Redpill me on climate change. Which theory is correct?

So far I think I've detected two different main streams.

1. People who claim the poles and glaciers will melt, the sea level will rise, rivers will dry out and people in Asia and Middle East, alle regions near equator or already dry regions (Spain, Italy, Greece, Mexico) will become uninhabitable and people will move into the North.
On the pro side, humans will be able to live on Greenland and in Sibiria again and grow food there.

2. People who claim we will face a new ice age and the northern parts of the world will become uninhabitable and we will all gather around the equator (which will lead to more war about ressources)

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>imagine asking Jow Forumstards about something that needs to be spoke by someone with in-depth knowledge of chemistry and physics
lmfao

This guy is a retarded nigger
Man made global warming is a taxing scam. The proponents have been busted lying and their predictions don't come true.

>Man made global warming is a taxing scam.

maybe but that doesn't mean, climate can't change.
Not long ago there was land where's North Sea now. So climate already has changed.

And human can influence micro climate (do research about Aral lake)

>imagine being so uneducated
Hit a book, subhuman

I'm interested in hearing your insight, Ese.

I mean, Giovanni

this kills the koch puppet

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if this was true it would mean option 1 is likely and buying a Finca on Mallorca is a bad idea.

We will end up killing each other before it gets to that point. Global warming is a hoax and the ice will take hundreds of years to see the affects of ice expanding. The only thing that will impact us short term would be crop issues but we only had one bad year in 2012. Most people will argue over this but the only people it will bother is future generations since Africa's population keeps expanding without the means to feed themselves and rely on gibs. Once actual drought hits and countries start to stockpile food it will be happening.

It's kinda both u melt the ice so u get cold waves coming from north. And at the same time the south that is not really affected by those cold waves is getting drier.

The correct theory is the one that doesn't say the multi trillion dollar a year hydrocarbon industry that has been the king maker and starter of wars for the last forty years, is bad.

There really isn't a debate about it, it is unequivically obvious that it's happening.

The deniers have moved the goal posts now to say that there is no evidence humans are causing it. Of course, they don't know what else would be causing it but it CAN'T be humans for some reason....

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You SHOULD be interested in reading research from accredited sources, not from me. I'm just getting a Ph.D. studying the synthesis of new platinum-based antineoplastic pharmakon, so, I'm not arrogant enough to speak about something that is not my field

Earth is flat climate change is a cover up for acts of God. This world is degenerate and will be purified by fire.

Shut up potato nigger, I'm still stocking up on cheap platinum group

No one denies climate cant or doesnt change.
You leftists have successfully framed the word "climate change denial" to derail any discussion about it and make climate realists look dumb.

>Of course, they don't know what else would be causing it
Sunspots.

>Most people will argue over this but the only people it will bother is future generations since Africa's population keeps expanding without the means to feed themselves and rely on gibs. Once actual drought hits and countries start to stockpile food it will be happening
wouldn't it be necessary to establish a closed borders policy? I can't imagine that it's helpful if millions of people migrate and demand to be provided for, especially not in a time of scarcity.

The sun is getting brighter it's putting out more heat.

they arent separate points, they go together.

the northern parts you may be talking about are the landmasses around the UK. if it werent for the ocean's Gulf stream carrying Hot water north it would be much colder all year round. this is where glaciers melting and norther parts cooling come together. the Gulf streams strength/effectiveness in carrying heat to and cold from the North is reliant on the Pumping action that occurs as the Warm water cools and Dense Cold saltwater sinks. However as the glaciers melt, to much light weight fresh water is added to the region where the pumping is supposed to happen. the result is a weaker pumping action and less warm water from the gulf of mexico. Without the heat pump working, the north stays cold. altho im not certain this colder period will last as everything gets hotter over time, as the earth heat circulation system ceases to function.

with melting glacies it would also mean Asia would be in a drought because Asias main rivers get fed by Himalaya ice.

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The Climatic Research Unit email controversy (also known as "Climategate") began in November 2009 with the hacking of a server at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) by an external attacker, copying thousands of emails and computer files, the Climatic Research Unit documents, to various internet locations several weeks before the Copenhagen Summit on climate change.
Climatic Research Unit documents including thousands of e-mails and other computer files were stolen from a server at the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in a hacking incident in November 2009.

The most quoted phrase took words from an e-mail of 16 November 1999 written by Phil Jones which referred to a graph he was preparing as a diagram for the cover of the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) statement on the status of global climate in 1999. Jones wrote:
>"I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie, from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."

In response to an e-mail mentioning a recent paper in the scientific journal Climate Research that questioned assertions that the 20th century was abnormally warm, Michael E. Mann wrote in an e-mail of 11 March 2003:
>"I think we have to stop considering Climate Research as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal."

Critics also highlighted a passage in an e-mail sent by Kevin Trenberth on 12 October 2009 that discussed gaps in scientific understanding of recent temperature variations, in which Trenberth wrote:
>"The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't."

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>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_documents

The problem with people on this issue is that they want to take to the extremes of either side of the spectrum. Which is ridiculous because of how much goes into this situation, and the level of understanding/knowledge needed for multiple different angles of this problem. People are effecting the climate, it would be impossible for us not too. And the earth's climate has changed many of times throughout its existence. The thing that both sides need to understand is that the earth's health isnt determined by what is happening on the surface of it. What is happening on the surface is a balance of all the forces on it. Yes we can heat the earth's atmosphere, yes the earth will cool itself... but what people dont think about is it is inevitable. Multiple cataclysmic events happened before the industrial revolution. Humans are not creating these things, we are speeding them up. Every major religion has a flood story for a reason. (They) know that the earth's surface will be destroyed, they have for thousands of years. I believe (they) actually can determine when that will happen next, and have already prepared. They have small underground cities, and they have tech and resources there able to sustain life while chaos is on the surface. (They) will emerge from the ground after the atmosphere settles and begin civilization with test tube babies and pretend to be god. They dont care about terraforming planets, they care about controlling this one.

climate has always changed naturally throughout history. man-made climate change is just a shekel grab.

An increase of 100ppm of CO2 is only 0.05% of the atmosphere.