Seems every other thread these days features the Christians of this fine board against pagans/Odinists/Asatru who point out that Christianity comes from Judaism and has been, since the days of the Roman Empire, used politically by the jews. Haven’t seen much on the theological and philosophical justifications for paganism itself, just that it’s “not christkikery”.
Have studied quite a bit of hermeticism and had my eyes opened (through meditation, psychedelics, astral stuff) to the shamanic/panpsychist side of things, so I’m familiar with the concept of a spiritual realm that coexists with ours, the parts of the soul, and the idea that our ancestors and the forces beyond can interfere in our lives.
With that, where do you go from there? I still find Catholicism to be the most developed spiritual path and kinda just the way to go in our modern society. It seems the people in charge of the church have destroyed and covered up a bunch of shit throughout history, but also brought Europe and the world forward significantly. Why is paganism now the move and what made you choose your specific branch? I guess picking whatever your ancestors worshipped makes sense but how in today’s world do you connect to that? Also post recommedations for works of philosophy, etc.
If you weren't a dumb christcuck, I would recommend Jung, greek philosophy except their gay dramatic mythology, Zen, Tao, something from Shinto,... basically everything that doesn't come from jews, pajeets or feral violent tribes.
Matthew Collins
prove you're a human
Isaac Reyes
I would suggest you feel the way you do about Catholicism because it most resembles the former Roman state religion. In my opinion "paganism" is no better than Christianity except that it caters more specifically to Europeans than Semites. A religion that combined all the best aspects of Neoplatonism, Zoroastrianism, and Advaita Vedanta without giving into magical thinking would have a lot of staying power, I think.
Think of it this way: a dog released into the wild does not transform into a wolf. He becomes a feral dog. And after a thousand years without being redomesticated, his line will still never turn back into wolves, though they may pick up certain wolfish characteristics because these improve their fitness in nature. Much in the same way, having been "domesticated" by Christianity, Europeans cannot simply "become" pagans in the sense their ancestors were. The answer is something new that resembles the ancient ways because these are what enhances the Europeans' fitness.
Bentley Collins
it's a dead religion, trying to revive it is like trying to recreate a 300 page book from 2 pages of decayed paper
Oh and I forgot White Nationalism, another staple of "pagan theology".
Cooper Flores
This is a mind infected with semitism. Paganism isn't about what is in a book. Paganism is the living world.
Joseph Foster
First of all, you're pointing to civilized, degenerate Rome. Secondly, Christianity will kiss nigger feet
Luke Richardson
>>"materialist atheism" >praises massive cathedral architecture that killed hundreds of thousands of trees so very modest of you, semite
Wyatt Hill
The pagan European beliefs of ancestors being reincarnated in their descendants is the most based religious ideology. Our blood is tied to our ancestral homes, if we kept to this belief the ((UN)) would have to uphold our right to our homeland. Abrahamic religion and secularism severs the tie with our lands and ancestors which is perfect for globalist NWO lizards to exploit and rule over our nations.
Just combine some fringe political ideology with Jungian archetypes and maybe a dash of Nietzcheanism and mask it with some pagan gods.
Congratulations you are now a pagan.
Nicholas Walker
"Theology" is Christianity's way of coping with its relative lack of actual spiritual content. People who try and approach Paganism from that perspective are also doomed to failure, because the key to Paganism is taking a hands-on approach to interacting with real spiritual forces and entities in the world around you, as opposed to baselessly pontificating about their nature. Only very few Christian mystics actually have hands on experience with saints, angels, etc. because Christianity on the whole just doesn't encourage it. Most Christians don't even believe such things possible, which says a lot about it.
Wyatt Davis
Then go back to where the huns pushed you out of. Reincarnation is the most retarded idea ever.
Aiden Morris
>bro follow traditional European archetypes and beliefs and you're a traditional European
Christopher Turner
>past lives >genetic memory >instincts The jew has really done a number on you and your foreskin old chap. They've cut your spirit completely from it's root and made you worship jewish nonsense from the desert. Whenever you look down at your severed penis, you remind yourself of your spiritual slavery to the Jew.
Adrian Lopez
Back when human spirituality was evolving people attributed different phenomenon to different metaphysical entities. Then Jesus did his thing and all the major theologians of the Roman empire assimilated the data and updated the public consciousness with monotheism which worships the initial creator of all reality from the earliest point feasible.
Brayden Jenkins
Ayy. Ancient poems of the Finnish people is 34 books. Thats about 100000 pagan mythological poems and spells. And it is not all recorded Finnsh pagan folklore.
Jason Russell
Except Jehovah isn't the creator of the universe, he's just one particularly cuntish deity
Henry Rogers
Pagancuckism is a huge mega LARP created by Christian Monks in the medieval ages., which died off once our ancestors became Christian, and was "revived" by a boomer in the 1800's by the name of Guido Von List who created a new-age re-construction pagan meme LARP he deemed ODINISM/WOTANISM.
> Jehovah isn't the creator of the universe > He created the Heavens in the Earth > He is the beginning and the end > The alpha and omega
Can't believe i'm hearing this coming from a member of the biblical tribe of Dan .
Wyatt Harris
There were still pagans who never were christians in rural Finland in the 1800's
Levi Bennett
Just because a second or third hand source about him says he created the universe doesn't mean that he actually did.
Also, I have nothing to do with the tribe of Dan or any other Israelite tribe. Nobody in Europe besides the Jews does. Our ancestors already lived here long before any supposed diaspora of the Israelites.
Your response didn't at all disprove what he said. also >Implying pagan empires didn't clear a ton of land for temples and civil infastructure
>Uh... like.... uh ancestral reincarnation because uh genetic memory... and uh... it sounds nice so I believe it
I 100% agree that most theology is an unnessicary intellectualizing of God
Don't forget much of neo-paganism is tied to (((theosophy)))
And in some parts of Russia. But clearly the Jow Forums/ neo-pagan conception of paganism is very different from what was practiced in Finland and elsewhere up to the 19th century
Joshua Cook
and what do you believe? A book that was passed from jews to Romans then the emporer decided everyone should believe this jewish cult? lmao Believing in your own blood and spirit of your own people makes more sense
Julian Campbell
> a few dozen social outcasts in the most remote regions of finland pagancuckism is a larp meme
Ryan Stewart
>Just because a second or third hand source about him says he created the universe doesn't mean that he actually did. Christian Biblical Canon says he did
>Also, I have nothing to do with the tribe of Dan or any other Israelite tribe. Nobody in Europe besides the Jews does. Our ancestors already lived here long before any supposed diaspora of the Israelites. Of course you do, your very own records state you descend from the Tuatha de Danaan (The Biblical Tribe of Dan) who sailed from Egypt to Greece and then to Ireland after the Exodus, of course there were pre-Exodus migrations to Ireland made by Hebrews, which come before Jacob is even born.
Cameron Walker
> Muh placenta my fucking sides
Leo Stewart
not an argument
Luis Wood
>Don't forget much of neo-paganism is tied to (((theosophy))) And not to mention that Guido Von List used the fucking Jewish Kabbalah of all things to create his meme LARP That should tell you why pagans hate Christians so much, they are infact crypto-kikes without knowing it.
Jack Rogers
yes it is faggot, what Varg says is bullshit and anyone that listens to him is a fucking retard too
Yes but I don't believe the Bible is totally fallible. I literally used to be you in that I took random aspects of paganism and Hinduism and created some religious system placing race as the most important thing. Luckily I had a religious experience a year ago that brought me to Christ had it not been for that I'd probably be arguing alongside you.
I believe that different races and tribes have different spiritual characteristics and so, in some ways, I agree with Evolian spiritual racialism. But I totally deny that race or my people is the primary object of spirituality. There are things beyond this life and this world that go far beyond politics or race.
If you are honest with yourself you know you came to your pagan beliefs after your political/racial beliefs and not the other way around. I came to my religious beliefs independently of all my convictions and even dropped quite a few deeply held convictions. Until you can say the same you're guilty of using spirituality for temporal gains which proves you don't actually believe, you only want to believe.
Joseph Myers
This is exactly what commies say about traditionalists. You can't Larp as your own people. All your ancestors are you.
Hunter Martin
why don't you attack Vargs take on what paganism is instead of making seething endless paragraphs about his character?
Nathan Moore
do you worship your ancestors or pagan gods ?
Daniel Allen
you mean when he admits pagancuckism is a fedora-tier meme larp? That the Gods are not real deities but just made up bullshit ?
I don't worship, just believe in ancestral spirit, spirit of a people, ties to the land.
Josiah Moore
WE WUZ JEWS!!! yeah, no. I don't want anything to do with the rancid desert culture and traditions of the hebrews.
Charles Robinson
you haven't understood or watched his take, you are sperging out at single sentence rhetoric in comments sections.
Robert Taylor
It's a pretty awful sentence.
Oliver Lee
Abrahamic minds tend to separate the political/racial from the spiritual which is a fundamental flaw in itself. The temporal gain of survival is a spiritual undertaking in itself, it cannot be separated and made to be 'sinful'
Evan Lewis
so you're a fedora ….
Ethan Garcia
Ultimately paganism provides a new path for us as whites. Because there arent many pagans in general it wouldnt be very hard for us to take control and make it completely ours, recreating exactly the faiths of old isnt possible nor desirable rather paganism in its fledling state will alow us to create a new faith, one that combines both imagery, symboliam and connection to our past with consideration of the current issues we face and may face in the future. In this way paganism is like a sapling, if we treat it well, give it water, trim and shape it correctly then we will eventually have an impressive oak upon which the roots of our people can strike up towards our future.
Angel Mitchell
fedoras tend not to believe in spirit, soul etc, they are nihilist and only believe what a man in a white coat tells them. I'm a deist.
Levi Diaz
Catholicism is already pagan, all we need to do is remove the jew on a stick and its 100% European pagan beliefs
John Wood
> claiming i'm saying i'm a jew Ancient Hebrews and Israelites =/= Kikes
>“Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860" —Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23
>“Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” - (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3)
The Irish and Scots knew they were Danites from the Biblical Tribe of Dan, the Scots in the Declaration of Arbroath proclaim that they descend from the Israelites who crossed the Red Sea
>"Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since..."
Nathaniel Thompson
>The temporal gain of survival is a spiritual undertaking in itself There's nothing complicated about survival. Just close the fucking borders. This is God's purpose? This is the great spiritual undertaking that he has assigned us?
Luis Long
The Irish and Welsh languages are also very very similar to Paleo-Hebrew, the Irish spoke a Paleo-Hebrew Dialect and this can be proven by the Penulus of Plautos
>n the 18th century, historians discovered exciting proof of Phoenician-Celtic ties. An ancient Roman dramatist, Titus Maccius Plautus (died 184 B.C.) wrote a play, the Penulus, in which he placed then-current Phoenician into the speech of one of his characters. In the 18th century, linguists noticed the great similarity between that Phoenician and the early Irish Celtic language. In the adjacent box is a sample given by historian Thomas Moore's, History of Ireland, showing the connection between these languages. Leading 18th and 19th century scholars, such as Gen. Charles Vallancey, Lord Rosse, and Sir William Betham, also wrote on this subject. Vallancey, for instance, speaks of, "The great affinity found in many words, nay whole lines and sentences of this speech, between the Punic [Phoenician] and the Irish." Famed historian, George Rawlinson, added that this and other inscriptions are "READILY EXPLICABLE, IF HEBREW BE ASSUMED AS THE KEY TO THEM, BUT NOT OTHERWISE." (Phoenicia, p. 327)
PHOENICIAN OF PLAUTUS: Byth lym mo thym nociothii nel ech an ti daisc machon Ys i do iebrim thyfe lyth chy lya chon temlyph ula.
EARLY IRISH-CELTIC: Beth liom' mo thime nociaithe, niel ach an ti dairie mae coinne Is i de leabhraim tafach leith, chi lis con teampluibh ulla.
To simplify it: Ancient Mystery Schools --> Mithra --> Sol Invictus --> Jesus --> Catholicism
Carson Bell
I never said survival or even tribalism is sinful. I said it is not the primary object of spirituality. Survival in the world of a group is a good thing to aim for. But if your primary aim in life is merely that your group survive then that's totally materialistic.
You're saying that pagan traditions are good because they aid in survival. If pagan traditions are just an aid for the goal of material survival then they cannot be true. If your goal in your spirituality is aimed entirely on a political program here on earth then it's hardly spiritual.
> Abrahamic minds tend to separate the political/racial from the spiritual which is a fundamental flaw in itself What came first: your pagan beliefs or your political/racial beliefs. I'm assuming your religious beliefs hardly altered your political/beliefs and/or developed neatly alongside them. Politics and race can be connected to the spiritual in some ways but most pagans simply adopt their brand of paganism because of their politics. They want to ascribe meaning to something very important them which is their race which they have no way of doing because they aren't particularly religious for the most part. If your religion never challenges your pre-conceived notions but works perfectly with your world view then chances are you adopted your spiritual beliefs to fit what you want to be the absolute truth.
Julian Green
pretty much every people/monarchy linked themselves to peoples in the bible after they were Christianized. Before they were converted they linked themselves to legendary heroes and Gods like Cuchulain,Heracles and Odin.
John Scott
how is fighting all the forces arrayed against us to destroy us in order to survive not a spiritual undertaking?
Carter King
MAYBE YOU'RE ALL FUCKING RETARDS.
JUST A THOUGHT.
Matthew Johnson
It can have spiritual aspects but how can it be the highest spiritual good when in the end it's just the material world we're dealing with
Caleb Allen
The Kingdom of Solomon also allied itself with the Phoenician states of Tyrie, Sidon, and Byblos, and both states formed what would be called the Hebrew/Phoenician Empire, and this was the Golden Age of the Phoenician Maritime Empire.
>These historical facts have been known for centuries, and a plethora of books by leading historians has documented "the Phoenician origin" of Western civilization. Historians have given the Phoenicians most of the credit for this emigration from Palestine to Europe, although the Hebrews were more numerous, and were Divinely promised greatly increased numbers. Perhaps the answer to the confusion is that the Hebrew language is a Phoenician dialect, and the two are virtually identical. But as we will see, a great multitude of the "Phoenician" speaking early European colonists can be shown to be Hebrew. Famed historian, George Rawlinson, commented, "The Tyrians [Phoenicians] conceded to the Israelites a participation in the traffic which they had carried on for so long a time with the nations of the west. Two trading fleets were formed (IKings 9:27; 10:22), to which each of the two nations contributed both ships and men." (Phoenicia, pp.101-102) From their trading colonies then grew and developed early European cities.
A Neoplatonist senatorial sophist was teaching a class on the virtues of Hellenic paganism
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Jupiter Optimus Maximus and accept that the Roman pantheon was the greatest form of religion in the ancient world, even greater than Christ-worship!”
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, Comitatus from Illyria who had fought in a hundred Danubian campaigns and understood the necessity of the Dominate and fully supported all military decision made by the Augustus stood up.
”Who's the greatest being in history, apostate?”
The arrogant professor smirked quite Satanically and smugly replied “Jupiter, you stupid monotheist”
”Wrong. It’s Christ Pantokrator. If it was Jupiter as you say… then wouldn't Maxentius have won at the Milvian Bridge?”
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of "Against the Gallileans". He stormed out of the room crying those pagan crocodile tears. The same tears pagans cried when brave Christians chose martyrdom over submission in their struggle against the “Dominus et Deus” Diocletian when they justly sought to convert their infidel oppressors. There is no doubt that at this point our professor wished he had pulled himself up by his caligae and become a loyal subject of the Christian Emperor, instead of a wimpering homosexual cretin.
The students applauded and became Scholae Palatinae sworn to defend the Empire that day and accepted Christ as their Lord and savior. A dove named “Paraclete” flew into the room and perched atop the Church of the Holy Apostles and shed a tear on the Labarum. The Edict of Thessalonica and the Nicene Creed were read several times, and St. Benedict miraculously appeared to smash pagan altars. The sophist and his homosexual students were all castrated the next day by orders of Dominus Flavius Justinianus Augustus, who also donated their property to himself. They died shortly thereafter.
IT'S ALL EGO/VANITY, GEE THE BIBLE JUST HAPPENS TO BE ALL ABOUT THAT.
BUT.
FUCK XSTIANITY. BURN CHURCHES, VARG DID NOTHING WRONG. SEMITIC PUTREFACTION/PARASITIC JEWISH MIND VIRUS.
AND.
REINCARNATION EXPLAINS THE TRIVIALITY OF LIFE TO A T.
JESUS MIGHT STILL BE LEGIT.
HOW DOES IT ALL COME TOGETHER? NO IDEA. DO YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING IDEA? NO, YOU DON'T. THE GUY WITH THE MOST SOLID SENSE OF REALITY LEADS THE PACK. FACT.
Josiah Cox
Dogs are actually still the same species as wolves, hence they can have viable offspring; within a couple of generations (assuming that the feral dog didn't get ripped to shreds first), that feral dog's offspring would just look like wolves, with maybe still a more even temperament.
Owen Torres
so you believe God is real but doesn't interfere with his creations?
Christopher Peterson
REE-TAURD.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE? DEATH IS THE END? YOU'RE NOT "INNOCENTLY WONDERING WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON" YOU'RE NOT AN OBJECTIVE OBSERVER/NEUTRAL AGENT.
GIVE ME. A. FUCKING. BREAK.
KID.
Jace Miller
What I seek is the ways of our ancestors, the Aryan logos.
Their heroic acts were largely a result of the underlying mythos they constructed their society on.
I don't care that much how exactly they performed their rites, I am on a path of discovery of what is beyond the act, what made them act a certain way.
Jayden Lee
>with its relative lack of actual spiritual content. Kek. Yeah it's not like the religion of Christianity has a main book with spiritual content. It's not like there are many writers and thinkers and philosophers within said religion whom have written many ideas about many subjects one being spiritual life. It's not lile the whole point of said religion is someones spiritual walk in this life and the next. This is what I always hate. Stop making these threads pretending it is an honest talk about Christianity and Paganism or anything like that because every single damned time you people turn it into a Christian hate thread. So here's an idea actually read the religious texts of said religion you want to try and dunk on and then promptly if you still hate said religion make a hate thread and be up front and honest. I do know you ain't OP but the point still remains my friend.
Luke Price
>all caps >angry >reddit spacing Must be from barrio sur
Hunter Sullivan
When did I say death was the end? Of course it is not the end.
Ethan White
>But if your primary aim in life is merely that your group survive then that's totally materialistic. lmao. This is the first aim though, without it everything else fails. >If pagan traditions are just an aid for the goal of material survival they're not, but it just so happens the religion of all of our ancestors for thousands of years is the best defence against the forces of the great lie. I don't think this is a coincidence. It's a sacred destiny to return to our roots and to the truth. >What came first: your pagan beliefs or your political/racial beliefs. You keep trying to seperate them, but these things evolve together as they are one. This is nature. This is how people thought before their minds were compartmentalized by desert religion, the enlightenment and post modernism. Deconstructionism makes a desert of the spirit.
Joseph Baker
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Yeah it's not like the is the first thing said or anything. You're an insult to your Celtic Christian forefathers.
Josiah Taylor
who are you or I to know of God? Does he leave signs for us or does he let the program run on it's own?
Tyler Richardson
X DOESN'T MEAN Y.
YOU ARE A MENTAL MIDGET/NPC.
IT'S ALL EGO/VANITY/SELF INTEREST. ALL OF IT. NOTHING ELSE, NO "HOLISTIC" WAY OF SEEING NOTHING NO NADA.
THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.
YOUR REALITY ISN'T MY REALITY, PROBABLY. I BELIEVE IN REINCARNATION AND REALITY REFELCTS THAT BACK TO ME AND IT MAKES SENSE, MAYBE JUST MAYBE WE LIVE IN THE REALITY WE THINK WE DO. MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS, I DON'T KNOW.
Dylan Diaz
OH? YOU'RE SO FUCKING SURE ALL OF A SUDDEN? LIKE THAT GUY WHO'S 100% SURE ALLAH IS THE ONE TRUE GOD? WELL NO SHIT.
Lucas Collins
Most people who have advanced society have been deists, Christians magically become deists in arguments for some reason.
Henry Reyes
> pagancuck cope
Famed archaeologist, Sir Austen Henry Layard, rediscovered and unearthed the ancient Assyrian cities, and graphically described the scenes on the wall murals he found: "Captives... were stretched naked at full length on the ground, and whilst their limbs were held apart by pegs and cords they were being flayed alive. Beneath them were other unfortunate victims undergoing abominable punishments. The brains of one were apparently being beaten out with an iron mace, whilst an officer held him by the beard. A torturer was wrenching the tongue out of the mouth of a second wretch who had been pinioned to the ground. The bleeding heads of the slain were tied round the necks of the living who seemed reserved for still more barbarous tortures." ("Discoveries In The Ruins Of Assyria And Babylon," p. 456) Inhabitants of Palestine in those days were well aware that Assyria would only too soon conduct a similar brutal warfare against the eastern shore of the Mediterranean. Would not large numbers of Israelites migrate westward, by land and sea, to find safety for them-selves and their families outside of the Assyrian sphere of influence? Historical evidence indicates that did indeed happen. The authoritative Dictionary of Christ & The Gospels relates, "LARGE NUMBERS OF ISRAELITES HAD BEEN CARRIED AWAY CAPTIVE BY THE ASSYRIANS AND BABYLONIANS... BUT A MUCH LARGER DISPERSION WAS DUE TO VOLUNTARY EMIGRATION." (vol. 1, p.692) Yes, more Israelites emigrated, migrated voluntarily out of Palestine, than even the large numbers of those taken away in the Assyrian and Babylonian captivities. As it became clear that invasion and conquest by Assyria was immanent, Hebrews and Phoenicians emigrated westward to distant lands by the many hundreds of thousands, forming the foundation of European civilization.
Jack Robinson
First, there is no unified Christian canon. The Catholic Bible is not the KJV. Second, all of what your particular church considers canon is considered thus from second hand sources; the people who read and interpreted the original texts and decided what made the cut. There were a lot of books written that never made it into some bibles or any at all.
Aaron Bell
Of course they would no directly link themselves with their Hebrew ancestors because they would lose most of their Israelite identity and history after the deportation into Assyria around 800 BC , becoming the scythians and cimmerians in secular world history.
Benjamin Rivera
FUCK IS THIS "GOD"? I ONLY SEE NATURE.
GOD WOULD BE SOMETHING MORE OF THE MENTAL REALM, ALONG THE LINES OF "I COULD DO THIS THAT THE OTHER OH NO WAIT, CAUSE HELL FOREVER CAUSE GOD".
OR MAYBE IT'S JUST KARMA. DUNNO.
Thomas Peterson
Yes he leaves signs for us his adamic children and he left us his word in the Holy Bible
Ayden Adams
There is zero genetic link between the Irish and the phoenecian/hebrews. Stop this Larp.
Benjamin Stewart
I don't see the glory in it, friend. Our situation provides opportunity neither for reasoned debate nor pure tests of strength. And if my enemy's defeat requires bloodshed I take no pleasure in it. I would rather he be restrained, taught, and made good.
James Butler
OH I'M PART ASSYRIAN I THINK, COOL. CO CO CO CO CO COUSIN.
Josiah Taylor
>First, there is no unified Christian canon. The Catholic Bible is not the KJV.Second, all of what your particular church considers canon is considered thus from second hand sources; the people who read and interpreted the original texts and decided what made the cut. There were a lot of books written that never made it into some bibles or any at all.
All Christian Bibles agree that God created the Heavens and the Earth, this is the main point. Also I know that there are books taken out of the Holy Bible on purpose, these can be found in a volume called the Apocrypha, and there is a reason why they were taken out.
Liam Phillips
RACE SEX AND VIOLENCE
STOP BULLSHIT, THE REST IS MERE CONJECTURE.
THEN AGAIN I'M A SOLDIER.
Ryder Russell
so the jews bypassed every country in the Mediterranean and atlantic coast in thousands of ships peacefully for months just to land in ireland where they left no genetic trace?
Angel Watson
>lmao. This is the first aim though, without it everything else fails. So the first aim of spiritual life is inherently materialistic?
>they're not, but it just so happens the religion of all of our ancestors for thousands of years is the best defence against the forces of the great lie. I don't think this is a coincidence. It's a sacred destiny to return to our roots and to the truth. In what way is it the best defense against the great lie?
>You keep trying to seperate them, but these things evolve together as they are one. This is nature. This is how people thought before their minds were compartmentalized by desert religion, the enlightenment and post modernism. Deconstructionism makes a desert of the spirit. Sure they can evolve together but the spiritual is supposed to be about truth beyond the material. Thus, our finite views on things like politics should not change our spiritual views but vice versa. Saying they naturally evolve together is convenient because it denies the possibility of you adopting neo-paganism to justify your pre-existing worldview. Also I am totally against the enlightenment, modernism, and post-modernism. And there has been political Christianity since its inception and I hold that the most political forms of Christianity lose the substance of the spiritual because they are debased to fit the needs of a political clique, good or bad, in the material world. Politics/race are important but not even close to the primary aim of spiritual life.
Daniel Walker
CHRISTIANITY IS COMPLETE TRASH THAT ONLY WHITE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE "BEING A FULL PERSON" (I.E RACIALLY PURE WHITE) THING LOCKED DOWN AND THEY NEED "MORE" BECAUSE "REASONS".
THERE'S NOTHING OTHER THAN MAYBE REINCARNATION, GET OVER YOURSELVES.
Xavier Morgan
You seem pretty insecure about your beliefs making. Yes I am 100% sure in God. But I don't know every detail or every truth.
Aaron Miller
there is actually genitical and linguistical links between the Hebrews (Phoenicians) and the Irish.
link related shows how the Hebrew/Phoenician peoples sailed to Britain and Ireland to mine for tin and copper.
>I don't see the glory in it, Maybe our descendants will. Likely to be hell for us but to survive we have to have the will. >I would rather he be restrained, taught, and made good. I think most men would prefer that, everything seems to be spiraling towards conflict though
Nicholas Phillips
Unironically are you okay? You going through some sort of crisis?
Nicholas Turner
YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR ANY HIGHER ANYTHING KID.
LMFAO.
WE DO THIS THEN IF JESUS DOESN'T SAVE US SOMETHING SUPERIOR (AI/SINGULARITY) TAKES OVER, FORGET ABOUT IT.
MEANINGLESS STRUCTURE, YOUR FEELINGS MEAN EXACTLY JACK-SHIT.
Dylan Howard
So you want some sort of technophilic rapture?
Benjamin Richardson
digging your head in the sand to pretend the material world doesn't matter isn't spiritual but a fantasy. Christcusk are race traitors and should be destroyed.
Kayden Roberts
>so the jews bypassed every country in the Mediterranean and atlantic coast in thousands of ships peacefully for months just to land in ireland where they left no genetic trace?
The Hebrew/Phoenician Empire sailed and colonized the entire Southern European region , North Africa, and The British Isles as I've proven many times ITT There is also J2 dna in Britain I believe, there is proof of this I just need to find the sauce for it.
Aaron Hughes
WHITE PEOPLE ARE A FUCKING JOKE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE, I CAN CLEARLY TELL THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON OTHER THAN MAYBE REINCARNATION.
WE DON'T FUCKING MATTER, WE'RE JUST ANIMALS. SERIOUSLY, HOW THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THIS MAKE ANY SENSE OTHERWISE? WHY WOULD GOD CREATE ABOS? I MEAN IT'S NOT A NEUTRAL THING, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A FUCKING ABO OR SOME UGLY BUT SMART SPIC/SANDNIGGER/CHINK/KIKE/ETC. EVEN BEING AN UGLY WHITE SUCKS I'M SURE, WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT? WHAT IS THE BIG IDEA? WHAT'S THE "PLAN"? CAUSE I DON'T SEE IT.
LIFE IS FUCKING TRIVIAL, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER INCARNATION.
AND I SAY INCARNATION, CAUSE I'VE SEEN SUPERNATURAL SHIT AND ATHEISM "FEELS" WRONG AND IT ALSO DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE TO ME.
Daniel Bennett
>So the first aim of spiritual life is inherently materialistic? No. The material world is part of the universe like our souls but our souls are a higher state of being. We don't discount the material world as profane but see it as a reflection of the divine, different from our soul but from the same root. We can learn from the patterns in it, the makers mark is everywhere in nature. >In what way is it the best defense against the great lie? In the way it protects the very essence of what we are and preserves the basic uncorrupted truths of our ancestors in this clown world.
Xavier Smith
AREN'T WE ALL?
MR FUCKING "HAS IT ALL FIGURED OUT OVER EHRE"
ONLY NPC'S ALLUDE TO "NORMALCY". THERE IS NO "NORMAL", NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.
