Is there any argument a pro-life person can have after you tell them you don't value all life inherently other than

>muh emotions
I don't care. Either give me an argument in favour of valuing all life without discrimination or cry to someone else.

Killing unborn subhumans is no big deal. Killing unborn whites is pure evil

Well, abortion does open the door to eugenics. I mean, why stop at babies? For the betterment of society, all of the mentally and physically handicapped should be aborted as well. The government should also have a hand in deciding what kind of babies get aborted as well

>it's the birthrates

>you're evil
I don't care. Either give me an argument in favour of valuing all life without discrimination or cry to someone else.

Their entire argument relies on portraying you as an evil and bad person
There wouldn't be a point in providing further arguments because they already won

>Well, abortion does open the door to eugenics
Okay.
>I mean, why stop at babies?
Correct.
>For the betterment of society, all of the mentally and physically handicapped should be aborted as well
Well, a child is a parent's responsibility, and the parent is aborting him/her. If someone responsible for a handicapped person wants to end them, no problem. They shouldn't be forced to value the life of a leech.

>you're evil
I don't care. Either give me an argument in favour of valuing all life without discrimination or cry to someone else.

This

I just gave you all the argument you need retard.
start caring about the unborn or when this nations goes to shit
And the cleaning crew comes into to take out "the trahs" (ie pedos, communists, people who believe in abortion)
Said men arent going to value your life either.
And you'll get a bullet in your fucking brain because of it.
I dont need to convince you of shit
because you dont matter.
YOU have never killed anyone.
I have.
As has most of the men in my family.
Your opinion doesnt fucking matter because you are fucking irrelevant.
The only reason you have the ability to pontificate upon your degeneracy right now is because men like me are protecting you from having your skull based in.
How long do you think thats gona last when the social security money dries up, so the government just as to start printing more and the value goes to 0.
We're living in fucking weimar dude.
And you are just one of the manafestations of this fucked up degenerate shit hole.

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Killing babies does make one evil, though for the sake of arguement, I’ll say he isn’t. But legalized murder as I mentioned in my previous post is a very dangerous thing, and will get abused, and much worse than anything before. It makes eugenics, social engineering, and population suppression much more efficient than it already is, which is a very bad thing. Unless you support the government having full control over the life and death of its people

>muh emotions
I said in my first post I don't care about your emotions.

Yeah, it goes like this:
The God of our universe has decreed an all-encompassing moral code that forbids murder. If you're complicit in the murder of innocent children, you get the rope. You will go to hell if you don't repent.

Only that, since knowing you don’t value life and thereby wouldn’t extend the values they hold to anyone, they in turn should not extend their values to you. It is to their detriment to listen to you or keep you protected under the umbrella of society they support.

The only reason I support abortion is because the people who get them probably don't deserve to have children anyways, I'm not gonna stop them.

>muh emotions and fantasy
I don't care. Give me a reason all life is inherently valuable.
I answered this already

"pro-life" is the cringiest and most contradictory virtue signaling term in politics right now.

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Caring, or lack thereof, is an emotion. Why should we care about your emotions? Give us a reason we should care that you don’t?

Kinda wish you were aborted tho

>I don't care
I'm not saying you should care
I'm just saying that they won't provide an argument past that because they don't need to
The abortion debate won't ever be about convincing 1 psychopath on Jow Forums, but the average Joe that doesn't like evil things.
They already got you to admit you're evil so they won the debate and don't need to argue anymore

Okay, I think I've proven my accusation right. All anyone can say is
>muh fantasy
>muh emotions
>you're evil

Not one single reason for ALL life being valuable.

I'll continue being pro-choice, thanks emotional fags.

They’re not leeches, they are other people. Though abortion does drastically decrease the inherent value of life since any person can simply kill another before they even have a chance to be born, so I can see why you don’t see them with much value anymore. Anyway, what’s to stop a group of “concerned” politicians from passing laws and acts to give more and more control to the government, federalizing it? What if those that speak out against it end up getting “aborted”? It’s a dangerous game, one I don’t want to see go further

>imagine thinking life is intrinsically valuable

cringe

All you have proven is that you're a sociopath.

based

>I dont care about your emotions
and i dont care that you dont care about them.
Emotions arent what you are going to need to worry about.
Actions are.
specifically the actions of men capable of fucking offing you just because they dont like what you say about their children.
We are living in a world of laws right now,
failry soon,
we arent going to be.
When that happens, normal fucking people are going to kill you BECAUSE they dont like the fact that you support the murder of THEIR unborn children.
What the fuck is so hard for you to understand about this?
This isnt about fucking emotions.
Do you value YOUR life?
Then you're going to need to shut the fuck up soon and stop talking shit.
Because very soon we WILL be living in a world where that can get you killed.

What conditions need to be true of life for it to be valuable?

Because you don’t get to decide which life is valuable or not. Your argument will simply be used by those in power to justify further power plays that before would not have been possible

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You did not. You keep repeating “I don’t care” which means literally nothing and “muh emotions.”
Well, you’re the one talking about an emotion. A “feeling” as the basis for your reasoning. No one is interested in your feelings or what you do or don’t care about. Society is structured on mutually beneficial behavior. Yours is not. Thank you for letting us know you are disposable.

Well, it’s not fantasy if it’s the basis for the entirety of what we call western civilization. Even if it’s all fake, it’s arguably more real than anything that’s come before or after

>Self righteous virtue signalling: the post.

>hehehe guys, I'm a dark edgy autist from Jow Forums.org
>look how well I fit in with you guys, it's fun to say edgy shit we don't really believe
>I'm so zany and misanthropic! I'm a real Jow Forums.org whackadoodle!

It's all so tiresome.

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It depends on what you actually do value. Like for most normies, you can claim that abortion is inherently genocide and postured towards minorities to keep them oppressed or some nonsense. The problem is you're playing third rail hard core; pretty much "choice? I don't care about women's choice. Nig babbies get btfo"

But since you're on Jow Forums, no, not really. I always find it funny when Jow Forums is against preventative removal of Tyrone despite openly advocating genocide of Tyrone.

Cringe

Well in that case my anwser would be a violent one I would try to murder you before you murder me

>"vitue signalling"
how the fuck is saying "all you god damn degenerates will be culled" virtue signalling?

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Eh, we all go through that phase. The name of the game is to get through it better than you were before

Imagine thinking that not being a NEETSOC means you're a leftist

cringe

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Cool guess I can kill you and you won't complain good to know by the way can I have all your stuff? jk I'll just take it anyway lmao

God's law is not fantasy. It's a moral code that has governed the West for millennia, and it's not going anywhere, ever. You're an insolent heathen, and you deserve to burn for your blasphemy.

Especially when you know he is an unfit leech being a parasite off others. Completely devoid of ability to function outside of a society he holds in contempt, which he should. Any society that allows such an entity to exist is a flawed one. Of course, when we came to drag him out to the gallows he’d scream for his mommy and anything else to save his wretched life.

Presupposition of argumentation itself means the fact you're here blabbing on means you are aprirori pro-life.

The end.

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No, cf. Agrippa’s trilemma.
The only way you can make an argument that isn’t either circular or infinitely regressive, is by setting up an axiom that everyone agrees with. By deaxiomizing the value of life, you’ve left an inarguable void.

There is no argument that you'd accept anyway, you are literally incapable of seeing things from our point of view. Here's a question for you. Would you, in all honesty, kill a baby? Not a fetus, a baby. Could you do it?

A dead man can't complain

Yes It would be an epic frickin troll

You can't even write properly in your own language

A living one can. Would you care if someone wanted to kill you? Or, maybe someone you loved?

have you prepared your anus for no deal Brexit yet? you should be.

Executioner's trauma. Willingly taking the life of your child will fuck with your brain. The harm done to the mother is often dismissed in these arguments. Not to mention all the other health risks involved.

>Would you care if someone wanted to kill you? Or, maybe someone you loved?
Yes

>Thinks subjective morals replace objectivity

This is why I'm so right leaning but I don't have an opinion on abortion. The debate NEVER has anything to do with objectivity, just "Muh rights" or "Muh lives". Morality is important for people, not governments.

Why would I make that argument? Did you even read my post?

Look at abortion as a tool, like a gun. Natalism should be incentivized in communities where it is needed, but disincentivized in communities where it isn’t. It’s the top down planning that gets you into trouble.

>Morality is important for people, not governments
How can you possibly justify this statement?

legallize post birth abortions up to 10 years.

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Then life is valuable. It's literally that easy.

The fact that you don't value human life means you're a danger to a healthy, safe, functional society means you need to be isolated from people to prevent you from harming and disrupting every day life.

OP should have been aborted

Here’s some objective arguments against abortion
>clearly hasn’t prevented white countries from getting browned
>hurts k-selective races more than r-selective races, whites are now below replacement level while shitskins are not
>enables sexual hedonism which leads to the breakdown of civil society
>damages the institution of marriage by enabling fornication
>mostly used by the poor who can not afford it, yet another money sink for tax paying whites
>empowers feminism by giving career women an easy way to avoid their maternal responsibility
>reduces the potential number of future white soldiers needed to dismantle jewish tyranny

see
> I was talking to an older woman the other day, and she pointed out that given the serious damage that abortion causes to women's bodies / body chemistry / psyche / fertility, if the facts were not suppressed, the debate regarding it might not revolve around the "morality" of access to abortion or lack thereof - but rather that abortion and its prevalence are objectively a public health crisis, and education towards preventing it should be prioritized.

Abortion denies a father his offspring, the state its worker, the grandfather their grandchild, and the child his life; yet all of these are somehow less valuable to the mother than completing the pregnancy and bringing the child to term.
Abortion is a net loss with its blood money funding Jewish organizations.

Aborted child is a wasted investment that could potentially go for improvement of society. That society is slacking on capitalising on said investments - blame the game, not the players.

Saying that you don't value all life and not come up with reasons why some life doesn't mean shit to you is a
>Muh emotions

Gj OP, ur a faggot hypocrite.