Men in Crisis

What can be done to convince men to re-enter society? Birth rates continue to fall drastically and women over 30 are becoming hopeless emcels. Something has to change, and quick.

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Free cloned wife or robot wombs

Ending divorce rape couldn't hurt

>men are evil!
>down with the patriarchy!
>you go girl!
>im a strong and independent woman!
>REEE WHY DOES NO ONE WANT TO FUCK ME THIS IS MEN'S FAULT REEEE

It's the economy stupid.
The western world still hasn't really recovered from the 2008-2009 crash.
And we're soon due for another recession apparently WEEEE.

arranged marriage but i dont want a fatty ok

2017. Bro. This whole thread is about (you)s

>By Melanie Notkin

Seriously, the video game manchild shit needs to be addressed. You can reee all you want about females but there are a lot of immature awful men out there and they aren't growing out of it. Seeing 45 year olds acting like they're 19 on summer vacation is pathetic.

It's men's fault women go to debt for four years of jew propaganda and then want careers. Marry these sexually liberated and financially ruined women goyim.

This exact thread was posted this morning, who’s doing this?

When video games are more interesting than women, maybe women should grow up and learn how to be better people.

2 years is nothing compared to the decades this phenomenon spans

This bait again:
Scenario one:
Crisper babies become ubiquitous and most humans become useful members of a technologically advanced society
Scenario 2: debt bubble bursts, gibs stop flowing, stupid people can’t afford kids anymore

> either way things will sort themselves out.

Imagine being so ignorant of the world that you think the poorest won't always have the most children.

But wamyn are strong and independent. They don't need no stinking man.

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the poor will be STERILIZED faggot

Abolish alimony, introduce mandatory paternity tests.
Men aren't getting married because it's a become a really shit deal for them.

Yep, that my plan. We would have to wait 2 more decade thought

and it is already second thread i see today right after old one was archived

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>2 more decade thought
FUCK
Way too long.
Japan pls hurry!

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I am a nice guy, seeing my mum suffering under the hard work of putting frozen food into a microwave.... so I decided that I never wanted to be a "burden" to a woman.
In enjoy my paid off home, cars, toys, travels and the occasional escort half my age with the pure conscience that never a poor woman will have to wash my dirty socks or make me a sandwich.

Well, time to look after the ribs in the smoker and prepare some freshly made salad from the veggies in my garden.

Pic is wrong.

Men's work in porn in far from identical to women's. Men do all the pumping while women just suck a little, thus men should be paid more than women.

Men aren't toys
Men's affection isn't unconditional
stop being spoiled daddy girls

Unfortunately it is true. It is in the woman nature to follow a strong man. When men became women than the women became men. It is simple. To all that you can add the brainwashing propaganda but even with that devastating propaganda we can witness a lot of normal families with children today because the man is real Man and the woman follows. They respect each other and love their children. So basically it is mens fault for that.

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>Gotta blame someone, otherwise its all my fault. Fuck that

Ending divorce couldn't hurt ;3

It is kinda true.

Because the rule of thumb is that 18-30 year old men generally do not make even close to enough to raise a family? They could BARELY do it in the 90s, and everything is about 10x worse now, plus even more economic and political uncertainty than ever before. Who the fuck would want to have kids under these conditions? Protip, it definitely isn't most 18-30 year old men.

No user, you and I both know that isn't even remotely possible given our current political reality.

Universal basic income.

Yang2020.

It has always been like that. That's why you have to marry a 18 years old girl when you're 40.

haven't seen this one in a while.

There's no incentive for men to reenter society, and it has nothing to do with women, or rather... the cause has nothing to do with the woman question, the woman question is a byproduct.

When you know the odds of you ever owning a home are next to zero, when the odds of you making it through life debt free are next to zero, when you know that university is a scam at this point and there's nothing left to work for, that all your efforts in the end will amount to nothing because the system is designed so they will amount to nothing, when you have literally nothing to aim for but vidya and alcohol to pass the time until death, there's no reason to try, we've already failed.

At least it still proves that at the end of the day White Women still wants to marry Whites so there is still hope for you guys.

No. It’s women who “follow their dreams”

Maybe if women actually tried being interesting men would not be so easily bored by them.
Also the more millenial whores keep being young and wil and free the more will kill themselves once they see their male peers go for younger,subservient,modest and more interesting girls.

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Maybe the reason women have kids late in life is because they spend their 20s riding the cock carousel.

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If you're bored with women, what you're looking for is a foreign woman.

I dont think you get it, the average age for first kid has gone up by nearly 10 years in some western countries, for both men and women. This idea that 40 year old men pump out absurd numbers of kids is misleading, they definitely exist, but that man is still the outlier and has been for nearly a century or more. If this was 200 years ago you might have a better case, but the girl would be like 16 instead.
Just look at the changes in when people had their first kid in the 1960s to now, the change is pretty drastic when you consider how fertility is for women.

No.

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Just a sign of the times. Get ready for the solar maximum.

>Blaming men
come the fuck on, this thread again
sage it lads

Almost nothing. When men hit 30 and get great paying jobs with lits of free time, it makes no economic or social sense to spend that money and time on a woman who will lie, cheat, and steal then call in the state who will order you to give her everything you own.

Women are out of control. The whole mgtow thing is a meme. People aren't actively deciding to be mgtow, they just fall into it because the alternatives are hell on earth in comparison.

My grandfather was a WW2 vet and proud white man whose family came to the US in the 1600s, and he didn't get married or have kids until he was 45.

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higher wages and affirmative action that favours men

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MakeGirls dress nice and have fags teach them how to use make up also lower love age

Even foreign women have their downsides.
The true redpill is "grooming" a 17/18 year old into becoming a loving wife.

In Jow Forumsworld the 16 year old girl with the 38 year old neckbeard is pure and well adjusted while the 16 year old girl with the 16 year old boy is a used up roastie

Nice typical she creature gaslighting. We could remove females rights and chain them up.

Is this a pasta?
I swear i have seen this exact text word for word before.

Who listens to this shit it's the hoe ass woman

Well said.

Hear hear.

When did I ever say that?

You are correct in both counts.

Nice guy here. She says this now, but shell get tired of you regardless. Never be a nice guy, grow the fuck out of it yesterday.

This is unironically true though.

The older man probably wants to take care of her and have a family, the 16yo boy is just sex-crazed and wants to bust his load and move on

Post tits.

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in /leaf/world the 6 year old white girl with the 83 year old goatfucker is pure and well adjusted while the...

Stop the unregulated massive migrant invasion along the entirety of the Western world and stabilize the economy to once again be able to provide a living to the common man to be able to think about building his life and a family.
End unfair divorce and child custody laws that further alienate men from desiring to build a family and tie their life to someone else.

No amount of shaming or half hearted attempts to promote families will do anything while these underlying problems are in effect.
Trying to offset it with migration only worsens things as these people and their offspring are a net drain on the economy as your productive population continues to shrink.

Never said you did. Just said that's the consensus feeling here.
See

You already made this thread.

Typical. Yeah it's ALL mens fault. Get fucked.

This.

>What can be done to convince men to re-enter society?

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Projection.

Women never grow up to be mothers until later in life because they want to pretend to be professionals, when in fact, professional men absolutely crush the female competition. Stop pretending to be man and be a housewife with 3 children instead. Womens rights were a mistake and every western country is paying for this with low birthrates.

Between a child and desolate poverty in Islamized Germanistan in 2055 I choose working on my escape, and because I know what a great father does and awards his children (bless my old man) I'm not going to let myself get weighed down by children before I know I'm safe and set for the next 25 years to raise them. Plus, who needs older women when 24 y/o ones are available fresh every year?

Women never really grow up to even the mother role at all anymore.
Even guys I see trying to have a family have a wife constantly playing with her phone that can't even watch the kid(s) and needs to be taken care of just as much as the children once he gets out of work to feed them all, clean the house, clean the children, and set them all down for bed.

I dont give a fuck burn this earth

Look at that picture.
Pizza, beer, and vidya with your bros.

They want to replace it with infidelity, social media addiction, and HPV.
Modern women are shit and the only dudes who think otherwise haven't been in a relationship with one or met their wife in high school or some shit and get to look forward to that breaking down.

>hurr save the white race
Go bleach the third world if that's your goal, your children you have here will be forcibly brainwashed, turned into trannies, and you'll be paying the mother for the rest of your life for the privilege of putting your dick in her a few times.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. There is no positive for men getting into relationships in the first world.

Unironically give men a male only gendostate, promote male only spaces and keep women out

Had my first kid when I was 21 then my son at 24. Sure living is hard and I gotta be conscious of how much I stay at work because we usually can leave whenever otherwise I feel good. I'm not buying into the whole give my child the world shit. I was raised in an upper class life where both my parents together made around $300k+ a year while I'm only making $40k. My wife doesn't even work because daycare is a sham and my view of public school is its complete garbage. I felt like I never saw my parents because they worked too much and felt raised by the school system, friends, daycare and babysitters. I was certainly loved I guess but they tried buying it instead of giving me attention. Now I'm the type of guy that doesn't worry about money too much. I manage my small house. Have the ability to afford 2 decent PCs. A small out of state vacation per year. And I try to limit my work to 6-7 hours a day to spend more time with my kids. Although I feel like I'm never home from Nov-Feb because overtime is mandatory and its 12-16 hours a day.

Fuck the rules. Don't worry about economy. Find the right woman who will support you. All money can disappear tomorrow. It doesn't matter.

Nothing. 35 year old women with 100 dresses, 100 pairs of shoes, 100 sequinned cushions and 100 ex sexual partners is not what I consider family building quality female.

Let the blacks breed with them. I'm completely fine with that. I couldn't imagine a single thing I could talk to a woman about that interests me.
Inb4 gamer.
Nope last game I played was sonic in 1995 when I rented a games consul from radio rentals.
I am uni educated. House abroad, house at home. 44. 6ft 2, blue eyes, car from 2018 and a small boat harboured up in a south coast holiday town.
I'm a confirmed batchelor. Mgtow is the new term. I am not marrying a money grabber just to produce wage cucks for the upkeep of the next generation of females who want pet niggers.

Not for me. Women abroad and college whores/ escorts from out of town will do me.

You have to be an absolute asshat to get married in this day and age and an even bigger asshole if you have kids.

Then why can't the immature women writing these articles hooking up with the immature men.
They just want cum to breed wage cucks for the future and half his wealth so she can live with Tyrone.

This

Whoever makes these articles.

If the apocalypse happens and I mean this. I will hunt you the fuck down. I don't care if your 6.5 black and 400 lbs of muscle. If I have to choke the life lut of you with a bicycle chain even, I will. You fuckers are the sins of humanity. You're all cancer and shouls be ashamed of yourself.

You've got to be fucking retarded. Playing games, drinking beer and eating pizza is the pinnacle of living. Do you really want 21st century woman up in your ass? With feminism, and these contemporary political and thinking trends, women have turned into retarded automatons.

And also this pic related is the only way i intend to relate myself to women in this world

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You are so fucking wrong.
When I was younger I wanted a relationship and treated the girls I dated like gold.
Now I'm pushing 30 and I'd probably blow her back out in a bathroom stall and leave her with a fake name.
The myth that older men aren't just as depraved and sex crazed as younger men needs to stop, especially in our world today. That 40 year old dude has a 90% chance of having completely fucked sexual preferences and is probably attracted to cock and or anal sex.

Men are guilty. Again. Are women capable of taking responsibility to any extent?

Pretty sure it's on its way soon.

Based

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>When video games are more interesting than women, maybe women should grow up and learn how to be better people.

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I'm honestly still alive just to stock pile.

Sounds like a bunch of bitches that aren't being kept in line.

You say ,"bitch, put your phone up and watch the kid"

If they have a problem with it, you let them know who's in charge the next time you fuck, a la grudge fucking.

Any man who doesn't understand females are to be conquered is a cuck.

She does what you allow her to do.

She doesn't cook? Your fault.

She doesn't clean? Your fault.

She has a work husband? Your fault.

You either shape her into a great woman, or she bails because the heat is too hot and she can't handle it.

This should be established far before you have children... If she won't submit, know her place, and listen to you... Find another one

>The only wrench in this advice is most men aren't worthy of following anymore, and I can't blame a lot of women for not submitting to non-productive losers

PS you should never be okay not being the breadwinner

Your goal should be to have your wife at home tending to your legacy. (children)

You can't really keep someone in line who legally owns you and your assets, unless you are willing to murder them. At best they will let you pretend to.
Even the richest man in the world couldn't.

>I couldn't imagine a single thing I could talk to a woman about that interests me.
this tbqh. i go through the dating apps and no women i find i would like to have a coffee with. they just seem so vapid. i have my autistic hobbies and work to fill my time but i admit that i am not exciting due to to workload, but i'd rather be by myself than have meaningless chat.
small talk with the staff during my work time is ok, but that is just at a superficial level.

This.

The article is correct, just not as the author intends.

"Men" now are childish in the sense that, like little boys, their testes don't produce testosterone and they don't make sperm.

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Share your wisdom of cheap whores with us.

>dating apps
shit's so tiresome. We're expected to essentially be dancing court jester monkeys to keep their interest until they swipe on someone who does the act better. It will obliterate your self esteem if you rely on apps to meet girls.

Lots of people want to fuck them, just not have any sort of relationship with them

Imagine unironically buying into the boomer meme that video games stop young men from passing major life milestones and not their total economical deprivation thanks to real wage stagnation for the past 40 years. It's almost like participating in society and founding a family require someone to have disposable income instead of living pay check to oay check but let's just blame video games because it will keep you from facing the reality of the absolute economical pauperization of the current generation.

Kill all boomers.

>another recession
Ah shit, and I was just about to get my shekels back into the system.

>yes goy be terrified of women
They have a dog's instinct for weakness. Never forget how fucking hard these bitches fight to protect guys who literally beat the shit out of them.

This

nothing less than sexbots and artificial wombs, desu

Incorrect.

You must live with them, not get married first.

When you live with a person you find everything out.

You'll find out if you can influence her, direct her, and whether or not she completes the tasks you assign.

If your woman ever threatens to "take your shit" then you already have the "no go" flag raised

Maybe I'm seeing this from another viewpoint than you- I told my wife if I ever left her I'd still take care of her as long as she didn't have another man in the picture. Once another man is in the picture she's no longer my responsibility, but up until that point she is.

Call it what you want, she lives a good life - loves that she doesn't have to worry about anything but her duties, and lives a lifestyle her friends would kill for.

It requires YOU (the man) to generate more than enough resources.

That means you can't sit around playing Vidya all day, it means you have to go out and build the foundation you're going to hand off to your children to continue in the future.

Does this consider gay porn, too?