Judaism are problems, which is only true for the latter but not the former.
Mason Kelly
Consider that Islam itself will never change and will always be our enemy.
Brody Rogers
You can't have freedom of religion, tolerance for other cultures etc with islam. The fags you lefties embrace will be thrown from rooftops and your sweet little daughters will be fair game for a good ol "grooming." This is all absolutely halal in the religion of peace. Check my flag and trust me on this one.
Grayson Morgan
What exactly makes you "left wing" user ?
Leo Taylor
A good muslim is a terrorist. Mohammed was a terrorist. A good Christian won't even call you a fool.
Jace Baker
I just want to clarify, if what you say is true then you are not the problem with Islam that I mentioned above. There are plenty of civilized people who practice the religion of Islam that agree that stoning people to death for being rape victims is barbaric. But there are entire countries that operate under that belief and it is law in those countries that rape victims are guilty of a crime and should be stoned to death, and we in Western societies shouldn't be tolerating that or be encouraging people with those beliefs to come here in mass for the sake of 'diversity'.
Dominic Baker
The religion has produced a shit ton of lunatics. Have you read the quran in the order it was written, and the hadiths that attempt to get sense from it? Big Mo was not a nice guy.
Kevin Hughes
freedom of religion wasn't created with Islam in mind. the question is what constitutes a "religion" -- shaky ground when it's an aggressive political ideology that doesn't allow apostasy.
Jayden Sanchez
Are you on drugs?
Jose Thomas
Qur'an 2:191 "Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them"
Qur'an 3:28 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends"
Qur'an 3:85 "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable"
Qur'an 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than Qur'an"
Quran 8:60 "Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels"
Qur'an 9:5 "When opportunity arises, kill the infidels where you catch them"
Qur'an 9:123 "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood"
Qur'an 47:4 "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them"
Qur'an 48:29: "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among THEMSELVES."
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall). 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall). 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall). 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall). pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
You left out the verses where Muhammad married a 6 year old (Aisha) when he was in his 50s and had several previous marriages. Also the part where he had sex with her when she was a child and beat her.
They add NOTHING to society and take / expect everything......
You know what I could literally go on for hours. There's a fucking mosque a literal 2 minute drive from my house, our country's a rape festival for these "protected" people (yeah the UK's basically just introduced blasphemy laws to protect the little kiddy raping fuck sockets) and they need to be pushed back into their "perfect" Islamic lands because I'm personally sick & tired of hearing no-clits like brother-marrying Omar tell us why our countries are wrong and their countries are right. Are we migrating en-masse to Islamic countries? Oh no no no no no, they're spreading here like a viscous dose of a pandemic flu.
TLDR: Go to Youtube.
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These are a start, more recommendations will be made by YT when you start.
Elijah Roberts
>Maybe I legitimately am a “xenophobe” The first thing you've got to do is stop letting your morals, principles and beliefs be defined by what you might be called or labelled.
Seek the truth, use reason, if that means you're a "xenophobe" or a "racist" or whatever, don't let that deter you from truth and reason.
Kevin Long
I’m left wing in America, I should’ve clarified that. International politics would have me as a centrist I guess but I’m not too up to date on international politics. Economically America needs left wing change and socially it need right wing change. Those are my views
Samuel Sullivan
Of course not, if people wish to come here they need to adhere to our rules. America needs stronger immigration regulation, and it needs to properly filter out the wackos from the good ones.
The problem is honestly with how people interpret it. Wahabbis are good examples of a radical sect.
Though give me examples of what you mean, what I know insofar makes senses.
Brandon Perry
I only said that to show where I lie on the liberal spectrum as to spererate myself from the screeching banshees you see on the news. I would never unironically use that word lol
Elijah Barnes
This was during war. Of course God is gonna spur on his champion to kill the people attacking him, its naïve to not think so.
Jacob Jenkins
>i'm left wing. Sorry you were raised without a dad.
Xavier Bennett
Nice I get to watch another baby’s first redpill in real time
>We have freedom of religion here, it’s not right for me to say that ones okay but that ones not. Why isn't it right for you to say?
As for freedom of religion, that's not absolute. It's always been on the condition that the religion respects that nation and its laws. Islam is different because it doesn't have that respect, it takes every opportunity it can to make itself exempt from those rules and make the nation submit to its rule.
I mean. Sure we have freedom of religion but do you think we'd tolerate a pagan religion that sacrificed a kid every Friday the 13th? No we would. That an extreme example, but it highlights that freedom of religion isn't absolute and you are allowed to have an opinion one where the limit to that freedom should be.
Austin Moore
you sound like a cuck
Hudson Hernandez
Because Islam promotes the violent take over of other countries by any means necessary for the conquest of Islam, they can lie, they can rape, they can kill, they can bribe, they can extort, they'll out breed any nationality with their four wives policy.
Islam is a threat to the western rights you enjoy right now, think about it.
Mason Wright
>Economically America needs left wing change Please explain your logic on this one.Not feels, logic. How would redistributing wealth to the poor (who do nothing but spend and never invest or save) and making taxes higher help our economy?
>christianity is just as bad >non value blog post asking to spoonfeed him Dropped and saged Today Op was a faggot again
Easton Gonzalez
>who do nothing but spend, never invest or save. You try investing or saving when you have a child and are making 7.25 and hour. I understand people make bad decisions and should be punished but these are not mistakes they are circumstances, there is a clear attempt by the rich to keep the poor poor by lobbying to get tax breaks and keep wages stagnant since 1970. And all of this is made 100x worse when the insurance industry is a predatory as it is. The wealthy hoard mass amounts of money, the poor spend it and put it back into the economy, I’m not sure you understand how the economy works
Landon Anderson
Dude you’re pretty fucking out of it. I’m asking for your opinions not to spoon feed me I just asked why it’s different and how I can put it into words in a clear and concise way. People like you ruined this board I hope you
Connor Cooper
because the working class do all of the labor and create all of the value in the economy that they then never see any of it. You can only vacuum up so much of the wealth of a nation into the hands of a few people before the entire system collapses or standard of living plummets
Carson Anderson
>Christianity and Judaism are just as bad Oh please. Care to back that up with anything other than a few random nuts
>the working class So you agree that to get welfare you should be required to be employed. I can get behind that.
All you just did was spout off a few leftist talking points without offering a single valid solution or viable alternative. None of what you "want" to change will change anything. If minimum wage were raised to $15 an hour tomorrow the only thing that would change is that service providers and retailers would conduct layoffs and raise prices to compensate for the change. Leftism is a mindset of >yeah but wouldn't it be so much better if... Without ever having a plan on how anything is getting paid for long term. Your boy Obama is largely responsible for insurance premiums skyrocketing too, btw, with his bullshit Obamacare which REALLY fucked over lower income folks
Henry Edwards
islam is as bad as people here tell you it is. they fight everywhere they go. bc thats what the book tells them to do
Have those verses refer to declaring war upon infidels.
Jaxson Hall
Low pay / entry level jobs could actually be turned into a living wage thru Federal Subsidies. Its done across the board with alot of labor/farm jobs. "YOUR" issue should be with "YOUR" political beliefs, ie.. "YOUR" politicians are spending all/any available funds on gibs for ILLEGALS instead of improving the lives of actual AMERICAN CITIZENS. Do some math then convince me that YOU deserve low wages,your child deserves poverty so illegals can leach from OUR system while you and yours go WITHOUT. I'M ALL EARS LIBERAL-user.
Dylan Cruz
>Christianity and Judaism are just as bad 0/10, like at least try
Julian Hughes
freedom of religion would technically include the type of satanism where they sacrifice people, shouldnt you draw a line somewhere? food for thought.
tl:dr; stop guilt tripping yourself when you are right, you're only doing it because of essentially mind control programming, thanks to "culture" (media telling you how to think and whats acceptable).
You're an idiot - and surprise, it's a UK flag, like is attached to most idiotic posts these days. Tired of using the leaf flag, stupid?
And, just to shut you the fuck up, satanism is partially recognized as a religion, as the IRS sees the Church of Satan as a religion, like it does Scientology. And, the states and the Fed don't outlaw it. But murdering people is illegal, and not a protected religious practice, and bringing that up in any form is retarded and pointless. Much like most of the idiotic and pointless things you post all day and all night.
Tyler Richardson
Fuck off, faggot.
Adam Walker
Nothing wrong with Islamic Europe as long as it stays 100% European and homogenous, ethos is not as important as genetics.
"O Prophet, urge the believers to battle. If there are among you twenty who are steadfast, they will overcome two hundred. And if there are among you one hundred who are steadfast, they will overcome a thousand of those who have disbelieved because they are a people who do not understand"
This verse clearly calls muslims to attack and fight. This is not a verse for defense.
this has nothing to do with taxes or "the rich", but everything to do with the decisions made by a small cabal of jewish central planners in charge of the federal reserve system. the more money they print, the less purchasing power the currency has, which means the only option wealthy people have is to convert it into things likely to retain their value (property, stocks, bonds), the cost of which is where the inflation can be found.
