Are you a lost soul sick to death of the housing market? Self-destructive economic policy enriching countries who hate our guts? Spending of tax dollars on useless crap? On big corporations who move offshore and don't reinvest into their communities? Do you wish you could just go off to some unoccupied land and start your own country?
Well, it's actually not so impossible. If you're a nordic, you have the right to vote in norwegian local elections. Local government in Norway are split up into multiple "Kommune". With urbanization, dwindeling birthrates etc. some Kommunes have small populations which number in the hundreds. Such dying kommunes are often subsidized by the central government. Of course... these places have no idea how to revitalize their dwindeling community.
But I do. Here's the plan. With 500 of you, we can through the ballot box overthrow a local kommune and sieze complete control of local government.
Then we 500 can try to mobilize the local population to achieve the goal: Full employment, growing living standards, a healthy environment for child rearing and low crime rates and a future with low or no debt.
Encourage hiring and buying locally, if we can't buy locally, create the industry locally. Essentially, turn the kommune into a mercantilist area. If everyone understands why this needs to be done and is mobilized in acting in this way, then riches will stay in the kommune and the local economy will grow without requiring tarriffs or other legislation. All of this with the support from the local government which we could control by being the democratic majority.
What if you're not a scandi? Well if you for any other reason can vote in local elections in Norway, you're in.
Nothing wrong with: 1) Lots of people legally moving to one area. 2) Lots of people legally voting in local election 3) Elected people legally do what they were elected to do.
Jaxson Cook
Dying and aging villages exist in all european countries. In Italy and Romania some are already empty (just houses, 0 people left). In some countries, you get money from the government if you move in such a place and Putin offers free land in Siberia. I've heard of people trying to do this kind of thing, but they are few and usually fail. I think only a small one (less than 100) succeeded.
Bentley Sullivan
TL;DR QRD? t. boomer property owner
Isaac Clark
TL;DR: Scandis are legally allowed to vote in local elections.
Therefore if lots of people move to a kommune and become the majority. They can vote themselves into power which will give them the power to avoid just being another debtslave in the city.
Isaiah Price
The state just shits on kommune decisions tho.
Nathaniel Peterson
OK, a call to move my 'home address' to a specific point in Norway at a specific time. As a Scandi I can instantly vote, works the other way too (niggers needs years of residency for local stuff and citizenship for Tinget). OK, the left do this shit a bit. But they are mostly unemployed/unimployable, so it's easy enough for them to fuck around in this way. I need to tend to my business. Now if election is in winter-time. Then it isn't to difficult for me. So >long of the short Time and place But don't expect too much. Most right wingers have duties where they are.
Elijah Morris
>What a nice little rural-all-white-people village you have there >Wouldn't it be a shame if someone was to put a huge asylum center there youtube.com/watch?v=drWcqjICCBc
Dominic Brown
have you thought anything about infrastructures needed for that amount of people how about food, healthcare and sanitation. These things need to be preplanned and organizational steps taken for its realization. Without these cornerstones you're basicly dirty hippies in middle of nowhere.
Also needs proper addresses for this to work. Can't just squat somewhere and acquire voting rights. Someone would have to buy land and build some infrastructure or something. If it's a tiny little place with 100 people there won't be 500 registered living spaces there for someone to move into. I'm all for plans like this and I'd join if it was viable, but there are steps missing here.
Christopher Rivera
Have you considered wearing hoods and burning them alive in the centre? Anyone comes along and asks what happened, you all deny involvement, claim it was the work of "far right extremists" and that your community did all it could.
Lucas Turner
What? Who?
Landon Cruz
Haha norge är så löjligt, hahaha.
Brody Young
Oh, sorry, I meant to reply to Please do not burn natives alive.
Are you somehow referring to our Saint Hans thing? You know those are just straw dolls right? A remembrance of a less civilized period of our history
Oliver Rogers
I've thought about this quite a bit, but I figured there's not gonna be interest and mobilizing 500 people to do anything is quite a stretch.
Anyway: These kommunes typically have a history of having supported way more people already, since they're shrinking.
This can be done very quickly as accurately portrays. Just 'move' during the election and vote. Then what can be done is this: The kommune owns lots of unused land. As incentive to bring people to live there, the land can be sold cheaply with strings attached. Strings like, when you buy it you must live there, when you move you must sell it to the price you got it and the kommune has 1st priority on buying it back. Effectively rationing and price-controlling land to keep out all the opportunist parasites.
Once people have land, then paying for someone to build a house is not nearly as expensive. You could also get the kommune to get a state-subsidized housing loan on your behalf. This is best possible loan in norway but it's usually reserved for kommunes, poor people, asylum seekers, etc. In the past it was for everyone but it has degenerated. However, if the kommune is responsible, there's no problem and everyone can get this type of loan to build a house.
Anything else needed is just a job created. The ideal conditions (land, house and work) would incentivize people to relocate.
James Miller
>Never speak, Sweden. Don't be that harsh. There's still 2 or 3 sane Swedes left (that one seems lost though) As for the practically of this thing. If the role was reversed, I could easily offer legal accommodation for 6 adults at my house. It'd be a bit cramped, but perfectly legal. If such an arrangement were to be set up the other way. I'd bring a camper. No-one says you have to be at your legal residence ALL the time. But setting this up would leave people wide open to doxxing. So unless you know of some kommune where a large portion of the population is ready to risk waking up to some regressive leftists handiwork on your front door >WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE, WE KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILDREN GOES TO SCHOOL style shit. Then this seems like a dud.
Anthony Fisher
You're not going to find a kommune who wants to sell enough cheap land that a horde of people that vastly outnumber the locals can move in. Think of it from the localfags perspective, if they did something like that some Akbars could just move in and take over everything. These schemes you're talking about where kommunes promise cheap land and subsidized construction is usually about a couple of land plots. I've been checking them out myself. The largest one I ever saw was like 10 plots.
For this scheme to work you'd have to have the locals in the kommune on your side in the first place.
Levi Hill
>For this scheme to work you'd have to have the locals in the kommune on your side in the first place.
Wrong. The whole point is you move in with a majority, elect yourself into power and get this done.
Jonathan Morris
Move in where? Where are you going to find 500 legal dwellings in a 100 person kommune?
Zachary Johnson
You don't need a residence. You just need to be registered as living in that kommune.
Jayden Lee
You can't just register your address at someone elses house.
Brandon Cooper
1) You can, but that won't necessarily be accepted.
2) You don't need a house. You can just register yourself as homeless in that area.
Jason Rodriguez
Well, yes, you can. But as the application goes from the folkeregister to the kommune in question, it will be rejected as you say.
And no, you can't register yourself as homeless in a different kommune. You can register yourself as homeless in the one you already live in, but to actually move your residency to another kommune you need a legal dwelling.
Grayson Hall
>And no, you can't register yourself as homeless in a different kommune. You can register yourself as homeless in the one you already live in, but to actually move your residency to another kommune you need a legal dwelling.
Gonna need citation on that.
It's fully possible to move to a kommune without having a residence there. Worst comes to worst, just move in a tent or trailer. It's not illegal.
Carson Cook
I fully support this idea and am gonna back you 100% Nordbro. My great great grandmother was from Oslo. I miss the homeland. :(
Jacob Diaz
>It's fully possible to move to a kommune without having a residence there. Worst comes to worst, just move in a tent or trailer. It's not illegal. You need permission from the kommune to move your residency there. Kommune law is made to protect the locals. Otherwise whoever who had a bit of organization could move in and take over a kommune. This is not a new... problemstilling. There are shittons of crazy organizations out there who outnumber the local population in lots of kommunes. If it worked like you think then some christcuck cult could just move in and take over a kommune and btfo the locals. Or antifa faggots move in and vote to build the biggest immigration center in Europe. Kommune law doesn't work like that.
But the key thing here is that the kommune in question has to accept your request through folkeregisteret. Imagine the poor fucking functionary at their city hall when suddenly 500 applications from some dubious homeless people pour in just before their election. You think they're going to approve them?
Gabriel Phillips
Any idea what kommune to select and what the housing is like there?
Hopeless guy with around $50 000 in savings here willing to take the step.
Carter Reyes
>You can just register yourself as homeless in that area Oh, that wouldn't work here. >In Denmark it is forbidden by law to be homeless.
My impression is that all that is required is that you are registered as bosatt in folkeregisteret in that kommune by june 30th (so, any project like this would have to be for next election cycle). Then you're counted as living there in manntallsforing. That's all thats required to vote.
The kommune doesn't really have a say as far as I have seen.
Carson Miller
>Gonna need citation on that. Well, reviewing the law it looks like you can't register yourself as homeless at all. I did find a loophole for you though. According to Forskrift om folkeregistrering § 5-1 if you stay in a kommune for 6 months you will get residency there regardless. So in theory you could move your 500 people there, squat in the forest for 6 months and then they'd be residents of the kommune.
In reality they'd bring in police from all over to break up your squatters camp to prevent this from happening, but it would be theoretically possible at least.
Actually, I found a second loophole for you. It seems the law against vagrancy has been repealed to cuck to the gypsy faggots. That means squatting in a sense isn't illegal anymore. Now, there are still laws against squatting more than 3 days on state land, due to allemannsretten... but!
Theoretically then, you could move 500 people to a kommune. Have them move camp every 3 days for 6 months. At this point they all become residents of the kommune and as far as I can tell there's nothing the government can do about it.
Jackson Williams
It's an interesting thought, as long as the net connections are good and there is an airport within a reasonable distance (300 km or so) I think it could work, a lot of engineering jobs can be done with much working from home.
So essentially, just move in a rented trailer before getting manntallsfort. Then go home. Live as normal. Vote in election.
Nathan Harris
Or just do the 'Polish worker' thing. Register 12 people in a legally rented single one room apartment.
Adrian Perry
Registering the move is a matter of sending an application on the internet. After which some case worker will have to look over it.
At that point it's just a matter of telling the truth. You intend to move there and live there.
Kevin Miller
>Just for the record, that's the old law. Here's the new: No it's not. There's a difference between a law and a forskrift, but both are valid. But according to the law you posted § 11-1 and § 11-2 it's still the local skattekontor who decides whether your residency application is valid or not. A rented trailer is not a "bosted." In that case you need a permit from the land owner.
Brody Harris
Yes. This you can do. But again, it's very doubtful that you'll find 500 legal dwellings like this in a 100 person kommune. In that case you need to have the locals in the kommune on your side in the first place, like I said at the beginning.
Austin Rogers
And then they dtarted placing migrants in myo your kommune...
Jeremiah Adams
>If you're a nordic, you have the right to vote in norwegian local elections. >If you're a nordic I assume you mean citizen of one of the nordic countries, and not of nordic blood. You let swedes come over and vote?
Dominic Flores
Sleepyposting: an elegant shitpost, from a more civilized age.
Ryder Perez
This is seriously a good idea Bump
Angel Hill
Wouldn't there be somewhere where 'holiday cottages' have been re-branded as >hus instead of >hytte to accommodate refuges. But still empty / used for holidays only because the refugees didn't want to stay there, they wanted the city. Sweden have at least one such incident. I remember the news, where they refused to get off the bus at a luxurious holiday 'hytte' resort. Because they wanted the city, nothing else. >provide or else! Or did you handle that shit the way we did?
>skatteetaten.no/person/folkeregister/flytte/i-norge/?174790=174792 >Hvor du kan melde flytting til >Du må melde flytting til en fullstendig adresse for en bygning, bygningsdel, bruksenhet, eiendom eller annet objekt som er registrert med adresse. Adressen består av en veiadresse eller kun et gårds- og bruksnummer.
>Lov om folkeregistrering (folkeregisterloven) >§ 5-1.Hovedregel om bosted >En person registreres med bosted der vedkommende regelmessig tar sin dognhvile.
>§ 11-2.Kontroll av bostedsadresse >Dersom registermyndigheten har mistanke om at en registrert bostedsadresse er feil, eller at et oppgitt bosted i flyttemelding er feil, kan den >a) be om en nærmere redegjorelse fra vedkommende selv om dennes bostedsforhold >b) innhente opplysninger fra en huseier eller utleier om hvem som bor eller oppholder seg på eiendommen >c) innhente opplysninger fra posttilbyder, ekomtilbyder, nettselskap og stromleverandor om vedkommendes kundeforhold.
So no, it's not just a matter of sending an application on the internet. This application will be reviewed by the local skattekontor in question and there are several criteria that must be met. A trailer on state land is squatting beyond 3 days due to allemannsretten. A trailer on someone's private land requires permission from the landowner.
Levi Hughes
But that forskrift is opphevet?
>it's still the local skattekontor who decides whether your residency application is valid or not.
Seems that way if you report to the skattekontor that you have moved, they then report to skatteetaten. However you can also report to skatteetaten directly that you're moving. I don't think the case workers are at kommune level for this. They're all centralized in a few places.
If they accept you're living in a trailer in that kommune, they'll register you as living on Ukjent Bosted (insert kommune here). Which should be enough.
>A rented trailer is not a "bosted." In that case you need a permit from the land owner. Couldn't you squat on public land?
There's also the avenue I haven't really considered because it's too far fetched... but isn't it the kommunes responisibility to give you shelter if you have no shelter and show up with nothing?
Joshua Phillips
>But that forskrift is opphevet? Where did you see that? I can't find that it is. But regardless, the actual law says the same thing so it's a moot point, the forskrift just reiterates it.
>However you can also report to skatteetaten directly that you're moving. No, as the law says, then it's sent to the local skattekontor by them for approval. Either way it goes through the local skattekontor, which is on fylkes-level so you're right it's not kommune-level.
>If they accept you're living in a trailer in that kommune, they'll register you as living on Ukjent Bosted They don't. You need an actual address.
>Couldn't you squat on public land? Again, no. You need an actual address. Squatting on public land is just squatting. 3 days is all you get due to allemannsretten.
You could potentially do this
Sebastian Garcia
My girlfriend perhaps found another loophole. She claims there's no law-defined limit to how many people can live at an address. If that's the case it would perhaps suffice if you managed to get a farm or something and then just start registering a shitload of people living there. I have to look around a bit to see if that's actually the case.
Henry Jenkins
Extremely good proposition, Jan. Sadly I can't help you. I CAN point out however that we in Germany have a rather similar situation with our villages
Camden Cook
Why don’t you find some good cops and army men to be on your side.
Look under Adresser. Ukjent bosted with known Kommune is a possibility.
Jordan Stewart
Yeah, but that's a property THEY can designate you with as per their own investigations. It's not something you can apply for. The application requires an actual address.
Jason Russell
Best of luck and Godspeed user
Ethan Baker
What municipality are you aiming to take over? How can I help?
Julian Diaz
I'm a Swiss citizen. how hard would it be for me to legally become a norge? My great-grandmother was a norge but that seems like too little to matter.
Jace Myers
I have an ideal candidate in mind. But just gauging the viability first. It all has to be legal and plausible.
Ian Wilson
If you're White I would gladly help you in any way I can. We need more White people in Norway.
Xavier Cook
Yes, the Norwegian real estate market went crazy in the past couple of years.
Jeremiah Reed
But seriously, I think I've found the most sane way of going about this that could actually work. After reviewing the laws there doesn't seem to be a specific maximum number of amount of people that can live at an address. There are hygiene laws that potentially could come into play, but in itself there's no rules about it. Since the law dictates that "bosted" is where you actually sleep, we must assume that any such place must have at least sleeping spots for 500 people and the proper hygienic facilities to handle their waste.
But, there are also no upper limits to how many people can co-own a property. And if the property is big enough and has normal sewage facilities, then there wouldn't be any problem. If you actually had 500 people, and they pooled their resources to buy a decent sized farmland that is connected to sewage, then I guess it could work? Like a fucking borettslag?
Luis Brooks
I'm white enough my skin burns if I'm outside for more than ten minutes
Henry Smith
Yeah seems plausible.
I had hoped to avoid having to first buy an expensive plot of land. But again it's not so bad since this is a dying kommune after all.
The thing about multiple people living on the same address. There is no law against it but case-workers will lift eyebrows. However if 500 people are actually living there then there shouldn't be a problem.
Shouldn't be hard to get 500 non-degenerates to behave and not shit where they eat, turning it into syrian refugee camp.
Easton Robinson
Lmao just imagine 500 nordic shitposters all moving into a big farm and going about their daily routine. The news coverage would be hilarious, because they'll soon have to find out that this camp of far-right lads is THE safest municipality in norway. It could also have quite the high per capita income, as you can do a lot of work from home (coding, engineering, media design and similar come to mind). Now get some dudes that can build/maintain you farm, and some that can utilize the land so you can produce your own food, and you'd be golden.
Dylan Foster
Well, I don't see any way around actually acquiring some land first, unless you want to go with the other idea of a nomadic 3-days at each location for 6 months gypsy idea. Or if you find someone with enough land who are sympathetic. You can live in trailers on a piece of private land with permission from the owner though. I think the law says you have to move brakker and the like once a year or something, but it's just a formality. So in theory if you get a big enough land you can just get a shitton of brakker and live 4 guys per brakke.
Getting the resources to buy a large piece of land shouldn't be too problematic if you're actually able to round up 500 guys. Most of them would be poorfags I suppose, so some would have to bear a higher burden of cost, and this would have to be reflected in the actual ownership of the land. But it shouldn't be impossible. If 500 guys can't scrape together a couple of millions then they're not viable for life anyways.
Nathan Williams
Protip this place has its own hydroelectric dam which sells power for billions. Everyone living there is basically NEETS with infinite pocket money. You go there work in the sweater factory for 3 months and earn your benefits and you sre sorted for life. I am actually planning to go there for retirement. You are of course not going to get 500. As for Norway I much prefer my hometown of Skien. It's already the main hub for Norwegian nazies anyway. And if you want you can visit commander Breivik in the local jail.
>Move in where? Where are you going to find 500 legal dwellings in a 100 person kommune? You don't need to. You pick a place with a declining population. Hundreds of houses are allready empty
A farm works well. If people get snoopy about it. The explanation: >temporary workers Will go a long way in order to make officials to just shrug it off. Most farms in Norway could use a shit-ton of work in order to turn them more 'modern farming friendly' (clearing rock, leveling field)
Nathan Martinez
Bumping
Mason Wood
ah this is what they also did here
Oliver Anderson
>I need 500 good men I'm not into GBs/bukakkes, sorry, faggot. You'll need to get your cum fix elsewhere.
Why do blacks always have that ear tumor thing? What is that?
Tyler Butler
this ^ it wil be a sausage party since most women are liberal whoring thots.
Leo Powell
>faggot wonderland as if cuck island isnt exactly that already.
Owen Gray
Go have sex
Robert Turner
Had already. Why so mad, Bro?
Anthony Gutierrez
Tell me about Norway and how a computer engineer with a few years professional experience would do there? Always been curious.
Though I’m Italian Anglo and I like the warmer weather. Not sure I’m a fan of cold long winters
Caleb Cooper
Im interested, where in Norway do we have in mind?
Jose Gomez
>Im interested, where in Norway do we have in mind? I have suggested Dale, Hordaland because of infinite cash and power from a huge power station. The population is only slightly more than a 1000
Aiden Hall
Certainly! Sheep-shaggers get served first! Special guests of honor If people come there to party, yeah. But if people come there to build a safe comfy town. Wives can be mail-ordered from shit-holes (yeah-yeah, but at least slavs are white)
So is the plan to turn this into a far right commune like those that popped up in the us during the 90s, or are we aiming to fly over the radar so that the government doesn't find out about it and shut it down by dumping 1000 migrants on our head.
Found a muslim kommuna, nobody will ever find out. You only have to kill all the ziocons.
Carson Moore
t. José Smith
Bentley Martinez
It's not. I considered it as not ideal.
Elijah Hernandez
But then the arabs will come user. They're not white.
Benjamin Ortiz
That's cauliflower ear from getting punched you sissy, busted and broken ear cartilage swells up
Justin Campbell
ha-ha, good one. We might as well talk about re-settling Jan Mayen then. Which could be awesome. But no matter how comfy, safe and wholesome we were to make it. It's impossible to attract even Ruski-Rural-Grils to such places. Even Færoerne have to go yellow fewer to get a gurl. It has to be somewhere that isn't too isolated. Or it's going to remain a so-called sausage fest
They stay away, they are here for the gibs. Not the muslim amish life.
Alexander Watson
>So is the plan to turn this into a far right commune like those that popped up in the us during the 90s, Op's plan is bigger than that. It would be the largest rightwing comunity in the world outside of amazonas. Op's plan would however never fly under the radar. The smaller the place the more suspect we are going to look. But hey in Norway you are secured neet bucks. the problem is going to be women though. Unless we all import them from Thailand
Easton Bailey
>Færoerne have to go yellow fewer I actually know a Færing who impregnated a nigger
