The south will rise again!

Sherman was the single most overrated General during the war.

>Doesn't it get a little old posting Sherman for the millionth time?
Because all the Yankee Generals were garbage and he's the only one besides that drunk Grant that they remember.

As long as you stay south of Mason Dixon, and sign a mutual defense treaty.

ya'll let me have sum dat sheeet you huffin.....

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South was a failed country that don't deserve his existence. Keep crying fucking rednecks lol

>flag
My exacts thoughts.

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youtube.com/watch?v=hMpjR8JmdVY

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Fun fact that I discovered while reading about energy

The Confederate Navy saved the whale.

Confederate navy escaping the blockade would "privateer" . Basiclly Pirate northern vessels, sink them and take what ever commodity was on board to support themselves.

Not as easy as it sounds since they ( northern trading ship) could be anywhere -- second they could be faster , third they could be better armed and lastly --- you have to deal with the crew.

can't just kill them all, so you had a whole bunch of yankees now onboard you had to watch and drop off somewhere

as well they might have been transport crappy stuff like french furniture or pig iron.

Now who was -- a slow vessel -- was in a predictable spot, had lots of smaller ocean going boats that you could set adrift in, and had commodity you could trade in any port

Was a Yankee Whaling ship.

Also it was verry good to use to burn the ship when you left.

This made the price of whale oil for lamps sky rocket.

So the northerns looked for a substitute -- which was kerosene. But it was dirty and smelly and sooted --

But someone made the effort to clean it up through various processes

Became cheaper than whale oil by far -- and even after the war , whale oil never recovered as a oil for lamps --

The Southern Confederate Navy did more to save the whale than Greenpeace.

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>Venezuela calling anyone else a failed country

>As long as you stay south of Mason Dixon, and sign a mutual defense treaty.
A very reasonable statement for once.

OLD TIMES THERE ARE NOT FORGOTTEN

SOUTHERN BY THE GRACE OF GOD

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As a southern conservative rebel flaggots are almost more abhorrent and counterproductive as niggers and juice are subversive and evil

I don't see why not. My German ancestors fought for the South.

You're barely even white stfu. Yankees are infinitely better in all aspects than the Dixielanders. Just be glad you had someone to shut down your degenerate society before it got too corroded.

all the yanks in this thread are scared were coming for their qt jewess gfs

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LOOK AWAY, LOOK AWAY, LOOK AWAY, DIXIELAND

Is not my fault that the communists ruined my country.

Why do you post this flag? Did you save it from a previous thread?

Middle Tennessee checking in and reporting for duty.

Its not the south's fault that angry little incels ruined their country.

>Is not my fault that the communists ruined my country.
I can see liberals here saying this in the near future

>Just be glad you had someone to shut down your degenerate society before it got too corroded.
before you niggerlovers would've tried to corode it

way i see it the whole degenerate world is the eternal yankee's fault for he cannot keep his hands in his own pockets.

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Got another nice flag for ya.

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The South is unironically the most nigger loving part of the country, the amount of coalburners down here is disgusting.

Natürlich, aber die Mehrheit Deutschamerikanern haben für die Union geschlacht.

Can I join this thread even though I'm British? I'm sympathetic to the Confederacy.

>Bonnie blue
>Somalia

Thanks for letting all the niggers loose on the whole country. That really saved us from our degenerate society. Otherwise we may have actually sent them back to Africa after they were no longer useful to us.

>Southern girls are coal burners
I see you've never been to the South. The only coal burners down there are Northern transplants. Southerners are the most racially aware people in America.

A lot of Brits were, though I suspect it was the self-interest of seeing American power divided.

>before you niggerlovers would've tried to corode it
We're the niggerlovers? Listen Earl, we did not base our entire economy off of selling and buying niggers and making them work. America's biggest mistake was participating in the slave trade, we may have been initially poorer, but we would have had eventually much less trouble and that lost wealth would have been recuperated without having to pay for extra law enforcement, prisons, and welfare.

And no, we did not corrode your pathetic little society. You corroded it yourself with your infatuation with nigger pussy and being Baptists.

>way i see it the whole degenerate world is the eternal yankee's fault for he cannot keep his hands in his own pockets.
Lol ok. Do I need to remind you who needs to rely off of tax rebates by the federal government to fund their state governments?

IN DIXIE LAND WHERE I WAS BORN EARLY ON ONE FROSTY MORN'

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No, its from a battle in a town I drive through pretty regularly.

May I remind you who exactly brought the niggers here for a quick buck?

>Otherwise we may have actually sent them back to Africa after they were no longer useful to us.
You know that was never going to happen. You were always going to need cheap labor to sustain your economy and the nigger was always going to be necessary.

LOOK AWAY LOOK AWAY DIXIE LAND

thx

Dixieland, is where I want to make my final stand. I don’t care if I’m in a box or not when they lay me down, just bury me in Southern Ground.

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Slavery was rampant in the north and it was illegal to import new slaves under the CSA constitution faggot.

Hmmm, when do you think the slave trade ended Ernie? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't 1861.

>no background checks
w-wut?

North Carolinan here btw

If only the Liberia project had been a hundred times bigger

Oh, my family were Rangers in Co E of that regiment so I was surprised to see it

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British aristocracy supported the Confederacy, the public supported the north but that's why the opinions of commoners is irrelevant. There was also strong support from Scottish Presbyterians and from settlers in Ulster province NI, which is the only place slave plantations were legal in the British Isles.

The CSA made it illegal to import slaves before the Union
The slave trade never ended. It still goes on in other countries.

Yes, foreigners that are sympathetic to the South are welcome.

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So this is the power of Southern Education? Do you not even know your own history? The slave trade was abolished in 1808 by the United States, but nice try.

What if I live in Hawaii, But super love the south?

THE SOUTH ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A FAILED ARISTOCRACY THAT WANTED NIGGERS SPREAD EVERYWHERE AND WAS BIRTHED AS A DISGRACE AND A HYPOCRITE

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Even if we did keep them around I doubt we would have been dumb enough to give them citizenship and rights like you did.

We didn't do it because it was cheaper to make them pick cotton we did it because it was fun.

It taught them to act like people and then you niggerlovers decided that they are people and needed to have gibs n shiet so you could flood our prisons and empty our wallets because you were mad we didn't like you. So quit being so upset my great-grandfather buried 12 fuckers exactly like you and if you leave your jewish city prison and take one step on my lawn i'll bury you too. Quit winin' its not gonna bring your gay granddaddies back.

If you are also from Dixie County, I will kiss you on the mouth like a proper faggot. If you are south of Okeechobee, fuck off jew.

>Secession (1/2):
The idea of secession is nowhere in the United States Constitution and the Founding Fathers during the debates for the adoption of our now Constitution were against any form of secession. It is evident enough that creating a central government was the point of the Constitution and that the Articles of Confederation, which gave states almost complete autonomy, allowed for secession and showed weakness by allowing states to voluntary pay taxes and limited commercial and foreign affairs. Whatever your views on state sovereignty is it is evident that that the Founders did not propose any form of secession and the states herein would give their autonomy to the central government. This is shown with James Madison during his time garnering support for the Constitution during his tour around the states alongside Alexander Hamilton. “Compacts must be reciprocal, this principle would not in such a case be preserved. The Constitution requires an adoption in toto, and for ever. It has been so adopted by the other States. An adoption for a limited time would be as defective as an adoption of some of the articles only. In short any condition whatever must viciate the ratification” (teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-james-madison-22/). When Federalists were in New York and New Yorkers found out that New Hampshire and Virginia voted ‘yes’ on adopting the Constitution they asked for a compromise to allow states to secede, the federalists rejected the compromise, making it clear this was not meant to be a compact among states: "a reservation of a right to withdraw" was "inconsistent with the Constitution, and was no ratification." (founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-05-02-0012-0099).

>Secession (2/2):
James Madison later reiterates that nullification and secession are not constitutional but revolution is: “I return my thanks for the copy of your late very powerful Speech in the Senate of the United S. It crushes "nullification" and must hasten the abandonment of "Secession". But this dodges the blow by confounding the claim to secede at will, with the right of seceding from intolerable oppression. The former answers itself, being a violation, without cause, of a faith solemnly pledged. The latter is another name only for revolution, about which there is no theoretic controversy.” (press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch3s14.html) (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States)

>The Kentucky and Virginia Resolution:
Another argument in favor of nullification is the Kentucky and Virginia Resolution laid out by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, respectively. In these speeches they both lay out that the states have the right to nullify a law if it is deemed unconstitutional, where they differ is the Jefferson interpretation; Jefferson interpreted that if it is deemed unconstitutional, a state should not only reject it, they have the right to openly rebel from the Union and secede since his interpretation is that the Union is a compact among states. Madison, on the other hand, did not view it that way and regretted that his words were used out of context. Madison proposed that if a law is unconstitutional, a state should nullify a law through Constitutional means, such as amending the Constitution or sending representatives and asking their senator to repeal the law, not openly rebel, Madison even reiterates that the Union is not a compact, it cannot be seceded from (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_and_Virginia_Resolutions). Even George fucking Washington saw these resolutions as a danger to the union: "systematically and pertinaciously pursued", they would "dissolve the union or produce coercion" (founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-03-02-0225)

Only if you help us kill niggers and Nazis

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>Nullification:
Nullification appears nowhere in the Constitution. Every Supreme Court decision throughout our history has voted against both of these time and time again and as I have just pointed out in the secession argument, James Madison was completely against it. The concept of nullification was not discussed at all during the Constitutional Convention and only a federal judge could declare a law unconstitutional. Not to mention the supremacy clause of the United States stating federal law is the supreme law of the land. "But it follows, from no view of the subject, that a nullification of a law of the U. S. can as is now contended, belong rightfully to a single State, as one of the parties to the Constitution; the State not ceasing to avow its adherence to the Constitution. A plainer contradiction in terms, or a more fatal inlet to anarchy, cannot be imagined" (founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/99-02-02-3190). (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_(U.S._Constitution)). There is plenty of proof of the south picking a law to use the nullification argument in favor of states’ rights for but for others they remain silent, when the Tariff of 1828 and 1832 took place they cried foul and demanded a repeal but when the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 passed, forcing the federal government to return slaves to the state they are from, they didn’t utter a fucking word about the rights of other states to oppose that law. In fact, they’re not the only states to use nullification, Wisconsin and Vermont have used the argument of nullification too during this act. More importantly, why didn’t the south just declare secession during the Nullification Crisis when Andrew Jackson told them that nullification was unconstitutional?

>States’ rights (1/2):
The South seemed to have this view that there was a compact when proof showed otherwise and that the states had the right to secede and be their own country, which has been shown otherwise. Whenever the federal government expanded slavery the south did not care, but whenever the federal government wanted to limit slavery and remove it from the new territory, all of a sudden states’ rights mattered. “Between the slave power and states' rights there was no necessary connection. The slave power, when in control, was a centralizing influence, and all the most considerable encroachments on states' rights were its acts. The acquisition and admission of Louisiana; the Embargo; the War of 1812; the annexation of Texas "by joint resolution" [rather than treaty]; the war with Mexico, declared by the mere announcement of President Polk; the Fugitive Slave Law; the Dred Scott decision—all triumphs of the slave power—did far more than either tariffs or internal improvements, which in their origin were also southern measures, to destroy the very memory of states' rights as they existed in 1789. Whenever a question arose of extending or protecting slavery, the slaveholders became friends of centralized power, and used that dangerous weapon with a kind of frenzy. Slavery in fact required centralization in order to maintain and protect itself, but it required to control the centralized machine; it needed despotic principles of government, but it needed them exclusively for its own use. Thus, in truth, states' rights were the protection of the free states, and as a matter of fact, during the domination of the slave power, Massachusetts appealed to this protecting principle as often and almost as loudly as South Carolina.” (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States'_rights).

>Even if we did keep them around I doubt we would have been dumb enough to give them citizenship and rights like you did.
Yeah no, the minute an ounce of external pressure was placed upon you, like what happened to S. Africa, you would immediately capitulate. You were just motivated by money simply, so when that dried up legal slavery or segregation or whatever would have ended.

>States' rights (2/2):
The South says Lincoln wasn’t on the ballot in any of the nine southern states, making his election null and void. Except Lincoln, after constitutionally winning by winning the electoral votes needed to win, won. The south claims that Lincoln’s constitutional victory was unconstitutional. At the time, you needed 152 electoral votes to win an election, Abraham Lincoln won 180 electoral votes. His opponents won 72, 39, and 12. As we all know, you get more electoral votes and representatives in Congress depending on the population of your state plus the two senators. We also know the majority of immigrants did not go to the south and instead flocked to the north where there was actual work. This gave the north more representatives in Congress and slowly the representatives for the south diminished as little to no immigrants went south. The south also declared independence on the most trumped up charge: That Lincoln was going to free the slaves for good except Lincoln ran a campaign stating he did not want to end slavery, he just wanted to stop the spread of slavery in the new territory, he even talks about it in a speech stating that that territory was for poor whites to build themselves and create wealth, that the western portion of the nation and the nation as a whole is for the white race. You can read it here: nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/peoriaspeech.htm

>Confederate Constitution:
The Confederate constitution did not have any provision for states to secede: “The Confederate Constitution did not specifically include a provision allowing states to secede; the Preamble spoke of each state "acting in its sovereign and independent character" but also of the formation of a "permanent federal government". During the debates on drafting the Confederate Constitution, one proposal would have allowed states to secede from the Confederacy.”, the Confederate constitution called for the end of the slave trade BUT they still wanted to keep slaves and if they got more territory they were going to expand slavery into those territories: “The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several Sates; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery, as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected by Congress and by the Territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.” Which means they definitely would have given birth to plenty of new niggers all across North America. It also said that no law barring slavery could be passed “No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.”, the constitution also had a Supremacy clause just like the United States Constitution so there was no point in the nullification debate in the end. (undergod.procon.org/sourcefiles/Constitution_of_the_Confederate_States.pdf)

>Contradictions:
The Confederate States said the states had the right of nullification yet kept the Supremacy Clause in their constitution, they called for states’ rights to secede but added no provision for them to do so, the Confederate government said that the Union was filled with bureaucracy yet had more people working in their federal government than the one they just seceded from and had a stronger federal government during the war, they said the north was a militaristic tyrant yet passed the first conscription law in North American history, they say the north was money hungry but created a national currency, the Confederates said the north was suppressing the first amendment but did it just as much as the north, had troops patrolling almost every inch of their territory, and they had a domestic passport system so someone from one state couldn’t just go into another like they do in the US. “Civil liberties were of small concern in North and South. Lincoln and Davis both took a hard line against dissent. Neely explores how the Confederacy became a virtual police state with guards and patrols all about, and a domestic passport system whereby everyone needed official permission each time they wanted to travel. Over 4,000 suspected unionists were imprisoned without trial.” (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America#Unionism)

Navy Jack looks like the EU flag.

>Abraham Lincoln:
Now we get to the bread and butter of it all: The Great Emancipator. Funnily enough the Emancipation Proclamation only freed southern slaves and this was planned ever since Lincoln took office to bring the Southerners back into the Union. It was a threat under the Confiscation Acts of 1861 and 1862 that if the south did not surrender, then the north would free southern slaves. Lincoln did not want to extend slavery, Lincoln wanted to ship slaves back to Liberia, Lincoln wanted to preserve the union no matter what whether if the slaves were free or still enslaved or if some were free and others were slaves. All Lincoln cared about was preserving the union, period. Lincoln believed the United States was a country for white people. Lincoln believed that whites were the only race that should be in the United States. Had Lincoln not done what he did then Great Britain and France would have definitely joined the war and destroyed the American continent forever. Here is one pro-slavery unionists views on the Civil War, a man named Sam Houston who gained independence for Texas from Mexico: (civilwarcauses.org/houston.htm)

Test

As a southerner youre kinda fucktarded, refer to the other guy's response.

Thats really cool! One ancestor of mine who died in the civil war died in Monterey VA (i drive through WSS to get there) the grave is just another sunken pit in a field of many. It'ts unmarked but you can see where all the coffins have fallen in. Pretty comfy vibe when I see all the sunken pits marked with Confederate flags for Memorial day. Wish i had a pic.

That is the first time I've heard about that act. I knew Jefferson and a lot of others wanted to make it illegal to import more, free everyone born after a certain date, and deport them though. I think the reason no one knows about it is that it wasn't enforced. There were at least 50,000 new slaves imported afterwards.

YYou WILL see the South break off in your lifetime, and califags get the rope by way of edict.

Saved with a hearty kek

your meme is wrong, it was never northern virginia flag, always alabama battle flag.
stop larping,.dont you have western ukraine to deal with ivan?

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>We didn't do it because it was cheaper to make them pick cotton we did it because it was fun.
>We polluted our country for fun
I know this is an untruth, but still, this is even more pathetic than if you did it for monetary gain.

>It taught them to act like people
Yeah, that went swimmingly.

>and then you niggerlovers decided that they are people and needed to have gibs n shiet so you could flood our prisons and empty our wallets because you were mad we didn't like you.
No, because you succeeded because you were butthurt your candidate did not win and then proceeded to attack us. Of course we're going to fight back, we did not care about slavery, hence why we did not prohibit it until 1865. We just ended it because we wanted to punish you and it would help us win the war.

> if you leave your jewish city prison and take one step on my lawn i'll bury you too
You're probably a 500 pound opiate addict living out of his trailer in rural Tennessee, I doubt you could do anything without suffering a stroke, but perhaps your wife/cousin could.

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Sh-shut up, Yankee.

We only changed our views on race because of the civil rights movement. Before then it was common sense to all white Americans that we were supposed to be a white country. If the South had more control over our state's laws instead of being forced to desegregate by the federal government the civil rights movement may not have had the same impact it did.

Are you retarded or something?

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I know preggo Anne Frank fanfic is a Confederate meme and all, but nationalism = good

>Scottish Presbyterians and from settlers in Ulster province
I imagine ethnic kinship had a lot to do with it as well.

It was mildly enforced, since it was up to the states to enforce it, which some states did strictly and others outright encouraged it (like Louisiana and South Carolina). There was a Supreme Court case, United States v. the Amistad which held that any slaves taken into the country after 1808 were not slaves and were to be released, but of course this was never enforced as well.

Yes.

>If the South had more control over our state's laws instead of being forced to desegregate by the federal government the civil rights movement may not have had the same impact it did.
Yeah you're right, instead we'd get a flood of niggers northward and that could never be allowed to happen.

It is surely country worth dying for out there, that is for certain. Need to get back onto Pocahantas and wetsern Virginia.
I never understood the Cause until I visited the former ancestral farm overlooking the Ohio and Parkersburg and saw what was taken from them. Sacred geography.

Nigga have you been to Henry county GA

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>People who successfully seceded were against the concept of secession.

Alright.