Chinese company making F-35 parts?! Embarrassing ‘discovery’ further erodes ‘Huawei spying’ hysteria.
After a Chinese company was found manufacturing circuit boards for the F-35 jet, the UK Ministry of Defense insisted there is nothing to worry about, rendering the fuss over omnipresent Beijing spies increasingly silly. Exception PCB, a Chinese-owned company based in Gloucestershire, England, manufactures the circuit boards that control the engines, lighting, fuel and navigation systems of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the most expensive weapons system ever made. While the UK’s Ministry of Defense insists the company is an established supplier to the defense industry and presents “no risk,” months of flogging the China-spying narrative have done their job, and UK media and politicians are up in arms over this “shocking revelation.”
“We have been completely and utterly naive about the role of China and it is only now that people are beginning to wake up,” former Tory defense minister Sir Gerald Howarth told the Telegraph, expressing concern about Chinese involvement in a classified defense program.
The 22 is better than the 35 in all metrics. the 35 is a forced meme.
Dominic Moore
exactly this, I worked as a consultant and saw a few F35 suppliers. It's just a huge shitshow. They spread the contracts out to literally all 50 states because politics and managing/integrating all that bullshit is practically impossible.
obviously I can't give specifics, but the fuck ups are mindblowing
Most of the threads about the f-35 are military intelligence obfuscation disinfo. Don't believe anything you read on about it positive or negative because it's most likely just there to confuse people intentionally.
Jaxson Wright
35 is an export plane meant to replace the F16. 22 is meant to be the USA's secret shitfucker that nobody else gets to have.
The F22 is also a really freaking old program, work started in the early 90s.
Tyler Robinson
>obviously I can't give specifics. Obviously >The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. >Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Not really the F35 can be upgraded by software updates. The F-35 also received iPhone-like software updates and patches that translate directly into added capabilities and improved performance in the physical world. Lee says that the aircraft’s software wouldn’t permit the F-35 to turn nearly as hard as its air frame allowed until just such a software update last year. In five to 10 years' time, the F-35 might look the same, but its performance will be almost unrecognizable.
Instead of needing a new jet in 30 years countries can just update the software in their F35s. In the long run these jets will save countries billions and billions of dollars.
> there's literally no incentive to make it good at all Keep thinking that though and praying that mongels from Russia come liberate you from the evil nazi merican government.
Adrian Davis
You are correct.
Connor Turner
that's what you'd want to believe but people already got arrested on Jow Forums.
Jacob Gomez
DLC scam Buying russian seems a better option
Aiden James
imagine being this dumb.
>oh yeah , i don't need to buy a new iphone , the updates just makes it faster. >how does it work ? duh , just install more RAM dude ! >oh , what's a new processor ? sorry i'm very dumb.
Brandon Bailey
A handful. Now think about how many have made claims about all sorts of things throughout the years. Highly unlikely that that user isn't a stinky sodomite
Michael Long
an awful lot of it is FPGA based. Military aviation is one of the huge drivers in the FPGA market, and the "software" for them costs a goddamn fortune to develop. It's a huge part of the cost sink of these modern aircraft
Levi Cox
This really is how it works. I've worked for multiple military contractors, and they've all pulled this same shit.
Tyler Hernandez
I don't have a laughing.gif vigorous enough to express how fucking honk honk this shitshow is.
Joshua Ross
It's not a scam that's why the thing was invented. It's why they're called the most advanced jets ever made. Plus the jet is incredibly sexy. Russian shills and faggots in the USA who hate the idea that spending money on the military is a bad thing would have the world thinking it's an ugly flying brick. Anyone with a set of fucking eyes knows that's total bullshit it just sort of shocking people still say it.
> Military aviation is one of the huge drivers in the FPGA market, and the "software" for them costs a goddamn fortune to develop. True; but we know this was designed to be a shit-show from the get-go; instead of using Ada —which was commissioned by the DoD— they went with C++, which is NOT suitable for avionics software.
> It's a huge part of the cost sink of these modern aircraft It is, but the advances in theorem-provers are making it a *LOT* less costly to make ultra-low defect software. The SPARK tools/subset of Ada is an excellent example of how advanced and usable these can be.
The *decades* old SR-71 is *WAY* sexier. The F-22 is sexier. Hell, I have an old Diesel Oldsmobile that's sexier — /because it works/.
The F-35 is a piece of trash, the politicians, bureaucrats, and military high-ups pushing it should be investigated for fraud, conspiracy to defraud the US, and Treason.
yeah dude , totally , you should keep spending on your military instead of spending on quality of life improvements for the people , you will totally not turn into a third world country soon.
Pointless expensive toy. I'd rather just have nukes and a bunch of politicians/top army fags ready and willing to push the red button.
Jordan Cooper
all the FPGA shit is done in VHDL iirc
the military loves VHDL for some reason, they've been on that bandwagon for decades
Jose Taylor
Sr 71 really isn't sexy it's just unique and very cool. The F22 is hands down the sexiest jet I have ever seen it's a 10/10 But the F35 is right below it. It's like a 9/10 nerdy girl terminator that loves you so much she'll kill someone a hundred miles away at the drop of a hat if you ask her to.
Michael Harris
>multi role vs air superiority >american education
Jason Robinson
Well making the planet unlivable isn't really an option I guess?
Jack Ramirez
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Owen Ross
Exactly. If it's not an option for you, then I just win.
Cooper Roberts
The development of these fighter jet "programs" are boondogle's for congress. Literally, there are companies in every state that are getting paid. There are so many interests that go into the program that the planes are shit.
Jose Perry
The thing that makes the F-35 Good is its expansive (also expensive) sensor suite that has incredible passive and active capabilities and threat detection.
It basically turns real life into ace combat. and then it can send all this information to any of its allies.
Jaxson Davis
>True; but we know this was designed to be a shit-show from the get-go; instead of using Ada —which was commissioned by the DoD— they went with C++, which is NOT suitable for avionics software.
You would think C would be a better choice since it would allow the programmer to go outside the limits of the software framework. Granted that could end up letting the jet do some type of maneuver that could snap the pilots neck but still.
Cameron Thomas
>rt
Leo Lopez
>all the FPGA shit is done in VHDL iirc VHDL is a "cousin" or perhaps 'descendant' of Ada: it grew out of the Very High Speed Integrated Circuit project and was based on Ada's syntax.
>the military loves VHDL for some reason, they've been on that bandwagon for decades VHDL is pretty solid — that's probably the reason that they like it — it's a lot harder to do stupid mistakes that you can do in Verilog.
>>Sr 71 really isn't sexy it's just unique and very cool. C'mon; it's sexy — remember the "groundspeed check" story?
>The F22 is hands down the sexiest jet I have ever seen it's a 10/10 Certainly in my top 5.
>But the F35 is right below it. It's like a 9/10 nerdy girl terminator that loves you so much she'll kill someone a hundred miles away at the drop of a hat if you ask her to. No, the 35 is that stupid highschool grad who thinks he's better than anyone else and won't learn anything when he gets hired because, obviously, he is just better than that.
>You would think C would be a better choice since it would allow the programmer to go outside the limits of the software framework. Yeah, that's in no way a good thing; especially in aviation SW. See annexi-strayline.com/blog/posts/2/ for a pretty good write-up someone did on the general subject.
>Granted that could end up letting the jet do some type of maneuver that could snap the pilots neck but still. No, you're more wrong than that: it could destroy the aircraft; it could leak the sensor or comms data; it could allow remote attacks (possibly control) by the enemy.
>F-35 hate thread >Parts of post not directly quoted from an article written with awkward English >www.rt.com >Meme flag Please go away you vodka sucking shill. How Jow Forums falls for this bait is amazing.
Joshua Stewart
YF-23 was pretty awesome; thanks for the pics.
Christopher Smith
It was. Too bad the MIC is top down corruption in Boomer form
If true, it wouldn't surprise me if they 'installed' some other stuff as well.
Elijah Myers
The F35 is the wizard of oz. Except behind the curtain is actually tech that blows china out of the water. I'm talking serious 40 years ahead tech.
Jackson Myers
Hey, be honest with me. Do you as a ruskie think that us burgers and you (when all the boomers are gone) could ever be real allies? Imo if we were, the world would be ours for the taking
Landon Rivera
If I recall the yf23 had all sorts of pitch oscillation issues and was incredible unstable.
Sebastian Barnes
Only at very low speed, which is irrelevant for combat
>If I recall the yf23 had all sorts of pitch oscillation issues and was incredible unstable. >Only at very low speed, which is irrelevant for combat >Uhhh very important during landing Landing isn't done in combat. Also, a significant degree of instability is needed for high-performance agility.
Chase Flores
You know jets do go slow sometimes they're not always going fast. Imagine it "Blue leader slow down lets sneak up on this guy, blue leader?" Guys ejecting because the jet went into some crazy twisting nose dive because it slowed down.
Juan Bailey
>>Imagine it "Blue leader slow down lets sneak up on this guy, blue leader?" Yeah, I was 11B qualified; "sneaking up" is something far more done in that line than in air-combat.
Air-combat stealth isn't.
Leo Sanders
So if you want it to use your old headphones you can just drill a hole in it next to the lghtning port?
Is there also a waterproofness app you can download to make it into a subarine?
Grayson Campbell
Guy clearly doesnt know what the f he's talking about. 99% of all sorties are non combat related coming and going and training. Low speed reliability is of paramount importance.
We have pretty much reached the limits of how far we can push manned air frames. Sorry I know that sucks but human beings are really not meant for mach speeds unless we invent dampening fields for the pilots we are at the limit. The good thing with the F35 is that its advanced electronics systems will allow the jet to be integrated with drone systems. So in the future we could see F35s that can pop out a few guardian lightcraft drones capable of doing out of the world moves and doing things like shooting lasers at incoming threats or even sacrificing themselves to protect the F35.
But either way we can't push manned jets much further without killing pilots.
>I see you easily fall for (((media))) lies. The liberal schools have history classes with history text books that teach the children alternative thinking and promote anti-racism thinking and ways to criticize or prosecute racists to remove them from their jobs and society.
It's clever. Decade after decade, by teaching the kids and grading the kids through examinations to be supporters of minority issues, they will eventually outnumber and shout down any crime statistics users. If done properly, school districts can reshape cities into being liberal or conservative centers of thought due to many school graduates tending to settle down near their home towns.
Picture is from a 1975 American History school text book showing how race doesn't matter in american historical events. Systematic racism was what stopped blacks from filling the role of Washington. Published in an article in Seattle Weekly.
Note that the NAACP is continually seeks to have a permanent seat on the school boards in order to have direct input in the education process of american K12 students.
> Do you as a ruskie think that us burgers and you (when all the boomers are gone) could ever be real allies? Definitely. We must eliminate all boomer commies, you should get rid of boomer democrats and “neocons”. And then we ought to destroy fucking Chinkland.
Nathan Peterson
>>> Do you as a ruskie think that us burgers and you (when all the boomers are gone) could ever be real allies? >Definitely. We must eliminate all boomer commies, you should get rid of boomer democrats and “neocons”. Aside from that time when Russia was co-opted by (((Russians))), Russia and the US have always been friends.
> And then we ought to destroy fucking Chinkland. I vote for instigating a China/India war — the incompetence might reach critical mass and the hilarious CF would be wondrous.
the F-35 is a multi role the F-22 is a air supremacy fighter
Carter Brooks
the Ford Class are the single most expensive per unit, but the money sunk thus far as well as lifetime cost the f35 blows it out of the water >And the GRF doesn't work either... its a first in class ship and its mostly software. they have everything worked out and what remains is the software specifically for the cat and arresting gear for the f35. getting it sorted for the AWACS and f18 senpai was top priority
Leo Thomas
>Do they also make it slower with each update? they had to, the RAM and engine heat shields cant handle anything over mach .86 for more than a minute gonna do very well against russian air superiority fighters going mach 2.2, 10000ft higher
Nathaniel Perry
>the F-35 is a multi role the F-22 is a air supremacy fighter the f-35 is a joke, with modernization the f22 does everything the f35 can do but better. the stovl and big deck carrier variants are crippled also so not very effective. have fun with your piece of shit jet, kike
Tyler Cook
That might be the case 80 years ago. The US had been robbed blind by decades of jewry
Justin Morris
Build something that lasts a long time, complain that it has a high lifetime cost.
Jordan Morales
Who cares? Everybody knows the US have flying saucers anyway.
Logan Mitchell
peep this discord /qh9rhq
Gavin Lee
Why not just make Them as good as they can be right now? Why wait?
Lucas Gray
>Build something that lasts a long time, complain that it has a high lifetime cost. unfortunately current estimates after real life testing are showing the airframe life to be 2-4000 hours instead of the required 8000 before rework, it was never even properly tested since they went straight from r&d to production, so expect it to be significantly higher
Owen Torres
You are such a fucking retard holy shit. The F-22 was more advanced than the F-35 since their inception. The F-22 was meant to replace the F-15, and the F-35 is more of a multirole export fighter meant to replace the F-16. Just shut the fuck up.
this, russia is lagging behind the u.s and nato in terms of capability and technology by atleast 20 years but prob more
Leo Nelson
the F-22 costs significantly more than the F-35, that's the whole fucking point of a high low mix. it is like arguing that the F-15 is better than the F-16 so there is no need for the F-16. >have fun with your piece of shit jet, kike name a single aircraft on the market that can directly compete with it? >inb4 Su-57 meme
Evan Brown
Based anti fuckup-35 poster Have a bump and fuck the MIC
Daniel Edwards
The quoted top speed of a F-35 is 1.6 mach, but that's only given out for 15,000ft It's real top speed is still unknown. The F-16 flew 2.6 mach but that was at 40,000ft Going down closer to sea level lowers your max speed.
Connor Stewart
He gets if for free anyway.
Joshua Young
>You are such a fucking retard holy shit. >The F-22 was more advanced than the F-35 since their inception. >The F-22 was meant to replace the F-15, and the F-35 is more of a multirole export fighter meant to replace the F-16. >Just shut the fuck up. yeah i know the difference between an air superiority and a multirole light/medium fighter i actually work in the military industrial complex, faggot f35 is a joke, the f35a is the only one that is truly "combat ready" to its requirements and even then it falls well short. china and russia can already get a weapons grade track on it from both their ground radars and jets. the airframe lasts 1/4 of its required flight hours. the RAM needs to be redone at the cost of millions after every combat mission. it's a scam and a waste of our tax dollars. lockheed is saying "lol just give us another 50 billion and well keep making them then fix them after the fact" and what i said about f22 vs f35 is still true regardless, it is better at the multi role role and can actually function as an air superiority fighter, which the f35 cannot.
the f35, even after dumping more billions and taking them offline to fix its deficiencies, would get absolutely wrecked by the su 30 or su 35, dont even have to bring up the su 35 were about 10 months away from them mass producing it with the correct engine. at least you're civil and attempt to make sense with your arguments
im guessing most of you have no idea what you're talking about and donf35 follow multiple sources about jet development on a daily basis. you can believe everything about the f35 that fox news and daily review have to say, and the things that have been made public in the last couple days are massive revelations, even though the DoD and Lockheed have known about it for over 3 years at this point >He gets if for free anyway. Yeah the best kind of fighter jet is a free fighter jet. they even make money off of them producing components
Brody Reed
>The quoted top speed of a F-35 is 1.6 mach, but that's only given out for 15,000ft >It's real top speed is still unknown. The F-16 flew 2.6 mach but that was at 40,000ft >Going down closer to sea level lowers your max speed. its probably a little higher with the thrust/weight ratio, we are always conservative with public numbers if you look at the news the last couple days though they have fought the f35b and f35c are limited to about half that, when they go any faster for over 60 seconds they have cooling failures around the exhaust shroud doing damage to the fuselage and destroying the RAM. they've known about this for over 3 years and Lockheed just wants a boatload of money to engineer a fix then a boatload more to take the planes out of service and fix them after the fact
Aiden Watson
>you can believe everything about the f35 that fox news and daily review have to say *you can't believe everything about the f35 that fox news and the national review have to say
Brayden Campbell
The F-22 was always had better engines, a better climb rate, a high top speed and was always designed with the idea that it would be a pure air to air fighter that would never be exported. You said it needs to be "modernized", speaks volumes about you. I don't give a shit where your work, I know a moron when I see one.
