A bitch invents a whole fictional universe and demands everyone disassemble it piece by piece just to bring them back down to baseline reality. A man STARTS with baseline reality.
So Jow Forums, do you qualify as a man!?
Here is the test
Fact: Immigration does not cause wage stagnation for anyone except for people without high school degrees. So teenagers and high school dropouts. That is only 15% of the country and their wages are only reduced by ~4%. That is the extent to the effect. Everything else is made up.
>Immigration does not cause wage stagnation for anyone except for people without high school degrees. So teenagers and high school dropouts. That is only 15% of the country and their wages are only reduced by ~4%. That is the extent to the effect. Everything else is made up. Except for the hordes of pajeets and chinks that get shipped over.
Mason Diaz
Can you demonstrate this 'fact' with data?
Gavin Lopez
Having more workers will always devalue the labor. I'm sure white doctors aren't getting paid as much as if we didn't decide to hand out jobs to poos with PhDs.
>White doctors getting replaced by poo poos with PhDs This. White doctors are becoming less and less. They will not go millions of dollars into debt getting an actual doctoral education just to get out and have to so shit work for shit pay, all the while poos can come over with their shit teir college doctorates and get paid the same. The entire system is gonna come crashing down soon
Jackson Perez
We are not talking about crime. We are talking about wage stagnation. Real men stick to the point without jumping topics to justify they bitch made hatred.
Nolan Flores
Not just drs. Nurses too. India Philippines, pickaniggah country....
Jordan Cooper
You clearly don't understand the concept of growth. Having more people competing for the same job without upward mobility lowers wages. Difference. THAT is what is happening with immigration.
Show a study that demonstrates H1B visas don't actually affect IT salaries.
The reality is that wages have stagnated for everyone except the top 1%. Then factor in constant inflation and you are actually now making relatively less every year.
Show me a study that does. The EPI listed the causes of wage stagnation and it is not caused by the immigrants.
Gabriel Phillips
>here is a true scotsman >no true scotsman... for fuck sake user >Immigration does not cause wage stagnation for anyone except for people without high school degrees. So fuck those who already live here, lets create a massive unemployed underclass, and take those other people from outside for granted and get them to work for even less than our minimum wage! >and they tell me the leftists who want open borders have a soft heart you're just a crooked piece of shit
Gabriel Moore
fpbp not cooking a mckike for tree fiddy
Aiden Gonzalez
Your fact is a blatant lie you dumb nigger. We'd be getting paid more right fucking now if it were true.
Liam Green
Those stats aren't really accurate though because being an illegal immigrant is recorded as a crime
Parker Miller
Well this is pretty gay.
Adam Sanchez
>Immigration does not cause wage stagnation for anyone except for people without high school degrees. So fucking what? A man protects his family, especially the weak.
A Jew emigrates to an already-built civilization and subverts it from within while pretending to care about the peasant population he is dooming to certain starvation and misery.
You're not a Jew, are you user?
Jaxson Thompson
>stole land from squatters If you have no structures and no government capable of defense then you have no land. You're a nomad. You did not ascend and you if you cannot defend yourself then that is your own problem. There was no theft. There was a long bloody war. If the South had won then the natives would have land today. Don't pretend to give a fuck. You spit on their memories more than the ancestors of their enemies.
Luke Richardson
Your study is conclusive that bringing in unskilled workers. So bringing in H1Bs will lower IT wages, no? Face reality, right? Middle class is being replaced.
Landon Cook
>Fact: Immigration does not cause wage stagnation for anyone except for people without high school degrees. So teenagers and high school dropouts. That is only 15% of the country and their wages are only reduced by ~4%. That is the extent to the effect. Everything else is made up.
what about people with non-immigrant work/student visas?
they're here, they're working, there are a lot of them. obviously they depress wages and dilute the value of american workers in their own nation.
even more concerning is the effect of immigration on existing social structures, groups, and allegiances. it's bad any way you look at it.
Zachary Harris
Nice try Schlomo.
Oliver Nguyen
>Berkeley No.
Benjamin Young
also this. a man doesn't take any shit from smelly negroes, spics, chinks, jews, or pajeets.
Jack Perry
>Immigration does not cause wage stagnation for anyone Objectively wrong according to basic labor theories. Explain to me why the strongest opponents of immigration until recently were the labor and trade unions
Tyler Harris
The problem is that facts can be produced to support either side of an argument in almost every case, hence it becomes a tool to subvert as the academic structures utililize. What is with the modern day obsession with dissemnating free thought? Take for instance gastrology and holistic medicines,over 2000 years of trial and error and observation, yet no scientific or academic studies until now, which have just proven what people have said the entire time. A theory cannot come into existence without first being conjured from a creative and educated standpoint. At one point in history, darwin was being called a retard because evolution went against existing data, it goes on. Fact is that if you see a lot of indian dudes being sex pests, nigs stealing, abos fighting, it tends to become your contextual understanding of the average behaviours of that demographic. A man does not exist entirely on facts, user, a man has morals and ideals, a rigid yet maleable understanding of the world within which he dwells, a man has the fire to conquer and grow, test waters and theorize. What you are describing, user, is an noc that will never make a lick of difference, because they cannot do more than peer review and recycle existing inferences. Fuck you.
of course it's wrong. people don't exercise common sense when it comes to immigration and other social issues, many of which, including immigration, should not be contentious in the slightest. common sense suggests that we should generally oppose immigration. middle class americans have no pragmatic reason not to, unless they're delusional lefties with a savior complex.
Juan James
4 percent is a lot to people that don't make much. Plus it's not factoring the cost of living going up.
Mason Thompson
there's no reason to suck up to immigrants/visa holders or be polite. they will not reciprocate unless you have the advantage. they don't even understand how or why they should. do not mistake them for reasonable people who think like you and i, they are not.
Lucas Jackson
they have nothing whatsoever to offer. they bring nothing to the table. they are here for fame and fortune.
Camden Edwards
Be honest, Jow Forums ! Would you like a Chinese-type government for the US/EU?
no. it's my civic duty as an american to defend our constitution and way of life.
Angel Miller
You are misrepresenting the findings of the EPI.
Logan Edwards
Here’s another fact that only a man can accept: nice source nigger
Ian Powell
No they do not. That goes against the facts. Economic growth means there are more people. They won't compete for the same jobs because new jobs will open up.
Asher Brooks
most white collar jobs are useless busywork to keep proles busy.
Ian Powell
I don't see how that is relevant. And that is not how the labor theory works. No economist thinks that. Only the politicians do.
Jack Harris
How so? Flooding the job market with people with specific credentials that you can legally charge less will be incentive for businesses to charge less for people with those credentials. Take Disney with the H1B visa as an example.
Hudson Rodriguez
Why? Do you like voting? Do you also like rainbows, unicorns and dildos? In Greece the best government we ever had, was one we didn't vote for.
In first place, your premisse is that people who don't like migration are worried about the economy. American patriots correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know economy is secondary. What is really is at stake is your PEOPLE.
OP dismiss the fact that this "muh economic state" is merely an excuse to dismantle white identity in historicaly white nations and create in their place Brazil 2.0.
don't be an ass. anyway, i'm morally and legally obligated to give you a .223 caliber lobotomy if you try to implement a CCP-like nightmare here in the states.
How about increase of taxes, loss of any semblance of a nation state and sovereignty. Once you realize there is no future for your kind to regain control, you will not have children, become apathetic and nihilistic about everything, and go extinct.
>They won't compete for the same jobs because new jobs will open up.
also this is bullshit. why don't they create all those "new jobs" where they are? because they need our wealth, communal resources, and our structure. ipso facto, they're stealing our jobs.
