/Anarchism/

Let's have a serious thread discussing anarchism.

It's by far one of the ideologies that get the least discussed here(not counting an caps)

>Are you an anarchist
>Opinion on anarchism

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Anarchy is prerequisite to establishing a national socialist state. Anarchy is just a power vacuum, a state of transition.

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Based

The Spanish Civil War debunks anarchism single handedly.

Get off my board you poor faggot

No

give this thread a Bump while we discuss

we can discuss any posts made in my thread from the other day

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>Authoritarian
>degeneracy

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I see it this way as well.
Humans tend towards order within societies. Order creates hierarchy which, even if anarchy was the transition between states, ultimately becomes another system.

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Anarcho-Capitalism is unironically the only type of anarchism which could work for a relatively long term, but it would end up as some sort of a corporate feudalism with maybe higher social mobility.

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we got one
Money is an illusion created by Satanists. The concept is designed to control and limit access of people to energy

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Anarchists are parasites who seek to benefit from in-group commons production without contributing themselves. Without rule of law, it is more profitable to deceive and steal than to cooperate fairly. Anarchism would lead to a nation of thieves, which means the death of Western civilization.
Fuck off to Somalia if you want to LARP as pirates.

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Sounds pretty much like the US today.

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I wish I could kill people without consequence

>Money is an illusion created by Satanists. The concept is designed to control and limit access of people to energy
Mental

since you said the thing that pussies say... ill dump the slides that were MADE FOR YOUR SCARED BITCH ASS WITH A DEAD IMAGINATION AND A DEAD SOUL

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Unironically this.
Anarchists were basically oportunistics that didn't like either side nor were liked by anybody either and spiraled into a bacchanal of disorder.
The idea is alright but it clearly doesn't work. The more organized a society is the more powerful is its grip and easy to spread, which dooms anarchists by default.

Anarchists are simply terrorists with a cool looking symbol.

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I'm not an anarchist. And I think anarchism would be perfect, if we were all angels. Since, we aren't it can never be attained. In Greek anarchism (Αναρχία, anarchia) translates too leaderless and it's supposed to be the end-game of a perfect society.

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Based Greeks,always ahead

Yeah... Those fuckers though of everything. How do people expect us to live up to them?

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I cant find Marks continuation of this quote. You are almost there.

It's basically Marx's idea of a Communist state. Anarchists are retarded because they don't realize greed is a natural human feeling and that a form of hierarchy would form regardless of whether the region was stateless or not.

"author"ity

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>they don't realize greed is a natural human feeling
Greed is actually completely unnatural when we have abundant access to energy

You are under heart control right now which means most likely you are under mind control. See this presentation

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and this one

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And resources are finite you retard, which is why you need a state to regulate goods, especially if you live in a society with millions of people. Why the fuck should I have to share my goods with a useless piece of shit like you

You lost me at “serious discussion”

I am an anarchist.

Anarchism is just a lens to view the world
There is no Anarchist country or Anarchist Utopia. Anyone who says that "Anarchism doesn't and work and fails" is a statist projecting their views. It is the voluntary interaction between individuals. It can have a left or right economic component.

>anarchis-

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>retard doesn't know about Nestor Makhno and Ukraine
Anarchy has been tried and is partially responsible for turning Ukraine into a shithole

Have you read Orwell's book on the Spanish Civil war? I think it was a pretty good case for Anarchists holding their own. Of course the collective failed against the nationalists when the Germans stepped in, but in terms of small scale civil war it was doing well.

Who enforces anarchism?

anarchism creates a power vacuum that despots battle to fill. it’s the simplest way possible of turning a society into a burning wreck.

>That font
What are these slides? They look like the shitty infographs that Jewish conspiracists use and I'm having a difficult time reading it.

Join the government ;^)

>And resources are finite you retard,
No they are not. We have access to INFINITE energy inside a finite boundary condition

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Anarchy mostly means the absence of a semi private state controlling things behind courtains. There will still be a hierarchy, there will be borders, and possibly a small state. Small representative repubics or city states could be considered anarchist states. All memes aside, anarchy could work in small places with homogeneous population, otherwise it will be a transition state as other user has pointed out.

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>Anarchism is just a lens to view the world
Anarchy is the Law of God.
When we steal we are punished by nature itself. There are rules of morality and physics engrained into reality itself which are immutable.

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>energy
I was referring to GOODS you illiterate piece of shit. Things like food, clothing and fresh drinking water are not finite resources and would eventually run low if not regulated properly. Not to mention Anarchy is stateless meaning no one would enforce any laws. How to you expect to live in a lawless society and get along with everyone?

Thanks for the laughs user

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>Look at this place that said they did something.
>It obviously is a failure everywhere.

It's just people living their lives by their choice. If a group of people want to start an anarchist community they can. They can try to run a state, but that means that they will have to voluntarily follow people and create hierarchies. You could maybe have a town that is filled with anarchists. You could maybe have a small region. You can't create an anarchist nation. It's an oxymoron

watch the presentation then. There is this one too which speaks more in depth about choice and morality instead of dialectics which people fall prey to

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The individual.

>completely ignoring the point
Why do retards like you constantly deflect? You said anyone who stated Anarchy doesn't work and always fails is a statist that is projecting your views and when I gave an example of when Anarchy was actually tried and failed, you proceeded to project your own views you hypocrite

>I was referring to GOODS you illiterate piece of shit.
are you so insane that you think that energy is not what GOODS are? You absolutely are under heavy illusion if you do not understand that we have access to infinite GOODS when we destroy the prohibition of technology which spreads the ability to supply resources to the population.
Watch the fucking shit I gave you. Stop being a retard you are immortal

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I don't know about any of that. There are consequences to actions. I don't steal because I don't want to. I don't treat people like shit because then I'd develop a reputation and that has consequences.

Now if I'm alone sitting at a red light and it's late at night I'm going to run it. The state says that it's illegal. It's supposed to be illegal because it's "bad" to run red lights. Yet, in that moment, I know more about the situation than the state. I am making my own choice and accepting consequences. That is an anarchist decision. People make these types of choices all the time. People are Anarchists from time to time, but don't realize it.

>he thinks goods are infinite without regulation
There is nothing stopping me from stabbing you in the throat while you sleep and stealing everything you own. You can preach about your baseless speculation all you want but you know you can't actually enforce anything without some form of state

Anarchism can only work in a spiritual or religious setting. Daoist priest in China in the 12th C made a pretty good go of it. Can't work without a common spiritual framework though.

Its a cult that does ritual human and animal sacrifice in order to serve entities which include that of the sun, moon, stellar objects and whatever beings these faggots ancestors were turned into psychopaths by

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No.

Anarchy as a system is paradoxical. At what point does "Anarchy" end? Obviously under Anarchy someone will have the power of resolution because competition is inevitable and the biggest fish in the pond is a relative ideal, so at what level of structure does it stop being "Anarchy"? It's not like it can be enforced, because in that case the body enforcing it is that fish so it's do as they say not do as you want.

The idea is nonsense. Anarchy is a concept, not a position.

I'll look it up. Are there still anarchist conventions? Went to one in OKC and miss the community of like minded people.

I'm just waking up and don't want to deal with your shitty attitude. I do promise I'll look it up later.

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>I don't know about any of that.
you should learn then user

start with this one for a speed course that is so packed you wont begin to realize it until weeks or months down the road
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also i made this thread for people who want a shitload of content

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It fails to prevent nonwhites from entering and abusing their freedom. Can never work unless the world becomes totally homogeneous, which will never happen.

Anarchy is a nigger fantasy.

A structure isn't anarchy. Anarchism is the belief that things like God and Government do not exist. It's like atheism for the state. It's realizing that there isn't an omnipotent and omnipresent being that we have to appease. That the individual can make their own choices. You are right it is a concept. I think the problem comes when people assume it is a political party that is trying to gain control of territory. You could be an Anarchist in any type of governmental model

Yes there is actually. Because you were born a human you have something call "Heart based intelligence".
However through enough childhood and even adult trauma... you can lose that connection and become totally entranced into illusory beliefs in things that are creations of satanic think tanks. Like money

quit being a total faggot. Start with this one since you think you are a masculine person
I know the truth about you... You are a coward and dont want to even consider fighting the enemy

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Modern niggers need the state. They also legitimize the need for the state. The welfare, Medicaid, prison system all require taxation and police enforcement. This is why everyone here fantasizes about DOTR. The day that the state loses the abilty to enforce the status quo.

Grow up and get a job faggot.

>being this blissfully ignorant
You want to live in your Anarchist fantasy world because you can't accept that the world and humans aren't as nice as you think. Reality cuts deep after all

It's also ironic that you posted this when you also admitted you have no idea who Nestor Makhno is

>Are there still anarchist conventions?
just made a thread for Anarchadelphia. I think I might go since im an hour away

>Anarchism is the belief that things like God and Government do not exist.
wrong. Anarchists believe that we are granted rights by our creator at birth and those rights can not ever be taken away.

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That guy seems pretty based, desu. Props to him for trying to carve out his own sovereign land at that time in that place.

Except humans don't support your beliefs faggot. You idiots cannot grasp the simple concept of greed because you think everyone is going to magically get along in a stateless and classless society.

So how much of a retard are you going to feel when I have a slide for the thing that you just said I dont understand???

The reality is that you dont even fucking know what money, energy, or spirit are. Luckily for you I left you two people who will lead you to very fundamental information to dispel the illusion you still are entranced by.

You got it wrong user. Listen to me. Fucking clock my ID and read every single post and look for the links or presentation slide titles.
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Or just start at episode one and get back to discussion in a year

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Are you retarded? He aligned with Stalin and the Red Army, which were his and Ukraine's enemies to destroy the White Army, which mainly consisted of anti Bolshevik citizens that were against a regime change and didn't want another world war to break out, but Makhno's army helped slaughter those innocent civilians, some of which were Ukrainians that he swore to protect. The faggot also got banned from the country and died of TB

>Our creator
>Natural law

Yeah, I don't follow. I have no evidence for a divine creator. It was atheism that led me down the path of Anarchism. Just because there are churches, priests, and worshippers doesn't mean that there is a God. Same goes with government. Just because there are people that go into a big marble building and men with badges doesn't mean that there is such a thing as govenrment.

>all this speculation
Friendly reminder that an Anarchist society would be lawless as you need a form of state to enforce laws. Nothing is stopping someone from killing you. That and most people are incapable of living on their own so a form of hierarchy would be created, which would also defeat the purpose of an Anarchist society

What does that even mean? How does the Government not exist? Physically? Anybody will tell you it doesn't physically exist, it's a social construct. If you mean the government is illegitimate, then that's not a position you can hold for the same reason "sovereign citizens" don't get to pass through borders willie nilly. The government isn't an intrinsic part of you, it's something that people will DO to you. Your beliefs on the matter are meaningless and not what dictates behaviour in the instance.

Obviously nobody lives life the way "non-Anarchists" do. They don't see somebody do something that doesn't go against their values but report it to the state immediately because, despite the fact that they agree with the event that occured, it's against the law.
They avoid partaking in such activities simply because of consequence but that's not something exclusive to the citizen/government relationship in the slightest, that's a facet of every single relationship. Nobody "appeases" the government because they want to because that's not how the government functions.

What is the point of this word that only seems to exist to justify it's own existence? What is it we call the opposite of your Anarchist?

>Atheism led me down the path to Anarchy
Of course it did. You are a stereotypical leftist faggot

>Except humans don't support your beliefs faggot.

You have no idea how much of a little person you sound like to me. You are like a little baby who doesnt understand jack shit about what objective reality is and how we are shown the way to behave and instead willfully refuse the correct guidance of those before us.

Its all available and not very hard to access. Check it out faggot.
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no
it doesn't work
fuck off edgy kid

>. I have no evidence for a divine creator.
Yes you do. Its called creation.

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