Why do Americans obsess over race so much?

Austin Morgan
Austin Morgan

Why are Americans so obsessed with race? I've always liked america as a country, but I don't get why you guys care so much about people's skin colour.

Inb4 it's time for evening prayer mohammed
I'm a ginger brit.

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Nicholas Perry
Nicholas Perry

If you can't manage to be better than a black man who makes you upset, you have to pretend you're at least on the winning team.

John Walker
John Walker

Also it's mostly rust-belt retards who are still salty they managed to somehow lose a war to liberals 150 years ago.

Brayden Hernandez
Brayden Hernandez

So is it mostly just a loud ignorant minority?

Justin Torres
Justin Torres

Anyone with any intelligence has swapped over to despising the rich instead, it's mostly just crying boomers sad about the American Civil War who manage to be very loud by always being on reddit and facebook.

Lincoln Price
Lincoln Price

despising the rich instead
Please explain.

Luke Reyes
Luke Reyes

Its what we created them for.
Destroy all other races until there are only txo left:
The chosen race and the goyim

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Matthew Rivera
Matthew Rivera

Bezos, Zuckerberg, guys like that. Anyone with a brain despises those kinds of people instead of whatever ethnicity.

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

Yeah, you may not like them. But why does there wealth affect that?

Caleb Ross
Caleb Ross

It's not the wealth they have, it's what they're doing with it. They're focused on hoarding it in liquid and semi-liquid assets, or in non-depreciating hard assets, instead of using the money to invest in industries and labor that would recirculate it through the economy, essentially.

William Lopez
William Lopez

Really? Most of bezos' money is in amazon who's whole business model is in buying up companies. Storing money in liquid or semi liquid form is a recipe to stay still, financially. yet they keep getting higher net worth's due to their increased investment in different areas.

Joshua Brown
Joshua Brown

I dunno, why are Brits so enamored with the U.S. that we live in your heads rent free 24/7?

Ryder Robinson
Ryder Robinson

why are Brits so enamored with the U.S
mate, we spend half the time taking the piss out of you. Go into any pub and talk in an american accent and you'll see how 'enamoured' we are with you guys.

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Nathan Murphy
Nathan Murphy

Nope, most of Amazon's money is in Amazon. Billionaires like that statistically keep vast amounts of liquid or nearly-liquid assets. Amazon can grow, but Bezos and co focus on accumulating liquidity. Hell, the world's top billionaires have over 1.7 trillion dollars of unspent, spendable pure-liquid assets that they're just refusing to use for no other reason than the lead-poisoned brain loves seeing numbers go up.

There's no beef with the idea of the wealthy being wealthy, but honestly, they need to buy more yachts, gold-plate more toilets, and commission more totally excessive artwork, or at the very least strongly invest in development of new industries, technologies, and other hard assets that circulate the liquidity to labor before it comes back into their hands.

Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

Because the US made the mistake of allow the South to perpetuate it's "culture" and "traditions" and victim mentality for losing the civil war.

And because the elite dangle racism over the head of poor white people to keep them distracted.

Isaiah Watson
Isaiah Watson

Do you know how making money works? The reason their net worth's keep going up is that their shares in their companies keep going up in price.

Joshua Edwards
Joshua Edwards

Yet,here you are still fapping over us.
It's funny because when we are in bars, we don't ever think or speak of you at all.
So my point still remains.
You admitted it yourself.
Rent free.

Ryder Edwards
Ryder Edwards

Because the basis of society is a highly religious, culturally and ethnically homogeneous community.
The Americans, unlike Europe, don't have a single founding ethnicity so they have artificially forged an ethnicity.
The 'white' race.
It's a completely understandable civilizational reaction to a multi-racial society.
Every Empire in history has been founded on the idea of the racially superior race lording over the lesser races.
And every Empire in history has fallen after they abandoned that view of racial supremacy to the idea of cultural supremacy where out-group members can become in-group.

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

This is why we take the piss out of some of you guys. You think everyone should bow before you and can't have a laugh.

Mason Powell
Mason Powell

Except, Uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhmmmmmmmm....... The British empire.

Eli Young
Eli Young

Cecil Rhodes
I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race.
Joseph Chamberlain
I believe that the British race is the greatest of the governing races that the world has ever seen.
Richard Ligon
‘that there are as honest, faithfull, and conscionable people amongst them, as amongst those of Europe’.
Sir Thomas Herbert
Africans must be descended from apes and were part of a separate and inferior race.
Lord Kames
Charles White
Charles Darwin
Benjamin Rush
Benjamin Franklin
Just to name a few.
And the Empire declined as we abandoned Anglicanism for secularism and became Humanistic.
We were at our greatest while we were at our most racist.

Camden Hernandez
Camden Hernandez

And the Empire declined as we abandoned Anglicanism for secularism and became Humanistic.
The Empire declined because we had to fight 2 world wars against some kraut wankers, then we had a socialist intellectual class who found it fashionable to hate Britain and any sense of national pride or patriotism.

Justin Cox
Justin Cox

hes never meet the basket ball american.
im from the south, so i can tell the difference, but just you wait til you meet a feral basket ball american.

Lucas Miller
Lucas Miller

I didn't say anything about bowing before anyone.
There you go again with these worship fantasies, I know you all have to scrape before your queen and all but really.
Laugh all you want, it really doesn't bother most of us, only those with self esteem issues.
Hell, if you were here I would buy you a pint and laugh along with you but that being said you still haven't answered my question.
Is it genuine curiosity?
Is it envy?
Is it that you have never lived next to nogs and have no idea what they are really like?
I was "taking the piss" out of you before now I am actually interested.

Joseph Ross
Joseph Ross

It's curiosity. I'm good mates with a few black people and I've never seen them as lower people than me. In fact, in some areas, some of them are better than me, in the same way some of my white friends are better than me in some areas. I just don't get why I constantly see Americans obsessing over race. It does happen in the UK, but to a much lower level.

Ethan Robinson
Ethan Robinson

we had a socialist intellectual class who found it fashionable to hate Britain and any sense of national pride or patriotism.
I know exactly what you mean, this is what we are fighting against so hard right now here.

Brody Gutierrez
Brody Gutierrez

We went into decline around the 1870s, we only collapsed after WW1 and 2, but that was simply kicking in the door to see the entire rotten structure collapse.
If WW1 had not happened I agree that we would have lasted longer, but by that point we were already going into decline.
National pride is derived from pride in race and people.
Not in the institutions, not in the storied history, not in the military accomplishments, not in the wealth of the nation or anything like that.
Pride in home, hearth and race.
Notice how all the Socialist Intellectual class were all anti-racists and the only patriots were 'racists'.
Try as you might to divorce race from nation, they are one and the same.
When the race is abandoned, the foundation is abandoned, and so the house no matter how grand crumbles.
To revive our Empire, our nation and our God given place in the world, we must first revive our race and our pride in it.
Albion first, Albion only, Albion forever.

Eli Martinez
Eli Martinez

National pride is derived from pride in race and people.
How come Hong Kong wishes it was British again? Because they took pride in the British values we gave them, that allowed them to become a financial hub.

Notice how all the Socialist Intellectual class were all anti-racists and the only patriots were 'racists'.
There were plenty of patriots that didn't care about race, they just weren't loud about it because it's hard to make noise about how little you care. Why do you think there were so many natives hired by the east India company and the British Army (Eg the ghurkas)

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

It's a muttified hellhole worse than just about any first world euro country. Of course people are going to want to stick to their own.

Most of the rust belt is in the north retard.

The only form of raycism that gets dangled over their heads is woke kill whitey shit.

Wyatt Brooks
Wyatt Brooks

The rust belt is largely union territory.

Eli Morris
Eli Morris

I'm talking about liquid assets, not net worth. Actual, factual dollars rather than stocks.

Angel Hughes
Angel Hughes

Very little of the money that the richest people have is liquid, that's how they grow their wealth, they invest it.

Jace Nelson
Jace Nelson

Hong Kong wants to be British because they appreciated the 'liberty' they had.
Simply, they enjoyed a economically beneficial status under the British are were more free than their mainland cousins.
This is nothing to do with pride in British values, rather a cynical play for more money.
I do not blame them, but do not mistake this for more than what it is.
Patriots that didn't care about race
Like? Name a single white Briton that at the time was proud of empire and wanted to keep it that didn't see the British as the greatest race.
The Gurkhas and hired guns in India were nothing but Mercenaries fighting for money.
'Values' mean nothing. Culture is derived from ethnicity, not imposed by an outside force.
Europe has always had European values, Africa has always had African values.
You can sway it slightly or direct it in a different direction but the base stays the same.
Africans on a genetic level have African culture.
Europeans on a genetic level have European culture.
Personality traits are 50-60% heritable and as such the character of a people are consistent regardless of environment or imposed 'culture'.

I have also noticed how you did not engage with any of my arguments regarding how the British Empire was founded on the primacy of race.
Or how when we became secular and humanist we went into decline.
Rather choosing to engage with the side arguments of culture and patriotism.

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

the British Empire was founded on the primacy of race.
No, it was formed when we were jealous that Spain was taking all of the Americas to themselves and wanted a piece of the pie.

Name a single white Briton that at the time was proud of empire and wanted to keep it that didn't see the British as the greatest race.
British did see the British as the greatest, but British =/= White, there were plenty of Indians, Chinese, Pakistanis and Africans who fought for Britain, respected and replicated its values and made their countries better as a result following decolonisation.

Europe has always had European values, Africa has always had African values.
If so then why did Europe spend 1000's of years fighting within itself, if we all agreed on values then we wouldn't need to fight. Don't you agree?

Personality traits are 50-60% heritable
I agree it is heritable, to what degree if up for debate. But no one is purely one race so it's not logical to clasify people's intelligence and personality based on their race as there has been so much genetic mixing.

Rather choosing to engage with the side arguments of culture and patriotism.
Sorry if this is what you thought, I was just engaging with the arguments I found most interesting to contend with.

Noah White
Noah White

How can you pray if you dont even have a soul?

Cameron Barnes
Cameron Barnes

The casus belli for taking the new world and Africa was that the English were God's chosen people and destined to rule the world.
At no point were the lesser races considered to be even human.
British =/= white
True, not all white people are British. But all British people are white.
respected and replicated its values and made their countries better as a result following decolonization.
Come on lad, this is nonsense. and we both know it.
The Indians went back to their barbaric ways, as did the Chinese, Pakistanis and Africans.
The few who Anglicized fled during decolonization to the pockets of British rule or Britain itself.
Having similar values means we don't fight
Stop being obtuse.
It meant that when threatened by an outside force, like that of the Muslims or Mongols Europe united to throw them out.
It means that every European civilization has favoured progress, hierarchy and expassion which means at times they will clash with each-other.
However Africans never united against the colonizing Europeans, rather squabbling in their back-garden like children as Europe kicked its door down.
Africa has always gone to regression, barbarism and tribalism. As soon as Europe left the continent has been stuck in the past and under constant ethnic conflict which has only been contained by Europe pumping trillions into it and the Chinese colonizing it.
Africa can never be on the same level as Europe, because the average African is not as smart, altruistic or create as the average European.
Genetic mixing
There might have been mixing inside ethnicities within a singular race, but rarely between races.
And when there have been the creation of mixed race populations they have been a dull and listless people.
The cape coloureds for example, or African Americans.
A good standard deviation in IQ above the Average pure African due to European admixture, yet have produced nothing on the level of Europe even during its dark ages. 1/2

Alexander King
Alexander King

2/2
On another note you have ignored how I presented the people who shaped the Empire and what the views they had.
The Empire was explicitly white, and explicitly Anglo-Saxon.
Engaging in arguments I found most interesting
A cop out. Nothing more.
You have yet to provide a single example of a white 'patriot' rather providing broad nonsense non-examples about how 'non-whites' adopted 'British values' again a nebulous and ill defined thing.
What are British values?
And what is British if not ethnic?

Michael Hernandez
Michael Hernandez

gingers are worse than muslims stfu

Adam Collins
Adam Collins

But all British people are white.
Would you say that to the family of a black soldier who died fighting for Britain?

The Indians went back to their barbaric ways,
Really? Because they're rapidly developing into a strong, proud nation
as did the Chinese,
Not the parts we owned (Honk Kong), just look at the recent protests
Pakistanis
I'll give you that one, their radical adherence to an extreme form of Islam prevented them from growing
and Africans.
Africa is fucked because we messed up in diving it up and forced people who hate each other to live together.

Stop being obtuse.
I'm not, if you agree with someone and share their values, you don't fight them. Europe had plenty of disagreements about values, from the protestant vs catholic thing, to the constant will to invade each other's land.

And when there have been the creation of mixed race populations they have been a dull and listless people.
Really? Pretty much every port city has a mostly mixed population.

The Empire was explicitly white, and explicitly Anglo-Saxon.
Yet we had a large amount of Pakistanis and Indians working inside it. Something doesn't add up, mate.

You have yet to provide a single example of a white 'patriot' rather providing broad nonsense non-examples about how 'non-whites' adopted 'British values' again a nebulous and ill defined thing.
I assume you mean non-white patriot.

so here:
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Hunter Rodriguez
Hunter Rodriguez

or perhaps the south just keeps it real and never fell for the bullshit that they are in any way shape or form equal to us

Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

Would you say that to the family of a black soldier who died fighting for Britain?
Yep, he was a mercenary.
Strong, proud nation
Poo in Loo.
Pakistanis
At least you see that, but Islam isn't the cause.
Africans
So you will admit that different races (and ethnic groups) cannot cooperate and forcing them to live together is not conducive to a functioning civilizations.
Pray tell, why was Africa so uniquely backwards before Europeans arrived if not for the temperament and IQ of the people?
And don't quote the Hack Jared Diamond at me.
Share values you don't fight
Stop being silly. People who are exactly the same will find some way to fight.
Europeans share a base set of values and ethnicity hence why they are a group.
But even groups will fight. Gibbon tribes will have mini civil wars over who rules the pack.
Humans are the same.
Port city mixed population
Until the later 1800s this is simply untrue.
And notice how port cities are hives of degeneracy and liberalism.
Pakistanis and Indians
Ruling over a people =/= equal to those people
The Romans had slaves, therefore the slaves are equal to the Romans.
Non-white Patriot
No I mean a WHITE PATRIOT who was ANTI RACIST from the 1800s and early 1900s as you attempted to argue earlier.
A bravery of a mercenary is certainly impressive, but no proof that they hold British values or culture.
And define British values.

But I can see it is not worth arguing, I have work tomorrow so I need to go to sleep.

Hunter Green
Hunter Green

thats just how it is and always was

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Blake Ortiz
Blake Ortiz

Inb4 it's time for evening prayer mohammed
I'm a ginger brit.

t.

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John Diaz
John Diaz

You know how I know you're a shitskin immigrant who knows nothing about American history?
Probably illegal too, or children of illegals who can barely speak English and know even less about America
You and your shitskin kin needs to go back to whatever shithole you came from, before you're sent back against your will.
Most likely in pine boxes, or in bags

Wyatt Martinez
Wyatt Martinez

Yeah personally i don't think that a greek is the same as a swedish or a russian the same as a moroccan, yet in America they belong to the same category "the white race".

Samuel Watson
Samuel Watson

This reaks of someone who lives in Sunderland. Fuck the Mackems

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