>Stirm's anger and bitterness two decades later seem directed more at the woman in the famous black-and-white photo--his former wife, Loretta--than at the Vietnamese captors who tortured him.
>He said he survived the torture, the mock executions, the dread-filled days and nights, so he could return to her, only to be handed a "Dear John" letter by a chaplain upon his release.
>"I have changed drastically--forced into a situation where I finally had to grow up," the letter read in part. "Bob, I feel sure that in your heart you know we can't make it together--and it doesn't make sense to be unhappy when you can do something about it. Life is too short."
>"It brought a lot of notoriety and publicity to me and, unfortunately, the legal situation that I was going to be faced with, and it was kind of unwelcomed," Stirm said of the photo, taken by Associated Press photographer Sal Veder.
>"In some ways, it's hypocritical, because my former wife had abandoned the marriage within a year or so after I was shot down. And she did not even have the honor and integrity to be honest with the kids. She lived a lie. This picture does not show the realities that she had accepted proposals of marriage from three different men. . . . It portrays (that) everybody there was happy to see me."
>Stirm was awarded custody of Lorrie and Robert Jr., and Loretta was given custody of Roger and Cindy. She also received the family home and 42.9% of Stirm's retirement pay, though the judge noted a great deal of evidence was presented to show a pattern of misconduct on her part during Stirm's imprisonment.
Loyalty isn't a concept that woman comprehend, they are always trying to find a better man and secure resources. Every last one of them is cold, caIculating, manipulative, hypergamous. It's not a nice truth but it's the truth nothenless.
Brandon Stewart
Imagine being that guy's grandson in this day and age. How the fuck are you ever going to trust a woman and sacrifice in order to build a family?
Logan Foster
Women have like a decade of high value at best and become worthless after 28-30. Obviously they're not going to waste it on some cuck fighting a kiked war halfway across the world. Now a man who's fighting to defend the borders of his country from invaders that will rape and kill her too is another issue.
Austin Harris
>Now a man who's fighting to defend the borders of his country from invaders that will rape and kill her too is another issue. you think they gonna give a shit either way?
Landon Hughes
>thinking about getting dick instead of raising your young children women
Levi Johnson
why u have kids before war... kill the wives and trade daughters when you get back.
Colton Cruz
Everyone always loves to meme on the Spartans muh 300 but nobody wants to talk about how property was inherited martrilinially and that within a few generations only a few extremely rich women controlled all the land and property in Sparta and then for no reason at all totally unrelated to that fact Sparta collapsed.
Carson Richardson
and people wonder where fags came from
Noah Taylor
Bingo. Women are absolute shit in the West and have no concept of it either.
Camden Reed
Lol Americucks are hopeless >Let's fight wars to prevent Asian rice farmers from starving under communism so we can transfer our technology and industrial base to them. On top of that they get cucked at home.
He was an officer. His job was to resist the enemy though any and all means possible until he was dead. His wife was an irrelevance. Once you put pen to paper your life belongs to the service.
If a man is not at home to perform his marital responsibilities then he cannot expect to remain married. What a man does at work is not relevant once he walks back through the front door.
>be Eisenhower >leave dirty laundry on floor, not in basket >wife complains >"b-b-but the war"
Military service counts for nothing in a domestic context. The idea that the life of a professional soldier is compatible with a healthy home life is fucking nonsense.
Bentley Martinez
You're obviously on the wrong side of the Atlantic to understand this. Over here we believe -- or used to believe -- in the concept of the citizen soldier, the Minuteman, Cincinnatus, loicence-free.
>Why woman like this? A better question is, why do Jow Forumsishills want us to marry and have children? The result Colonel Stirm experienced is only an extreme, highly-publicised version of what thousands of other American men experience every year.
Jaxon Butler
Women have no concept of honor, loyalty or honesty. I hope Stirm found peace at the end of his life. I hope their children realized what a whore their mom was, and I especially hope his daughters saw this and vowed to never do that to their husbands.
Adrian Johnson
>though the judge noted a great deal of evidence was presented to show a pattern of misconduct on her part during Stirm's imprisonment. >But still, alimony
>About the picture and its legacy, Lorrie Stirm Kitching once noted, "We have this very nice picture of a very happy moment, but every time I look at it, I remember the families that weren't reunited, and the ones that aren't being reunited today — many, many families — and I think, I'm one of the lucky ones."
Because they want men to be pussy slaves. To conform to the same shit women(pussy jews) do.
Josiah Martin
>Loretta was given custody of Roger and Cindy. She also received the family home and 42.9% of Stirm's retirement pay, though the judge noted a great deal of evidence was presented to show a pattern of misconduct on her part during Stirm's imprisonment.
More importantly: why are the courts like this?
No wonder western men aren't interested in fathering children.
Christopher Hall
>in the west Women are shit everywhere. The only difference is if the society they live in keeps them in check.
Carson Torres
if you go to war, you have to accept that your woman is cheating on you. It happened in every culture and generation
Men just get brainwashed by fantasies of loyalty and other naive shit to help them get through things
Daniel Kelly
>implying that he held out just because he signed a fucking piece of paper How do you go through life being so retarded?
Samuel Kelly
I can't even pretend to be devil's advocate on that statement. It would be like saying water isn't wet.
Chase Rodriguez
you should think before you speak words you have not earthly understanding about
Isaac Cooper
(OP) >The female orgasm is a myth invented by marxists to destabilize the nuclear famil 100% truth. thots just want everything men have. they want an orgasm only because men have it. i've fucked many women and all of them try to simulate the extreme pleasure from sex, while clearly it's just a bunch of bad acting(gets on my nerves when they are too laud, especially when a bitch starts yelling "i want to cum" ffs bitch you're not gonna cum.. stop larping)
also, i assume women may feel pleasure from sex but it's more of a tactile type of pleasure similar to sensations from a back rub. it may feel nice, but it's nothing to orgasm about. also women feel pleasure from pain. on multiple occasions they asked me to beat them or to pinch'em or twist their nipples really hard. the same shit with anal for women, they just want to be fucked in the ass for the feeling of pain or something like that. in general sex for women is mostly about feeling pain and feeling wanted. it has nothing to do with orgasms or anything like that. they would fake whatever they think is appealing to men. also they will fake horror or being rape or insulted. women have to fake everything(appearance also) because their original form is devalued after they hit 20y.o.
for survival women have to depend on how much attention they get from men. so they act to get attention. women are bad actresses. even on pro level in the movies - nowhere close to being as good as men. when i see women awarded for acting it makes me laugh. it's like giving retards prizes for participation.
the same shit is with female orgasm. a women would award herself with a larping orgasm pretending that she's satisfied, so she could larp as if she's the judge for male performance. it's ridiculous. it's makes me laugh on the inside when these bitches tell me "hey i came with you so hard" like it's suppose to be some kind of an award for me ahahahaha.
women are all a part of mentally and physically challenged olympics.
>professional >officer >air force >"citizen soldier"
Nope. Does not compute in the slightest. Militias were cheap, lived there and were made of laypeople. That is why they were more effective than mercenaries or standing armies. That has not been true since the 17th century.
Nolan Lopez
No, they can cheat just don't fucking rob me and Tell me I'm a cuckold right when I get off the fucking plane damn.
This guys video is amazing, and in it he talks about how when he got home is wife turned into a lazy POS. He went on to say everyone he knew as a POW got a divorce. My father was in Vietnam, and started the foundations of the NSA. He had tons of stories. I tried to get him to record them like the video I linked, but he died a few hours ago to an illness related to agent orange. He said him and his friends with tell each other "fuck you" in morse code. One time he went to a bar in his local city in Vietnam. Two of the guys with him started to freak out since they spoke Vietnamese, and said everyone around them was speaking with a Northern accent. Apparently, the North Vietnamese sent their soldiers to Nha Trang for RnR. They got out of there right away, and without incident. He had more, but I can't remember now.
Nolan Barnes
>why are the courts like this?
Put yourself in their position. The man has been in dungeon for 6 years. You would not trust him to look after a potted plant.
Aaron Hernandez
Happy update, OP, she died of cancer in 2010.
Grayson Richardson
>That has not been true since the 17th century. [ Correction: 19th ] True. You limeys taught us that in 1812-1814.. But we still live with the ideal, mostly.
John Collins
Every Navy SEAL watches his wife get banged on a liver feed camera by another man. They are way into cucking before cucking was even a commonly used term.
Daniel Lewis
what kind of mother would put the well being of the father over the well being of her children? it was his choice to go play soldier for the zogbot instead of raising his family. the moment he left his kids is the moment she, as a mother, had every right to seek out a better protector for the family.
there's a reason why Romans didn't let legionaries marry while in service, why Catholic priests don't marry and why Hitler didn't marry till he essentially resigned his position as the Chancellor and fuhrer of the Third Reich. One man can't serve two masters.
Kevin Davis
>Hour long video
Timestamp or fuck off
Angel Nelson
He died a few hours ago? My condolences.
John Hall
You know they're going to cheat. But it then I'm going to steal all your shit part that just fucking kills the soul. Kids, house, half the money from getting your ass blown up.
Lincoln Howard
kek. You've obviously never had a woman cum on your dick. It feels amazing.
Matthew Robinson
Fuck, you really can't trust women for shit at ALL. Doesn't matter who the fuck you are. Putting any faith in a woman is only going to inevitably end with a knife in your back.
>>Stirm was awarded custody of Lorrie and Robert Jr., and Loretta was given custody of Roger and Cindy. She also received the family home and 42.9% of Stirm's retirement pay, though the judge noted a great deal of evidence was presented to show a pattern of misconduct on her part during Stirm's imprisonment.
Time to abolish the judicial branch.
Daniel Garcia
You are not white, that is obvious. You have no idea what the concept of honor is. It's an abstract concept your brain cannot understand.
Nolan Robinson
These judges have names and addresses... in Minecraft.
Jayden Thomas
Right at 1 hour, start the video. But honestly, watch it all. Its a great story.
Thanks user. I knew it was coming since 2009 when he was first diagnosed with prostate cancer, then other types of cancer, then liver failure. All linked directly to being exposed to agent orange. I'm at the stage now I don't really now how to feel. I've cried so much, but I don't want to cry any longer, so I'm here. Shitposting.
Owen Long
>Loretta was given custody of Roger and Cindy. She also received the family home and 42.9% of Stirm's retirement pay, >though the judge noted a great deal of evidence was presented to show a pattern of misconduct on her part Fat lot of good it did that the Judge "noted" the obvious.
Wyatt Adams
>>The female orgasm is a myth Bro, you've been with the wrong girls.
Zachary Fisher
> Aristotle was critical of Sparta, claiming that men were ruled by the strong and independent women, unlike in the rest of Greece.[28] Aristotle also criticized Spartan women for their wealth. He attributed the state's precipitous fall during his lifetime, from being the master of Greece to a second-rate power in less than 50 years, to the fact that Sparta had become a gynocracy whose women were intemperate and loved luxury. wtf i hate 300 now
Ryan Jackson
The militia calculation for the fighter was that it was better to stay and fight to preserve your home and livelihood. There was nowhere to go back then. For the state the calculation was that the militia affordable, the standing army was unaffordable. Mercenaries were expensive, ineffective and unreliable.
That stopped being the case in the 17th century as weapons technology improved. You cannot attack or defend effectively with janitorial soldiers. They cannot use crew operated weaponry or ships. Militia forces have been a strategic irrelevance for centuries.
Today the calculation for individual is broken; you can get on a plane and be on another continent in a few hours.
Cameron Nelson
this is fake dipshit. everything about the US and their wars is fake. theyve never won any either
Sebastian Phillips
>Woman does evil thing >Women are evil!
Why are misogynists so thoroughly incapable of rational thought?
Austin Howard
Women are human beings. They are inherently selfish, evil, deceitful, manipulative demons. They don’t care about anything or anyone but themselves. Brad fucking Pitt, in the top .00000000000001% of men to ever walk the planet, has been cucked. You simply cannot win. It doesn’t matter who you are, what you do, or how you feel- women are malicious. They want to take from you and break you.
Ryan Rodriguez
Condolences. When I read your post I read it as "a few years ago." My father died of cancer from witnessing 1960s nuclear tests in the South Pacific. Feels bad, man.
Brayden Evans
>be blown out roastie with 4 kids >three different men still offer to marry you
Charles Mitchell
F
Isaac Kelly
All the disney movies and other media about women being loyal and believing in true love was actually made for men, not women. The belief that true love exists is actually a male fantasy.
Nolan Hill
Thank you, and my condolences to you as well. It's so strange to think about death, but it happens to all of us. Everything goes on as normal in the world, the sun rises, the weather warms, and people go about their daily lives, but not for them. For them its over.
Leo Mitchell
WW2, conscription- pearl harbour. Have you ever read a book in your life?
Adam Adams
In America the calculation was different. Our Founding Fathers HATED standing armies, for obvious reasons, and worked hard to avoid building them. But when our militias mustered for practice they'd just get drunk and fuck hookers. For 1812 they were completely unprepared -- organizationally, not technologically.
Andrew Barnes
Getting captured is beta as fuck. Nothing dries a vagina faster than weakness
Andrew Ramirez
Do you ever stop shitposting or being a general retard?
Cooper Edwards
>Nothing dries a vagina faster than weakness I'm sure you are the authority in such matters.
>The belief that true love exists is actually a male fantasy. True. It started with Penelope, Odysseus' wife. Male fantasy indeed.
Jordan Scott
the courts enable them the West deserves to die
Luis Cox
>For them its over. They live in us. And if we're as lucky we'll live in our children.
Nathan Perez
>the moment he left his kids is the moment she, as a mother, had every right to seek out a better protector for the family. I guarantee her family was doing fine. I'm sure POW wives still get the paychecks they need and given the time period she was likely a stay-at-home mom who didn't need to even work a job while raising kids like the single mothers littered around everywhere today do. She wasn't raising them in Somalia, it was late 60's early 70's America, a perfectly safe place. She had everything she needed.
No, there were no excruciatingly rational deliberations on the resources she'd need for the kids versus her loyalty to her husband, no lines of harsh, cold reasoning that forced her into marrying another man against her own will. They were taken care of. What wasn't taken care of was her.
The truth is really simple, women don't do lonely. You'll hear a shitton of rationalizations but the straight fact is that they just can't hold it together on their own and they want some man to swoop in and dick them down regularly. And if they aren't getting that, the farthest thing from their minds is to just bear through not having things exactly how they would prefer just because of some solemn promise or familial integrity. Instead they'll just find someone who will, and there's always someone. Three fucking guys. Three fucking guys in line for one past-her-prime woman with several kids from another man already. But this Penelope just didn't hold out.
It's not rationale, it's weakness. Weakness that should be planned around, but weakness all the same.
>Women display a consistent track record of betrayal >wtf why don't you like women?
Why are hypergamy-shills so thoroughly incapable of rational thought?
James Morris
schizo, go and stay go
Ian Young
We clearly believe in the professional soldier. The modern warfighter is a day job.
Ayden Walker
That's what he got for fighting for zog.
Carson Kelly
Jews, yeah, we know. They've made it culturally acceptable for women to disrespect and not value men.
Caleb Fisher
This was after the Jewish revolution in America in the 60s.
Gavin Ramirez
Bill Clinton gave him two countries, LOL.
James Diaz
Oh Bullshit. >wifey: how was the war Bob? >Bob: Woman send the kids to bed now? >Wifey: why Bob? >Bob: Those Godless VC’s jammed everything including the kitchen sink up my backside, so I have a long list of things to show you! Now go wipe some Vaseline up your ass.
This is why she left him
Jace Turner
Your Nha Trang.png is 404. > more time with him. In my case it wouldn't have made much difference because he was not a man of words. I was gonna suggest that you get away from the web and go outside for a long break, meet up with family or friends, but somehow you can share deep feelings with anonymous people more than with people you know. Probably even more true of us autists.
Jacob Myers
> [404]
... or not.
Hunter Long
It makes me sad to think all those women who’ve cum on me were LARPing. Next you’ll be saying Santa doesn’t exist you sad cunt
Justin Bennett
I do that get it though. If she remarried why would she still be entitled to his shit?
Jaxon Walker
>She also received the family home and 42.9% of Stirm's retirement pay J U S T U S T
Isaiah Lewis
one of the causes, definitely
David Walker
kek saved
Julian Sanders
>The female orgasm is a myth t. virgin incel
Christian Perry
I'm sure you're both aware they'd spread their legs for the invaders. That's how they get by. Men fight and women wait to see who wins.
Jose Wood
Well you could just as easily say why the fuck is it seemingly in a man's nature to be a Jody? inb4 I'm a roastie apologist. Fuck off MGTOWs I want everyone to be honest here
God, poor mofo. I know my wife from a civilization of floating garbage in the Pacific would wait for me for the rest of her fucking life. She even told me many times she hopes she dies first cause she doesn't know what she would do in life without me and my guidance. White women are garbage.
Robert Collins
generalizing like that is stupid. There are statistics on women infidelity when men are deployed. You can even multiply that by two, if you think they would lie in anonymous polls. But it's not like all women do it. Maybe like 20%. That's still a lot. But imagine 20% of bottom barrel women. Yes, they're basic bitches
Joshua Miller
His first mistake was to marry a turbo slut whore His second mistake was to fight an unjust war His third mistake was to get captured
Mason Russell
even here, at the 1 hour mark, the dude says that some of the wives were strong, kept going, took care of kids and the guys had something to come back too
the problem is you fall for weak fake ass bitches instead of women of virtue
Evan Edwards
damn, she had already 4 children, it's not enough to do? I """"""""""can"""""""" understand if she wanted to build a family, but she had already a big family to mantain until the return of the husband. The things to do were not lacking.
Charles Fisher
I deleted it. It's 1am here, and my family are all back in the US. But thanks for the suggestion. I know I should do that. I will eventually.
James Turner
Sorry for your loss, man. This'll probably sound stupid but I just lost my cat that I had for almost 9 years and hearing "sorry for your loss" really did make me feel a little better. I hope you feel a little better now too.
Adam Thompson
>There are statistics on women infidelity when men are deployed. >Maybe like 20%. Wow, solid statistics ya got there, user.
