Taxation is theft, change my mind

Jews are thieves, prove me wrong?

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>pickle posting on Jow Forums
Your post is theft

You need food even as a vagrant. You buy food you are paying tax

service are provided in exchange for the tax money

>rob a man at gun point
>give him a lollipop
>not robbery anymore

Not repaying your debt is theft

1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN

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How else do you pay the military that keeps you safe? Constant wars and allowing them to rape and pillage everything?
Go live in the wilderness like a fucking savage if you don't want to take part in the civilized world, you fucking primate.

Good thing californians who dont pay for health care will soon pay for illegal peopls healthcare

Yeah its theft

Pay your fuckin taxes bro.

eat out the trash like other vagrants. Its a "choice" just like paying rent and having a job.. right

In the words of Andrew Yang, fuck Amazon. They have to pay for our NEETbux.

found the jew

If you don't want to be taxed, then work within the system of the society you were born into through no fault of your own and leave. Go to a better society, one without taxes.

privatizing everything is theft but the righteous doesn't care about that

how can a nation function without taxes ? how will it pay for schools, hospitals, roads and other services ?

Rome was civilized without taxes.

said the communist

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>I’m 12 and a centrist because I’m edgy, the post

private companies, free market will meet the needs if they exist.

unrv.com/economy/roman-taxes.php

That’s a felony. Read Walden.

You misspelled clown user

Just move somewhere with no taxes :^)

Taxation is theft only if rents are theft. You exist within the violence monopoly that the state provides. You live in a land protected and serviced by the state. As such you have to pay for it. Have a problem with that? Well don't pay taxes then. They're purely voluntary. Just move to Somalia or some other hell hole. You won't be paying taxes then.

Taxes are purely voluntary.

Then how come the west has high taxes and abundant things while states like Somalia or Greece do not collect much taxes and are shitholes

uh let's see

charity and church takes care of schools and hospitals. who needs other services - if you can't afford those services from corposyndicalism then you shouldn't be alive. things will be more efficient this way

who will protect the people from private companies exploiting them and who will protect the private companies from angry people? also who will supervise the work done by private companies, and what will poor people do?

then dont pay taxes and go live in the woods.
what? you want to have all the benefits of state but dont want to pay for anything? who is a thief now

Must crush capitalism

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Nice try, Schlomo.

>charity and church

you can remove yourself from this discussion now

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>borrow money money from someone else while promising to pay it back
>dont pay it back
>not theft
usury on the other hand....

If you dont like paying for my house than you can get the fuck out of my country whitey.

giving away all the government revenue streams to private owners so now everyone else has to pay more taxes is theft by our own politicians. but people still vote for them

its true, in many places (not all places) the homeless are criminalised in various ways, but it is still true that could make the choice to be homeless in many places, even if it was actually illegal. The difference between you and society is that generally people don't mind paying taxes for stability in society, the problems arise when the taxes are (always) misspent because capitalist "democracy" is run by capitalists, who have a difference class interest to most people.

Ad hominem is not an argument. Not only that but it isn't even ad hominem. Nice hysteria, kid.

Might makes right. You're paying your protection fees.

How about you actually address his post with some substance instead of jew-cusing?

The owner of the rental property gets their property stolen by the government if they don’t pay property taxes. Damn, commies are really fucking stupid.

You've never gone food shopping. Not all food is taxed.

Consent too you low iq bellend. You signed a social contract. If you don't like it then move to a country where it isn't enforced that strong

Government debt is theft. Private market debt is a voluntary act.

The problem is in interest, in the terms we are speaking, about state power and the economy and so on, debt and debt with interest are basically synonymous

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it's not. people consent to it
if not then why is there no revolution against unfair taxes?

the property owner can only charge rent on the property because the state enforces private property you absolute fucking penis

It's actually not really voluntary, you need a home to survive (rent) and you need to work a job to pay for that rent.

You shouldn't be concerned that taxation is theft, what we should really be concerned about is how much of our labour value is extracted from our wages, if anything that is more of a theft than taxes.

>charity and church
nahhh, charity aint gonna enough for thing like schools or hospitals. And not everyone is a saint and donated to charity organization,....so ya, no
i support accessible school for the massive, and the only thing to archive it is through taxation

lol roads
easy btfo, next please

...no, they're not. A 'debt' with no interest is always the same fixed value, while debt with interest added will continue to balloon larger and larger until you either pay it down faster than the interest rises, or you're crushed under the rising interest and go bankrupt.

but the state doesnt enforce unless you pay taxes

please read this book.

There is a reason usury is banned in the bible. Always it is cloaked as voluntary, but if you do not work you should not earn, or you become a parasite, if that is allowed, parasitism is allowed to grow and comes to rule, i.e. wall street and all other (((internatinal finance)))

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Yeah. Who needs roads, electricity, infrastructure. Fuck you dumb ass.

the capitalist have stolen so much that all there is left is government

It is theft, nothing to change here. Doesn't mean we shouldn't have it though.

There is someone being robbed in a theft.
Who would even be robbed here? Is this some kumbaya bullshit about land ownership being spread over humanity?

>signed a social contract

How retarded are you? I didn't sign shit. I have to pay effectively more than half my income in taxes by virtue of being born here. There is no contract you idiot.

>communist invoking religion
the state of first world communism

i agree with you, the first kind is not bad and is necessary for society to function, the second is extremely bad, all i was saying was I using them interchangably because for these kinds of discussion the second kind are the most economically significant

private toll roads
easy BTFO, next

Taxation is theft unless you live in an ethnostate.

You can literally leave at any time. Unless you're American and then you have to pay.

You're agreeing to the terms just by refusing to get out.

You didn't choose to be born where you were, but you can choose to get up and leave and go to a place that is more suitable for you.

All can be funded privately where needed. It would be more efficent too

How do you enforce private property laws without a tax-funded institution?

nice one, looks like big daddy corporation is now the government taxing you for driving on roads.
are you fucking idiotic or what, man?

>Just move to Somalia if you don’t like it goy, but first...
>pay fees to get a passport
>pay taxes on the airline fees
>pay for a govt. issued photo ID
>pay taxes on the gas in your car to get to the airport
>pay property taxes on the car used to get to the airport

>hurr if you don’t like it just leave
Not the mindset this country was founded upon

because if you want the institution of private property you literally have to have a state. The only way you can protect property you are not physically at is to hire people to protect it for you, give it 1000 years, hey presto you have the modern nation state

>now the government taxing you for driving on roads.
Not the fucking same retard, you would only pay on the roads you need to use not for all roads.

I would argue that they aren't the same for several reason, and in order to have a debate about even basic economics, you can't conflate the two.

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Private courts

>Enforces private property

Hahahahaha, did you provide your local city mayor the keys to your house like a little commie cuck or do you maintain privacy by keeping your house key to yourself? I’m 100% certain you do not allow public access to your residence as a protest against evil “private property”. Good luck in your fantasy world.

lol but they are still taking your money. I thought lil babby here considered that theft?

If they have authority to enforce law, then what distinguish them from public courts?

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that is what taxes on profit are for
property should be hands off for anyone but the owner
this way government appears to own all land and property

It’s a called a deadbolt and a shotgun you fucking dumbass.

...Yes, that's EXACTLY the mindset our nation was founded on...we didn't like it back home in the UK under rule of the King so our ancestors got up and left.

retard

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Taxation is legal and mandatory, theft is illegal and optional. How fucking retarded are you?

What makes you think judges won't be bribed/corrupt?

It is absolutely theft. And the founders would shit a fucking chicken if they could see what fuckery is being done.

slide thread, fuck off

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You are correct, OP.
However, it is a strange form of theft in which the "robber" takes your hard-earned money and then promptly buys you groceries with said stolen money, not without pocketing a bit of the money themselves, of course. At least in theory, public money collected through taxation goes towards the welfare of society, the common good... in theory.

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no its not, some kumbaya bullshit, in both cases the worker is being robbed by the capitalist via the capitalist state. When you pay rent, you only do so because the capitalist pays taxes in order that the police will stop you from using unused property.

The capitalist boss, the owner NOT THE MANAGER, the OWNER, does nothing or next to nothing, the more wealthy the capitalist gets, the less they do and the more they hire people to do things for them, to the point where despite taking the majority of profits, they do basically none of the actual work. They can only do this because the state protects these people, every part of the profits of society that go to these parasites is theft from the working people

Class struggle has been around a long time. In fact all hitherto existing history is class struggle

>You exist within the rape dungeon your captor provides, and you need to pay rent, that’s not theft.