Land of the free...

Jeremiah Watson
Jeremiah Watson

LoL.
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We have free speech
We have the constitution
Shall not
When is the average American going to wake the fuck up? The constitution at this point is slowing you down more than anything.

If you think your free speech was ever protected, you are a sheep and will be herded in due time. Anyone still defending the constitution rather than facing the reality of its worthlessness is enabling this system. This document is simply an opium that keeps the feeble mind happy as he fall asleep with his precious gun thinking he is still free. Its only real in your head stupid goy. Wake Up!

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Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

its illegal to incite violence nigger

Camden Nguyen
Camden Nguyen

The arrest wasn't even on those grounds. Dude was nabbed for sending actual threatening letters, as in specific threats to murder someone, and for possessing a firearm as a felon.

OP, stop being retarded and do some actual analysis yourself. First Amendment protections are stronger now than ever, but they have never been, nor were they designed to be, absolute. See: libel, defamation, actual threats, fighting words, incitement of imminent unlawful acts. If you would: a) read the goddamn facts and not the headline; and b) familiarize yourself with the jurisprudence surrounding the topic before opening your mouth, you wouldn't look so pathetic. I get that law is difficult for laymen, but you literally didn't even try.

Elijah Bennett
Elijah Bennett

"A law found to discriminate based on viewpoint is an “egregious form of content discrimination,” which is “presumptively unconstitutional.” … A law that can be directed against speech found offensive to some portion of the public can be turned against minority and dissenting views to the detriment of all. The First Amendment does not entrust that power to the government’s benevolence. Instead, our reliance must be on the substantial safeguards of free and open discussion in a democratic society."

Matal v. Tam

Lincoln Wright
Lincoln Wright

First Amendment protections are stronger now than ever
Yes that must be why you can basically lose your livelihood for saying mean words but sure goy you can be free to speak.

Retard.

Aaron Ward
Aaron Ward

So you're just going to wear your ignorance proudly for all to see? Slackjawed troll or slackjawed mongoloid; either way, your thread is still shit and you're still pitiable.

Christopher Stewart
Christopher Stewart

Ive threatened a lot of people and never been arrested for it. According to law it must be deemed a credible threat. This man was sending credible threats. IE to peoples addresses etc.... Threatening to kill them etc... That's illegal everywhere.

Adrian Bell
Adrian Bell

florida man

Ryder Murphy
Ryder Murphy

Test it out then.
Go out there and publicly announce that you are a national socialist and deny the holocooaster. See what happens Mr free speech...

Tyler Murphy
Tyler Murphy

if Florida law enforcement wants to paint a target on the backs of their heads and run around waving their arms shouting
SHOOT ME!
I'M AN ENEMY OF THE USA
MY JOB IS TO UNDERMINE USA VALUES
then let them
they're fucking idiots and they're wasting taxpayer funds
they have no authority to do this, and loyal Americans should murder them
shitheads like this should be murdered as an example to other members of law enforcement
enemies of the USA need to die, period

Justin Diaz
Justin Diaz

You’re confusing the law first amendment with the cultural concept of freedom of speech.
I agree with you that culturally we are losing the freedom of speech battle but lawfully the first amendment stands strong.
I get that nuance is tough for meme flags but please try to keep up.

James Thomas
James Thomas

If this is true then I can admit I was wrong about that one incident.
However this incident aside, free speech is a meme in the US.

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Julian Bennett
Julian Bennett

honestly we need a candidate for president who will run on making a list of enemies of the USA and who will pledge to destroy their lives
Florida law enforcement would be at the top of this list

Carson Sullivan
Carson Sullivan

It’s called “freedom of speech” not “freedom to be a fucking dumbass”

IMO it’s just, he was a stupid and dangerous individual.

Jaxon Lee
Jaxon Lee

if we can get Trump to run on cracking down on the enemies of the USA, he is an instant win
all he has to do is say he will demand Congress wage war against the domestic enemies of the USA, including rogue law enforcement like FDLE

Jeremiah Carter
Jeremiah Carter

IMO it’s just, he was a stupid and dangerous individual.
That argument has been used a lot in order to justify imprisoning a lot of political dissident. Tell me, who else falls on your list of people we should arrest for ''being fucking dumbasses''.

Hunter Robinson
Hunter Robinson

I like how you've now shifted the goalposts. The first amendment specifically protects you from STATE ACTION taken against you for the content of your speech barring a few specific exceptions. This does not, however, protect someone from social and professional ramifications for their conduct. I'm a lawfag so I'm not going to irreparably damage my credibility by acting like a mongoloid, but I can say with 100% certainty that I would not be subject to criminal liability for doing so. See the difference? I know it's a bit nuanced, and nuance is icky, but hopefully I elucidated the matter for you.

Brody Williams
Brody Williams

we need a McCarthy-style purge of enemies of the USA
right now, there are plenty of these fucking psychos who want to undermine USA values
a lot of them are in law enforcement, taking taxpayer dollars and pissing and shitting on the Constitution
we need to get these freaks out of government and working real jobs
if you are an enemy of the USA, then you need to either earn your keep doing something simple like manual labor or get the fuck out of the USA and never come back

Christopher Peterson
Christopher Peterson

the fact is that FDLE acted as an internal enemy of the people of the USA by undermining faith in the USA Constitution
we should take aim at these freaks and destroy their lives, legally
we should get Congress to grease the wheels on some torture devices that destroy the lives of these fucking cunts
FDLE, GET RID OF YOUR FUCKING CUNTS ALREADY
USA IS FOR REAL AMERICANS, NOT FUCKING CUNTS

Ryder Evans
Ryder Evans

He was arrested for being a felon with a fire arm.

The "intimidation and threats" charges along with incitement are bullshit UNLESS he threatened to kill a specific person, which has ALWAYS been illegal, retard.

Owen Howard
Owen Howard

honestly, how can we punish Florida for this bullshit at the federal level
can we withhold federal funds for public works projects
how can we make life painful for Floridians for this bullshit

Bentley Watson
Bentley Watson

the second it gets challenged the courts would toss it out.

Cooper Cooper
Cooper Cooper

People who:
1) intentionally or with reckless disregard for the veracity of their statements lie about an individual and damage their reputation
2) Individuals whose speech advocates IMMINENT and UNLAWFUL activity. Imminent meaning imminent
3) Individuals who through their speech or conduct express a clear intent to cause impending grievous bodily harm against another
4) words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."

Golly gee, that was hard.

Anthony Scott
Anthony Scott

The lying media loves to make their readers think these people were arrested for "hate speech" when in fact their speech has nothing to do with why they were arrested. It's illegal for a felon to have guns, which he had, and he probably made direct threats, which has always been illegal, but they will show the legal posts he made and imply those are why he was arrested.

Gavin Rivera
Gavin Rivera

I'm unsure of the facts with regard to the incitement charge, and that can be a very timeline fact-oriented analysis, so I won't speak to that. But I believe the threats included letters mailed to specific individuals explicitly threatening to murder them. I'd say that falls outside 1A protections

Brandon Morales
Brandon Morales

This does not, however, protect someone from social and professional ramifications for their conduct.
That's my point exactly. Its a fucking meme. It should protect you from this. Those companies can take a side in politics, shill for globohomo shit but then if I'm caught speaking against this shit then my job can fire me. How is that not a fucking meme?

Liam Myers
Liam Myers

4)
That's the one you should read again because that's the one who can be twisted to fit any agenda. Good job outing yourself as a retard.

gee that was easy to dismantle.

Eli Anderson
Eli Anderson

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William Garcia
William Garcia

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Zachary Edwards
Zachary Edwards

It’s called liberty, my man. Americans used to believe they didn’t need daddy government to come in and set the rules on what is acceptable and not.

Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

user, I knew you were a low-effort reactionary poster just trying to stir shit, but really? A society where not only does each individual have total freedom to say whatever they want with impunity, but somehow this system must do so without also infringing upon others freedom of association? It literally can't be done, the two are to some degree in tension with one other. Both are First Amendment protections, by the way. Uh oh, your utopia puts the First Amendment against the First Amendment? What could this mean? Surely not that you're suggesting a juvenile poorly thought out "black-white" world without regard to practical realities or the philosophical principals which underpin the 1A. Nah, it's just that the U.S. is spinning into a dystopian hellscape of censorship despite recent SCOTUS jurisprudence taking pains to prevent ideas liike "hate speech" from taking hold.

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

You think the fighting words exception, one of the weakest and least used exceptions to the 1A, is somehow the sleeper threat to our liberty. Jesus christ dude, you're unhinged.

Chase Davis
Chase Davis

Incitement is almost impossible to prove, but yeah if he sent letters to people specifically threatening to murder them he's fucked, since that has always been a crime.

Luis Murphy
Luis Murphy

It's very ironic that you'd take this position given the recent SCOTUS rulings seen here:

Are you suggesting that the government protect free speech by infringing upon someones ability to choose who they wish to associate with (a right bundled up with Free Speech in the constitution in the same-goddamn-amendment)?

Blake Cox
Blake Cox

Typical case of American exceptionalism.
This is going to be your downfall pal. Keep think your special tho.

Nolan Wood
Nolan Wood

What good could there possibly be in a huge list being posted everywhere of all the Vampires...

Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

by infringing upon someones ability to choose who they wish to associate with
But they already do that dumbass!
You don't have freedom of association since the civil right movement. Are you even trying? Let me guess, a lolbert?

Jackson Gray
Jackson Gray

if we can get the biggest kike puppet with a kike family who have israel billions to stop being a kike puppet

Juan Turner
Juan Turner

I will, and I will continue to express whatever the fuck I want without fear of criminal prosecution. If you find a country with stronger speech protections I'll be sure to relocate.

Brody Powell
Brody Powell

If you find a country with stronger speech protections I'll be sure to relocate.
So you'd just move like a coward. No attach to your land or your people. Pathetic.

Easton Cook
Easton Cook

You are not sheep. You are cattle.

Gavin Hernandez
Gavin Hernandez

So, let me get this straight, your position is now that freedom of association doesn't exist entirely on the basis that common carriers subject to Congressional authority have to serve blacks? Just gonna throw out the entire right? I'll concede that I do not agree with Heart of Atlanta Hotel as I generally disfavor abuse of the commerce clause, but that in no way completely eviscerated freedom of association? Local businesses can still refuse service to anyone, churches and organizations can still choose their membership freely, and I don't have to work with people who act like chucklefucks. Do you know of any other country with stronger freedom of association or speech protections?

Benjamin Phillips
Benjamin Phillips

It was a rhetorical tick to emphasize that no such country exists you subhuman. Have fun with your petulant screeching about a country in which you do not reside concerning laws which you do not understand using cases you didn't read.

Connor Fisher
Connor Fisher

Local businesses can still refuse service to anyone, churches and organizations can still choose their membership freely, and I don't have to work with people who act like chucklefucks.
That's a lie and you know it.
No business could refuse to serve niggers without risking a massive fine and possibly getting harmed by a mob. You are delusional.
Do you know of any other country with stronger freedom of association or speech protections?
Not an argument.
Your point is basically this: Two plate of shit. One of the two has less shit in it. So I'll eat the smaller one. Haha gotcha I ate less shit than you.

At the end of the day, you're still eating shit...

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Jace Davis
Jace Davis

he’s going all out!

Jack Cook
Jack Cook

You can't refute me.
Just admit you don't have freedom of speech and association I don't get how its so hard.

Charles Young
Charles Young

There's a plan, and it's good. Wish you the best

Daniel Williams
Daniel Williams

Immediately halt vaccinations, nationwide. You will find in a year or two that white people aren't the ones getting sick.

After Brown vs. Board of Education, there's legal precedent to take back the schools and send everyone home on sick days.

If we can just do the first part, we can get to the next part

Jonathan Ramirez
Jonathan Ramirez

make private club and serve food.
Deny membership to all blacks.
Approve basically anyone else.
At any time you don't like someone just revoke membership.
It's a private club, not a public business :^)

Nathan Turner
Nathan Turner

An ultimatum: segregation or war.

If they understand that integration means the safety of their women and children are now at risk because of their biological inferiority, they will choose segregation. If we can offer it on our terms peacefully, we should and we will

Hunter Nguyen
Hunter Nguyen

It's a private club, not a public business :^)
Yes tell that to the golf clubs who tried to keep the kikes off their courses. See how great that worked for them.

Isaac Perry
Isaac Perry

DarkLord79
Fuck him.

Connor Rivera
Connor Rivera

When you go back to the desert, you'll have to stay there. I assume you'll come back later again. I like you man

Ethan Butler
Ethan Butler

muh freedom of association.
point out that's been trampled by the government.
america still has most freedumb in da world!

you destroyed that faggot kike weasel.

Aiden Ward
Aiden Ward

Blacks are a weapon, a new form of genetic warfare implored under the guise of acceptance to dull down competitors IQ and put great strain on their resources and social fabric.

They socially displace whites and are used to socially shame whites from pursuing any political or policy that benefits them. Jews imported them as a work tool to profit off of them, and them dumped them off on whites along with the blame. They discovered they could be used as a weapon against us by playing with psychological warfare and socially conditioning the population to feel endless guilt for something they never did in the first place.

Chase Perez
Chase Perez

Well show as what he posted retard. Actionable threats aren't protected.

Blake Parker
Blake Parker

jowforums.com/thread/216834508/politics

Adam Rogers
Adam Rogers

violent felon in possession of firearms
posts public vids saying he wants to kill, idolizes shooters, writes down that he wants to kill people

it's like a parody of what not to do
seriously how does this guy not forget how to breathe?

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