I've been watching a lot of Vox Day lately and a couple things he talks about makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. I'm mostly of German, French Canadian, and Norwegian stock (I'm buying tendies to whomever can correctly guess what state I live in) and a practicing Catholic. He mentions that Americans, referring to the American nation, are exclusively Anglos; white anglo saxon protestants. Though I get where he's coming from and for the most part it makes total sense to me, it makes me feel a bit uneasy. If I'm not American, then what am I? Is the state I live in my identity? Is the town I live in my identity? Are the countries my ancestors came from my identity? Is my religion my identity? guess the feeling I'm feeling currently is part and parcel of being an American in the 21st century; the term doesn't seem to carry any weight anymore.
Though I love myself a good amerimutt meme every now and then, let's try to keep this discussion somewhat intellectual you stupid niggers.
A white with european roots. The rest are invaders or the help.
Henry Foster
>I'm buying tendies to whomever can correctly guess what state I live in Minnesota, ND or Montana
Luke Ward
God damnit
It's one of the three
Joseph Gomez
Simple stuff America is a continent, it's inhabitants are human. Humans that migrated at one point or another physically or via the ancestor line hence the diversity. It's pjrpuse is to unite the world, uphold a new law and ensure 5he world does the same by organizing it as it has been for some time, is failing to do so currently and hope it will fulfil it's duty by going back on course, retain the power required to bring about a lawful and peaceful time! That's the just of it, simple a whole world condensed, a fraction of the hologram to become the whole world picture,.
Jackson Murphy
the United States of America has no ethno-nationalist identity. It was absolutely never meant to be that way. It was literally meant to be a giant Masonic experiment. Closest thing to any cohesive culture is that cohesion provided by Freemasonry and their stated ideals such as fraternity, equality, faith, hope, and charity, etc. Some people believe that there is something more nefarious about this. I'm not here to comment on whether or not that aspect is valid quite yet.
If you want something close to a cohesive ethno-nationalist identity, then we should submit ourselves to the British Crown, and then try and integrate into British ethno-nationalist identity. I don't think that's realistic, but a strong monarchy is a more ideal form of governance.
He is very annoying to listen to. Always brags about his supposedly high IQ can't take him seriously. Although some of his work is good, his attacks on Jordan Peterstein for example.
Lincoln Reed
Reported for being an Owen Benjamin acolyte.
Robert Brown
I agree honestly. He's a bit cocky, but interesting to listen too. Small hat detected
someone loyal to the ideology and therefore the nation. I haven't met an immigrant who understood what it meant to be an American who wasn't in the military.
we'd be welcoming Mexicans with open arms if they would learn our language customs and culture. They dont. They just come here for gibs and money. They bring gangs drugs crime rapists disease and don't take care of their property. They're generally low IQ and extremely prone to obesity.
Hunter Flores
You're american if you and your extended family have been good for america for generations.
minnesota brothers. my maternal side was Minnesota stock for the first three generations they spent on this strip mall mutt factory continent.
Please expel the Somalis, Montana sends our regards!
Brandon Foster
Yeah, and there are several problems with the phrase "free white person."
First of all, the literal interpretation of that phrase is illegal by today's legal standards. So it's impossible to enforce that today, unless you want to spark a civil war that will forever harm the right.
Secondly, what is a "free" person. By today's standards, you could easily argue that a person who is in debt or a person who does not own property is not truly "free." Once again, this presents problems in the modern milieu, and those problems could easily erupt into widespread violence and civil unrest. Again, it is highly likely the right will lose on this.
Most important aspect of this problem, is how do we define "white?" It has been a problem that goes back hundreds of years to the colonial era when white people from the colonies were always looked upon with suspicion by the Europeans on the continent regarding the true purity of their white ancestry. For North American populations, there may need to end up being some compromise where "passing" for "white" will equal being "white," otherwise there could be widespread conflicts.
All in all, it is really unrealistic considering current circumstances.
Oh, and, by the way, the ethno-nationalist imperative directly contradicts the original Masonic ideals of the Founding Fathers, once you take these ideals and translate them into modern social and cultural sensibilities. I mean the anti white nationalist sentiment is not just exclusive to leftist SJW freaks anymore. It's been a part of the conservative movement for decades now, courtesy of free market fundamentalist academia's influence on the conservative movement.
Civic nationalism is probably the best possible compromise at this point without things getting to violent or too chaotic.
America as a colony was founded by two kinds of people: religious and profiteers. While there were puritans in the North who escaped a godless society to build the city on the hill there were also providers in Virginia around Chesapeake Bay who came to make money, escape debts and prison sentences, etc. The profiteers made America great. Germans made the first car - Ford made the first adorable mass produced car. Planes, phone, electricity, etc. Everything was profit driven. America is about making money, everything else you do is your business as long as you don't break the law or fuck with other people. The freedom is just not getting fucked with by anyone including the government. America was built on pragmatism. If we don't have brains we buy them by luring in intelligent men dangling money. It doesn't matter if an idea is crazy, we throw money at it and see if it sticks, if not we move on. Europeans always saw us as these unsophisticated, crude, mercantile, cultureless sumbags yet we surpassed them with our scumfuck profiteers ways. Yes everything is oversized, overdone and here, because our greed created abundance. But now America stepped away from it's great origins because the elites and academia embraced leftism, the government became controlling. Now you will be fucked with and you can't do shit about it. Ethnonationalism is great and I still like it and it could be a good alternative to pragmatism, because at least we could focus on the advancement of our race. Civic nationalism is shit tho. Spics, nigs and others aren't my brothers and never will be. We will always be too different and there can't be a unity. The only way to maintain this shit tier multiracial society is going back to pragmatism and become more libertarian. If I can't serve my race I'll serve my wallet, and others can do the same. Fuck the elites, decrease the power of government and academia and cancel gibs. Welfare leeches can fucking die. Embrace survival of the fittest.
