What's so great about freedom of speech if it just protects assholes?

what's so great about freedom of speech if it just protects assholes?

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Assholes are the people restricting speech to push their totalitarian agendas...

because assholes are more interesting
you should know, faggot

Freedom of speech was never a good thing. People are mostly idiots whose opinions don't matter. Thanks to American-style liberalism, anybody can say anything and it can mean anything. Don't blame the left, blame the USA.

mostly because your definition of "asshole" is different to everyone else, you asshole

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Bongs are a godamned queers! What a joke! Sad!

What happens when popular opinion shifts, and with it, the definition of "asshole" now includes you?

What do you define as an asshole? What if your definition of an asshole is different than the governments? What happens to you if the government says you are the asshole?

Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences of speech. Say stupid shit, lose your job, lose your relationships, etc.

The principle is that you should not be persecuted by the government for speech, but you should be judged by your peers for speech.

What do you define as an 'asshole'?

I hope you die of ass cancer

>reeee the media's not getting us much attention, they're all secretly fascist right wingers while I be here preachin sum luuuuv

Nothing, why do people need freedom of speech if the majority can't even use their freedom of thought well?

Oh who am I kidding?
OP isn't going to respond to this thread.

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Shouldn't the LOVE-side be standing in a circle around someone committing a heinous crime. As in they preach virtue, but commit sin.

>white people are the worst, kill whitey
>gets promoted, gets blue checkmark

Looks like consequences of free speech only applies to one site

Fuck you cunts are deluded. Spinning this doublespeak bullshit. The issue is censorship. Censorship has always been used to protect the powerful. You dribbling retards have been weaponized by powerful people to shill censorship under the guise of "hate speech" isnt free speech. Its fucking pathetic that you cunts think you are some freedom fighters battling ebil natzis... when in reality you fucks are corporate government mouth pieces crushing whats left of the human spirit.

This. Anybody can and should be allowed to say any retarded thing that they want, but if they're not aware of the potential blowback (IE: you work with liberals but say some Nazi shit online), they doubly deserve consequences. I'd much rather people be able to say stupid shit and at worst get fired or get punched in the face as opposed to being like 90% of the rest of the world where you go to fucking prison for having an opinion that doesn't match (((theirs))). The problem is that liberals generally don't want free speech for everyone, they want to be allowed to say their racist and sexist bullshit with no consequences but everyone else should suffer extreme consequences for having as edgy or as faggy of opinions as them, just on the opposite end of the political spectrum.

Either everyone has free speech, or nobody does. And either everybody can be punished, or nobody should be. That's where consequences is the biggest sticking point. Conservatives are the ones that get fired, banned, deplatformed, demonetized and all that but liberals who are just as extreme get celebrated. Double standards are for double niggers.

whats so great about tolerance and "love" if it just makes the country shittier?

problem is that consequences only exist for right wingers, you can openly say white people deserve to die or whatever and never get in trouble

Sometimes you’re the asshole

Everyone loves assholes, just look at any comedy ever written.

imagine having this much of a victim complex that you think speech is more of a persecution than being harassed or killed by the police or the government like what happens to non-white people

Imagine thinking non-white people who get shrekt dindu nuffin

So bullied into group think?

Why are they all taking pictures of the village people?

>what's so great about freedom of speech if it just protects assholes?
The great part is that it protects our right to be assholes.

Only a fascist bigot would disagree

:^)

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haha epic meme my good sir that totally proves my argument wrong you win the internet for today!

I don't know.
Why don't you tell us, asshole?

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I love hate

FPBP

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What’s so great about having an opinion if you’re too afraid to defend it?

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Because to some people you are the asshole, asshole

Im glad this thread is here, i can vent. In oz we have a program called safe schools. It was sold as anti bully program for schools. What it really is, is cultural marxism globohomo faggotry. It will be used to shame and bully societies most vulnerable, children, into degenerative, soul destroying behaviour and lifestyles.
A program sold as anti bully, will literally be used to bully and shame children into degenerate behaviour.
Ohh and parents cant complain... if they do the media will shame and bully them into silence

>freedom of press, not freedom from consequences
All right, time to purge the MSM
>freedom of religion, not freedom from consequences
Bye muslims
>freedom of association, not freedom from consequences
Get ready for commie day camp

I miss when you shitpost. Your reality post is sad.

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OP, I fixed it.

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crime statistics pay a different picture

>something something 13%

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aw fugg *paint

go to China and try and protest Xi the way people protest Trump in America. You will find out the beauty behind free speech pretty quickly.

you're an asshole, OP

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The value of free speech isn't who it defends but how it forces conversation to be conducted. Believing in free speech isn't grudgingly admitting that it's in the Constitution so you'll respect it if you have to and using it opportunistically when it suits you, but believing that when people can speak their mind the truth will rise to the top. It's believing that the truth is best discovered through open discourse, and that only the dishonest have any interest in ensuring that certain ideas don't get expressed.

It's upsetting that so many Americans are raised without any concept of the reasoning behind the government they live under.

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ayyy, this guy

Congratulations, you just discovered the actual purpose of free speech laws.

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Censorship restricts thought. If you cant say it, people will give it no more thought or even be exposed to a new idea. Censorship is censorship. It protects those in power

because of pic related, dumb asshole.

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Because the state doesn't get to decide who the assholes are.

It protects you, too. Asshole.

erm im an asshole dude

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Freedom of speech was a great idea until the internet let mentally ill people with histrionic/narcissistic/borderline personality disorder get attention and celebrity status.

Again with the doublespeak. This is about censorship. People try to frame it otherwise to suit their agenda.. ie free speech just gives a voice to haters. Its bullshit... this conversation should be about powerful people censoring opinion.

this is reality

thats powerful

deep

>The entire ideology of anti-hate is based on hating hate.

People who hate "hate" are genetically inferior people because their ideology is one big cognitive dissonance.

Freedom of speech was made up by liberal atheists to undermine Christian kingdoms, it worked exactly as they intended.

There was never any pretense of free speech ever being extended to non liberals.

By all means read Lockes “essay concerning toleration” and Voltaire and look at the exceptions they make to “tolerance”.

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Yes but do good ideas actually rise to the top fren?

Have you ever observed anything that would suggest life works that way?

That's literally what happened at Charlottesville

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Move along everyone.

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This.
Nice job user.

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Someone somewhere thinks YOU’RE the asshole.

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bump

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>tfw biting anyway

1. Aw, did someone hurt your feelings by saying mean things?
2. I'd say, if one of us was the asshole and the other wasn't, that the dumbass who wanted to control what I was and wasn't allowed to say was the asshole.
3. You're only a single person among billions; chances are you're as--if not more--flawed as I, and wrong on more than one point. I reserve the right to call you on it and prevent you from getting too big for your britches before you take it into your stupid head to genocide millions for no good reason.
4. Generally people get along better when we're allowed to bitch, insult, and make fun of one another.
5. Virtue signalling about some glaze-eyed utopia that only exists in the minds of out-of-touch, sheltered leftists doesn't solve any real problems in the real world; we need to be able to talk about what those problems are and how to fix them, deal with it.

Need I go on?

because assholes are funny.

>They think this means we should end free speech
>Actually means we should end the press.

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>Equal Opportunity Bigots

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>right-wingers never got experiences that made them less authoritarian
>they never broke rules or went on massive drug-highs
>being a fucking degenerate makes one less authoritarian and more sympathetic to fellow garbage
What a fucking shocker.
All leftists deserve to die.

Underrated

That’s not even true though. Many people here have engaged in degenerate behavior first-hand and been repulsed by the consequences of it. Christianity took off among disgusted and disaffected Roman elites for a reason.

The author of that text is engaging in pure projection about the Left. Everyone on the Right understands the Left, but the reverse is absolutely untrue.

so imagine if sheltered halfwits thought they knew what is best for everyone

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coming from the guy who lives in a police state where you have to show ID to buy a butterknife.

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please define "asshole" for me, then you'll realize why it's a dangerous slope, brainlet.

also weimar germany

everyone is somebody's asshole.
if i say you're an asshole, should you be silenced?

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