Does Simulated reality theory support Deism?
To my understanding it boils down to the assumption we are either inevitably going to create simulated reality, or already exist in a simulation; with the latter being the more probable case. Does this support the likelihood of creationism of some form in the realities above our own? How about self fulfilling circular scenarios like Roko's Basilisk?
Sometimes I'm amazed how people can't figure this out:
>simulated reality
is the first step towards God. How do people not see this? The believers in the church of Science are marching into their own doom.
Simulation or not, I want this reality to end.
I want out, now, please.
See you in ten days!
...Or not
do we live in a shitty Grand Theft Auto game?
Can you elaborate some more? I think we may have similar opinions.
Simulated reality/roko's basilisk are thought experiments with no basis in reality. The universe cannot work in such a manner because it follows no logic.
>simulations/programs are created
>planned, preordained, literal meaning of "programmed"
>So the universe was created
>But from what?
>Nothing?
>Illogical
>"Well the programmer obviously! For no reason whatsoever. A "God" if you want to believe".
>So an omnipotence? Why does something all knowing, make random decisions on a dime? What is the basis for their program? Where do they get the knowledge to program it?
>"themselves obviously, they are omnipotent".
>So then we're no different than them if they programmed it the same
>Negating the need for it to be programmed, it's just a copy/replica of itself
>so if it copies itself forever then how is it "programmed?
> It would never start
>nor end
>so it was never created nor dezstroyed
>pretty much logical in accordance to even what we understand. Law of thermodynamics and all
It's a hologram.
You've strawmanned yourself off on a tangent
Simulation implies meaning and an actor outside our realm to have initiated the process. It's inescapable.
We're in a simulation, therefore we can't comprehend its limits. It's like a 2d snake game character trying to figure out who programmed the game; the limits of the game are defined by the substrate the simulation is run on.
Without space there is no time, and without time there is no causation, and without causation there is no logic. This simulation we're was started from "a place" where causation such as we understand it doesn't exist. Calling it a place makes no sense either.
>muh laws of thermodynamics
Look at the UFO's zipping around and breaking the laws of physics in a multitude of ways, and realize we've just scratched the surface on the laws of the universe.
Does this theory support the concept of a master reality from which all simulations originate? Technically speaking there has to be a first reality, right?
Yes, albeit there is no reason to think that master reality is nothing like ours. In fact all the evidence points to the contrary.
From my experience, we can access that master reality (to a limited extent). It is a reality without time or causality in the sense that we understand it. There is no space. It just "is". Not only that, but our world can be viewed like that as well, and those from the other side can access ours without the limitations of space and time.
For an example, in the room you're in right now, no matter where it is, you're not the only sentient entity in the room. The only question is how the entities in the room with you are polarized.
>is nothing
>is anything*
double negatives
operating systems are a simulated reality
The universe is a simulation and God is the creator. Jesus was given admin powers because he had been a good boy for several lifetimes and God knew he wouldn't abuse his powers.
Yeah, nah, that's not how it is. Jesus was a case of divine hazing. Jesus - aka the desert carpenter pledge - was the new kid on the block, and He needed to prove He was worthy of acceptance with the Olympus crew.
We all know how it went down, Z-dog let it rip from the clouds with lightning 'n shit when our boy hit the finish line.
>boils down to the assumption we are either inevitably going to create simulated reality
I never misrepresented an argument because I represented an actual argument in my example and disproved it. It is not me making up that people believe that it's "simulated". They actually believe that bullshit with no evidence. Unless you'd like to properly inform me/ represent something with no empirical evidence that is.
>We're in a simulation, therefore we can't comprehend its limits
You just contradicted yourself.
>Without space there is no time, and without time there is no causation,
An assumption. You still haven't named a property of either. Time is a measurement, not a phenomena. We made it up to describe actual things occurring.
>Calling it a place makes no sense either.
But calling it "simulated" does?
>Look at the UFO's zipping around and breaking the laws of physics in a multitude of ways, and realize we've just scratched the surface on the laws of the universe.
Oh you know how they work? Also you're still assuming that the universe is "physical".
I wonder if the next step in technology is to leverage the (apparent) relationship between consciousness and reality.
Maybe there's more to it and we can amplify the effects.
Think remote viewing etc.
Or maybe go deeper and think about all of us being surveilled with perfect surveillance in the future (by rewinding time) being used to affect the past.
Who would simulate blacks and Asians? Lol
>tfw won't become part of the Olympus crew because I fapped in this lifetime
If you had to create a game would you just fill it with one race or would you create several races to make it more interesting? I feel like LotR or WoW wouldn't be as interesting if it only had humans.
Further on the surveillance point, let's discard the notion of affecting the past to make it more plausible.
What if remote viewing gets perfected in the future and everything you've ever done can be viewed by someone for the purposes of the legal system.
Any crimes you commit today eventually discovered by some court in the future with remote viewing time travel technology.
>You just contradicted yourself.
No, I didn't. A simulation abstracts and simplifies things. If you're INSIDE a simulation, how could you tell what is being simplified, as you have no reference point? The technical term is an unknown unknown.
>An assumption. You still haven't named a property of either.
It sounds like you don't understand general relativity. In case I'm wrong, explain to me how are speed and time related? What is time dilation and why it occurs, according to general relativity?
>But calling it "simulated" does?
I'm not the one who came up with it.
>Oh you know how they work?
No, what I'm trying to point out is that our understanding of the universe is severely incomplete. Therefore attempting to draw limits to the nature of existence based on our current understanding is naive and foolish to say the least.
The Big O crew is an exclusive club, we were never gonna make it. They only allow half-breeds or higher, and even the former ones are subject to hazing.
Fapping won't make a difference, J-dog hung out with a prostitute after all.
In many ways, we do live in a simulated reality. This world is a shadow of the true world
God created this world with his voice and put us here. When we die our souls either live forever with the Father in heaven or they are separated for eternity in hell.
Choose wisely for the path is narrow.
Matthew 7:14 (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
John 14:6 (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Good luck user. I will pray for you.
>No, I didn't. A simulation abstracts and simplifies things. If you're INSIDE a simulation, how could you tell what is being simplified, as you have no reference point? The technical term is an unknown unknown.
>unknown unknown
>I know it is simulated
fffff
>It sounds like you don't understand general relativity
Sounds to me like GR doesn't make any fucking sense. Tell me what the cause of gravity is you knucklehead, don't describe and restate the premise.
>In case I'm wrong, explain to me how are speed and time related?
They're measurements, not things. Name a property of "time" please, how does it "exist" without explaining itself? Things don't explain themselves that is illogical.
>What is time dilation and why it occurs, according to general relativity?
>Dialation of a measurement
Makes no sense.
>I'm not the one who came up with it.
Well it makes no sense regardless.
>No, what I'm trying to point out is that our understanding of the universe is severely incomplete. Therefore attempting to draw limits to the nature of existence based on our current understanding is naive and foolish to say the least.
Which is what I am saying. You need empirical evidence. "From what", and it isn't "nothing".
>I know it is simulated
disregard that part since that wasn't your argument.
>Sounds to me like GR doesn't make any fucking sense.
If you don't understand GR, then how the fuck can you talk about the nature of existence? You're arguing about something you know jack shit about.
>They're measurements, not things.
>L2GR
Listen kid, you're trying to discuss things you don't understand. There is no point in continuing.
We already exist in a simulated reality. UFOs are cameras for the entities watching our simulation.
If they're the cameras, they got shitty coverage outside 1st the person view.
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I just want to smoke some billys in peace.
>If you don't understand GR, then how the fuck can you talk about the nature of existence? You're arguing about something you know jack shit about.
Nobody understands GR because it's made up as they go along. No explanations to anything and the assumption that light "has a speed" and no empirical evidence of any particle they've conjured up. None.
>L2GR
>Learn to disregard empirical evidence and replace it with crackpot secularized metaphysics
Lolno.
>Listen kid, you're trying to discuss things you don't understand. There is no point in continuing.
One fucking property. You can't even name one property of space or time can you? You know why? Because we made them up. The "space" is "filled" and "time" is a measure of frequency of phenomena reacting to other phenomena. Those "phenomena" aren't "time", they're things that are observable and empirical. Time is neither of those. It doesn't exist.
Simulated universe is on about the same level as the world being carried on the back of a turtle, intelectually.
>doesn't know even the basics of GR
>says "Nobody understands GR because it's made up as they go along"
It's time to stop posting, child.
No. Just no.
There is no simulated reality, unless its the reality in your head because your crazy.
This is the kind of stupid that gets smart people.
Simulated reality is stupid no matter what religion thinks it up next.
Religion is all about warfare and training for war.
Religion is not about God it never was and never will be. God is just the tool used to get people to fight for whatever philosophy that religion is pushing.
Philosophy isn't all bad its just a law, creating culture, a culture that works or should work over time if and only if that philosophy is followed as a religion.
God is the stick and carrot. The Punishment and the reward.
Science is not a religion, its a method of counting and recording your countings.
Anything else is NOT science.
>questioning bleeding edge physics theorems in a one-line post while misspelling intellectually
kek
That's deep - if you're a 16 years old.
I'm out.
No its a Bathesda game, that is the reason its broken and people are ugly.
Yes, the sim has a creator
creator = god
>There is no simulated reality,
stopped reading right there. sim theory should be taken seriously by everyone. anyone who doesn't take it seriously is retarded.
I think we were made “in the image” of a human being from another dimension or time period and we exist as either an experiment or a biological mechanism for some greater project that we can’t predict or understand yet on this time scale.
The Universe was created by a decay of antimatter.
Antimatter is created by energy that collects under gravity.
The Matter is what escaped the antimatter gravity wells.
Most of the Universe is antimatter NOT matter.
This is the reason for the expanding universe.
Its not some computer program, simulated reality.
It's just vanilla physics, with most of the stupid people getting grants and other funding to tell lies and other falsehoods.
piss off. One property. You can't do it so fuck off. Measurements aren't things you stupid twat.
>created by decay
Contradiction. The rest of your horseshit still doesn't explain what gravity is.
You must yell "tech support"into the air
That would take a lot of human brains to record playback and witness a world that was.
So even if it was done, would those crimes be under past, current or future laws.
The legal system would need to be as advanced as the viewing system.
Under such a system either it would be tyranny or some other system not yet seen.
That court and the laws and punishments would be forced to fit the crime.
Unless death is the only accepted punishment.
Either way, sounds like it would be its own enemy.
The laws of physics created this world.
No God would have a hand in it, if that God had a choice. If a God hadn't a choice in this world, then that would make a poor God.
>Anti-matter gravity wells collecting energy and dispensing matter
Clearly the most logical explanation....
Kids today have such great imaginations
Where did the laws of physics come from? What dictates them in the first place?
Just because you have the pieces of a puzzle doesn't mean that they take no time to put together.
Some puzzles just take longer to assemble then others.
Religion is known by any 12 year old to be a con. Just the who's, how's, what's and when's can take longer to put together.
Then putting it into words, then a short post well. Longer still.
Religion does work, if you don't have some get some. Baring that, you need a philosophy, a good one that works just as well overtime as any religion in creating law and culture.
That may take a bit longer still.
So choose a pre-made or Build your own.
Whatever you choose hold on tight, as it must be worth fighting for, dying for and killing for.
Otherwise its not a philosophy worth having.
Good luck.
Na man. The entire universe is simply inside an atom.
And inside every atom is a universe.
Infinite universes.
Does this mean all possibilities must happen? Maybe. Probably not though.
If we are in a simulation, being run by an advanced form of humanity in the future, they likely have the resources to conduct not just 1 simulation - but thousands of millions simultaneously. When a simulation is run, it is a fair assumption it is being run in order to obtain data. Today, in studies, we “blind” participants (group A doesn’t know if they received the placebo or the real drug) because otherwise the data becomes unreliable. There is no reason to believe a simulation would be any different. If the actors in the simulation became aware they were in a simulation, that would introduce an unwanted variable to whoever is running the simulation. Discovering we are in a simulation would very likely change the way we acted within the simulation, comprising the intended purpose. Unlike studies conducted today, an advanced civilization probably has millions of such simulations running. The simulations that feature actors that become aware of the nature of the simulation would not produce quality data. The plug would probably be pulled.
>stop trying to figure out if we are in a simulation you are going to get us all killed