Is socialism the way for America?
Is socialism the way for America?
Yes, even the founders of communism loved the US
Yeah Lenin was really keen on the state sending troops to kill him.
No but the shitty capitalism we have now ain't working
You act as thought there's going to be an America 30 years from now, there won't. You're stuck in a mode of binary thinking.
what
I feel like america will have hints of socialism fairly soon. "Democratic socialism" is taking root and Bernie sanders is one of the main politicians at the moment. With automation coming in, we must question if AI will ease everyone's lives (socialism) or just give the bosses more money and take away millions of jobs (capitalism)
>I feel like america will have hints of socialism fairly soon.
We already have social security and Medicare for the elderly.
Lenin was the guy who implemented communism. As soon as he did a coalition was formed against him. The United States was a major player in that coalition. The sent troops to help the white army.
america had been socdem since FDR until reagan took power and put neoliberalism
but i am talking about the founders of communism
Communism existed before them, they just made it popular. Did they really praise the USA? It was an outright fascist state when they were alive.
>Did they really praise the USA?
absolutely
here is a letter from marx to abraham lincoln congratulating him for ending slavery in america, and also saying how america was an example for the proletarians
marxists.org
here engels praising american imperialism over mexico, because we are a failed shithole
>In America we have witnessed the conquest of Mexico and have rejoiced at it.[283] It is also an advance when a country which has hitherto been exclusively wrapped up in its own affairs, perpetually rent with civil wars, and completely hindered in its development, a country whose best prospect had been to become industrially subject to Britain — when such a country is forcibly drawn into the historical process.
>It is to the interest of its own development that Mexico will in future be placed under the tutelage of the United States
marxists.architexturez.net
here another one from engels saying how california being under american is better, because mexicans are lazy
>Or is it perhaps unfortunate that splendid California has been taken away from the lazy Mexicans, who could not do anything with it? That the energetic Yankees by rapid exploitation of the California gold mines will increase the means of circulation,
marxists.catbull.com
good thing there was a guy called Lenin who shifted the bullshit from the fact and made sure communism opposes imperialism forever. Still a shitty thing to write tho,
Communism is good at criticizing capitalism but fails miserably at finding any solution. Capitalism has its flaws but it's the best we have right now
nah lenin also liked the yanks, but not their shit rich class
>About 150 years have passed since then. Bourgeois civilisation has borne all its luxurious fruits.
>America has taken first place among the free and educated nations in level of development of the productive forces of collective human endeavour, in the utilisation of machinery and of all the wonders of modern engineering.
>At the same time, America has become one of the foremost countries in regard to the depth of the abyss which lies between the handful of arrogant multimillionaires who wallow in filth and luxury, and the millions of working people who constantly live on the verge of pauperism.
marxists.org
sage & cringepilled
Well good thing Stalin always shat on america. And created a culture of fighting against them in russia that persists to this day.
Global-wide corporatism is what's killing the West; and you commie retards think that MORE central-planning, by our puppet politicians, is what will fix this?
Communism can only work without government and capitalist can never work at all prove me wrong
Unironically yes.
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No, it is socialism that actually works. Why do you think that the (((capitalist establishment))) has been brainwashing us against this ideology from cradle to grave?
nazis were supported by big corporations
It works in the sense of it being capitalism. Everyone knows you get credit, and loans, and have major banks, and interest rates, and whatever. Nobody cares. People want a different system.
Pure kike disinformation. The entire economy was nationalized, all economic activity was directed towards the goal of national well-being, profit had no power and (((finance))) was utterly smashed. National Socialism is our only path towards freedom.
How could a nation be capitalist if Capital was under the control of the state? National Socialism is the only ideology which Capital fears. Only an ideology which combines socialist economics with traditionalist social policies has a chance of mobilizing the masses and crushing Capital. Did you ever consider why no such political combination is ever allowed to exist in the West?
it is inevitable
socialism is never the way
lenis
Nope this is all going exactly to plan
People are stupid and the more divided the more money I make.
You are exactly where we want you.
At eachothers necks while I make millions from your own pockets. MAGA MAGA MAGA lol fuck Americans are stupid.
Full on Communism is the only way the world can move forward. Nazis need to be fucking annihilated and then it can be achieved.
Also a warning to Nazis, I'm here and I'm watching you. I can find out who any of you are . Everyone will know who you are and that you are a Nazi. You're warned.
You forgot your meme flag
I doubt much would change. We're already living in a complete nightmare.
Hitler actively collaborated with and helped the rich (white German) capitalists, so they could finance his power trips. Unless you follow Strasserism, national socialism is more of the same.
Also giving all power to the state is fucked. Centralized power is easily infiltrated.
I think the Spanish JONS had the best system. Too bad the name of national syndicalism was muddied with the Falanges and Franco (monarchist jew)
What does the image have to do with Socialism ?
Hammer and sickle mean work and labor, for mostly communism
Quick call the police and say you are out of your mind
Foreing corporations that have built this entire empire people know as the world and leading government
>It isn't true socialism unless every wealthy person is slaughtered
Nonsense. It is enough to ensure fair wages and to suppress the anti-social and anti-national inclinations among the elite. The previous economic elite had the knowledge necessary to direct economic activity; those who were willing to cooperate with the new pro-social order should be spared, those who wished to continue hoarding resources at the expense of the nation should be dispossessed.
>Centralized power is easily infiltrated.
That's why kikes need to be suppressed. They are racial aliens who specialize in infiltration and subversion.
Talk about it all day and every day, nothing will change...
Criminals keep rushing into government job vacants and fuck evertything up until there is no more government
Drugs to be sold day by day, people dying of diseases because of the non stop war with criminals and crime who give a fuck about law enforcement agencies and create the most powerful empire out of "genious criminal minds"
Everytime I see a drawn eye that is not a drawn representation of Jesus
That eye makes me think about that filth of the "All seeing eye"
Keep up with that racism, you will reach higher goals
this looks so gay, and adding a catholic priest makes it more gay
Was it "the way" for:
>RUSSIA
>CHINA
>NORK
>CUBA
>VENEZUELA
>ARGENTINA
>MEXICO
>ZIMBABWE
The list goes on. They only experience mild economic growth to the same degree that they abandon Marxist anti-econ faggotry. Faggots that pretend like any of these places aren't or weren't socialist are just making excuses for the inevitable failures of socialism. They are committed to repeating the mistakes of the past because they refuse to learn from it.
>But but but some euro economies...
Yeah, overwhelmingly white nations that are homogenous and small have been able to slow the typical decline by cannibalizing the USA's economy. Notice how high unemployment is over there, and how rapidly the ethnicity is changing, too. Now that Trump is starting to fight for our interests they're not going to last much longer.
But what are fair wages? What is a good standard of living? Only the workers know. The workers are the ones that have to organize to fight for their own wellbeing. Building something from the top-down is simply not possible.
>That's why kikes need to be suppressed. They are racial aliens who specialize in infiltration and subversion.
Stop being so idealist. Traitors exist in every form and race.
Even just by itself, a centralized state may have its purposes perverted by a well-meaning idiot. YOU might have the right ideas, but can't guarantee that the next one does.
>m-muh economy
This is the cry of a self-centered capitalist, who does not believe in any higher sense of unity than his business associates
It absolutely was the way for Russia. Look at tsarist Russia 1917 comparing to the Soviet Union.
The Jews convinced Russia to slaughter its highest stock out of envy.
And then the Jews ran that whole region straight into the ground, murdering tens of millions, because they're a bunch of nerotic psychopaths. But I'm sure the (((commies))) think that's okay. After all, Stalin wasn't a nazi.
What a dumb meme it is the other way
Yes, they should starve to death
No but fascism is.
That makes no sense, it's historically always been the way the meme portrays it.
A nation needs capitalism to build wealth, this has always been indisputably true and the countries that implemented today all have the highest quality of life. But a nation also needs a protectionist, nationalist government to ensure capitalists never profit at the expense of the nation but only to build it up. Socialism will always fail because it is stagnant.