Isn't this interesting. Tell me, who might be the real troublemaker here; - Israel is 71 years old. - America is 527 years old. - Iran is a staggering 2500+ years old.
The country the jews want to attack next, is 35 times older than their own country!! That same country is 5 times older than America. (The current world-power abused by ZOG to actually attack, abused through the jewish controlled Federal Reserve.)
If the country has been around for so FUCKING long, who might be the real troublemaker here? It's the fucking kikes, bro. We need the America back we loved. The jews are destroying the world. FUCK the racist and insane KIKES.
Iran is 1795 years old. "Iran" began with the Sassanian empire. Sassanids called the country Iranshahr, which roughly means "land of Aryans", and it was gradually shortened to Iran over time. Achaemenids are not really important to Iranian identity. Fuck Israel and Saudi Arabia, cunt. If it weren't for the mistake of Cyrus the Great, your shitty race of vermin wouldn't exist. It's thanks to Iranians you even exist. Show gratitude or die. Mao was backed by Jews.
Cameron Bennett
cyrus was jewish my dude, and persia was exclusively ruled by jews since then to this day.
Brayden Hall
Israel is 4000 years old.
Jeremiah Bell
>oh and israel is 3200+ y/o the fact that people in Israel actually believe this is one of the best arguments against the "ashkenzis r smart" meme. you're about as much a hebrew as i am a narnian.
Levi King
Israel does not exist
Michael Butler
I don't see how Iran being an "old" country is relevant in any way sage
Luke Harris
Persia (Iran) during that time tried to destroy western civilization on multiple occasions. You can start learning history by googling: Darius I
Daniel Roberts
>cyrus was jewish my dude, No, he was Elamite, dumb fucker. New evidence came out showing he was more Elamite. >persia was exclusively ruled by jews since then to this day. It's the other way around.
Jose Foster
>cyrus was jewish my dude jews need to WE WUZ because actual jewish culture is so disgusting that not even jews want to be part of it.
>Iran during that time tried Jews today succeeded.
Justin Lewis
Iran was never called Persia, and Iran did give formative influence on Western religious traditions.
Adam Morris
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Ryan Stewart
The Iran of today is not 2500 years old. thats like saying modern Greece is the same as ancient Greece.
Brandon Foster
NO! YOU DON'T GET IT GOY, ISRAEL IS ETERNAL, IT IS BEYOND SPACE AND TIME! THIS DIMENSION BELONGS TO G-D'S CHOSEN! NOW DIE FOR ME.
David Bell
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Nathaniel Williams
Iran is 1795 years old. Many celebrations, traditions, and some literature (Zend-Avesta) were retained since Sassanian era. The language spoken during Sassanian era (Middle Persian) is closer to Modern Persian than is to Old Persian spoken during Achaemenid empire. Iran's national epic, the Shahnameh, also does a relatively accurate job of documenting Sassanian Shahs during its third portion, but it spends barely time on Achaemenids. Many Iranians are still named after Sassanian figures. The word IRAN itself came from Sassanian era.
Dominic Cruz
Note, if you remove all Arabic loanwords, which is easy, from Modern Persian, then it becomes very similar to Sassanian Middle Persian. It's as simple as saying "darood" instead of "salam".
Christian Walker
According to who? You fairytale book? Hahahahaha
Luis Hernandez
>existing for a long time means you dindu nuffins Mmmm hmmm.....
>2019 - 1776 = 527 You can't even do basic math and now you want us to validate your opinion? Fuck the entire middle east period.
Blake Baker
Iran might want to avoid pointing out their history. They would literally build pillars of skulls 50 feet high and other 50 foot pillars of flayed skin of their slaves who rebelled against them. Iran has been home to some of the world's most brutal empires.
Chase Adams
Your thought process is entirely illogical. Based on your phrasing you're probably underage too. Consider throwing your big body against an oncoming train.
Ian Stewart
Jew spews fake news
Logan Green
>Fuck the entire middle east period. America is basically a colony of Israel and Saudi Arabia at this point, so you mutts are more Middle Eastern than Iran, which in fact has ancient Central Asian roots.
Sebastian Flores
Stfu, kike or Arab or Turk or w/e the fuck you are.
>doesn't deny being Iranian diaspora lmao Poosian boy over here loves his homeland so much yet he would never go back if given the chance
Lucas Miller
I like America, but I dislike (((America))). Right now, America is a colony of Jews and Saudis. You have bigger problems than taking your aggression out on Persians. Jews pretty much control your country.
John Cox
It puts America's founding at 1492, the earliest you can push it imo is 1585 with Roanoke
This
Cameron Myers
yes it did
Oliver Campbell
Oy vey! It's six million years old!
Noah James
“Modern” Iran is much younger, and has its roots in the 1500s. Much like China and its “5000 years of continuous history”, you find lots of outsiders conquering and killing off large numbers of the local population.
Elijah Ward
>moving the argument from having or not having a war into "why have a war? THEY DINDU NOTHIN"
I'm glad we established the fact, America and Israel will open Iran a new asshole and all the crying they do in the UN is worthless. we are literally taking our time for the pleasure of it and watching Iran descend into utter chaos as the economy is non existent anymore.
Iran was born when the macedonian BULL banged Iranian whores who spread their legs for the superior greek warriors.
Christopher Gomez
No, it was never called Persia, you dumb piece of shit. It was called Iranshahr during Sassanian empire, and Haxāmanišiya during Achaemenid empire. Persian refers to "Iranians from Pars region", but there were many Iranians in both Western and East regions like Daylamites and Sogdians.
Connor Ramirez
Iran is going to kill every last Jew in Israel. Iran has allies and will win WWIII. All the boomers will cry and start self-flagellating themselves when Israelis are purged from existence.
Luke Lee
>1776 was 527 years ago
Ethan Russell
Plenty of cultural elements from Sassanian era persist, and there was never ethnic displacement.
Levi Kelly
>America is 527 years old america wishes it was 527 years old
Nathan Torres
>Iran did give formative influence on Western religious traditions. dumb peice of shit
Hunter Davis
Part 01/02
Summary of Chapter 7 of Michael Stausberg's Zarathustra and Zoroastrianism. It was actually written by Anders Hultgard.
During the Achaemenid Empire, Cyrus the Great freed Jews from Babylonian captivity, allowing them to practice their religion, and contact between Jews and Persians continued in the Hellenistic and Roman periods. In the Hebrew Bible, Cyrus the Great is referred to as the “Messiah” by Isaiah, making him the only gentile to be praised to such high regards, and other kings such as Darius, Xerxes, and Artaxerxes are frequently mentioned; the books Esther and Daniel, draws significantly from the life at the Persian royal court, and the feast in the Book of Esther, celebrating the liberation of magus Haman’s evil plot, is an adaptation of the Iranian Farvardigan. Palestine was also under Persian rule for two-hundred years and there were large Jewish diaspora in Western Iran and Mesopotamia; the religious ideas of the imperial elite most likely became well-known by the Jews, and the Judaism, being a minority religion without a state to back the authority of the faith, did not arouse much interest in the Persians. Due to the following significant interactions between Persians and Jews, there is substantial reason to believe Zoroastrianism heavily influenced the Judeo-Christian tradition with the dualism between the forces of good and evil, introduction of angels, personified evil figures (e.g., Asmodeus is based off daeva Aēšma), the eschatological reward for the just and punishment for the wicked, the struggle between truth (Av. Asha) and lie (Av. Druj), and the resurrection of the dead (check Yasna 19).
Caleb Baker
Part 02/02
The idea of a “Day of Judgment” (Hebrew Yohm Ha Din) can be traced to Zoroastrianism’s ‘Frashokereti’, when fire cleanses the world of all evil or defilement, and the belief of the soul reaching paradise can, likewise, be claimed to originate from the Zoroastrian concept “Chinvat Bridge”; a fragment of Qumran caves describes the Day of Judgment as a “bridge of the abyss”, and analogously, Zoroastrians believed in the hereafter, one will come across the Chinvat Bridge guarded by holy dogs. If the person lived a noble life, the bridge will expand and allow them to reach the end, whereby the yazata Daena shall take them up to Ohrmazd’s “House of Song”, but if they lived ignoble lives, it shall contract as narrow as reed as Daena, now a daeva, will pull them into Ahriman’s “House of Lies”. Moreover, the idea of a savior who will lead the world unto light can be traced to the concept the ‘Saoshyant’. Even the word paradise is based off the Avestan pairi daeza. One final note, considering Islam came from Judeo-Christian tradition, there are many indirect Zoroastrian influences on it; the descriptions of paradise as a flowering garden in the Koran descend from Zoroastrian influence, and several yazatas such as Hordād (Av. Haurvatat) and Amurdād (Av. Amərətāt) appear in the Koran.
>the descriptions of paradise as a flowering garden in the Koran descend from Zoroastrian influence this is simply how most people would describe >Haurvatat >Amərətāt you mean Harut and Marut? they were 2 angels sent by god en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harut_and_Marut
am not surprised the Majus (Zoroastrians) came in contact them
Joshua Johnson
Those two angels were taken from Zoroastrian influence.
Colton Phillips
>America is 527 years old no it isn't we haven't even reached the tricentennial yet.
but I get what you're saying.
also, show flag.
Andrew Wood
No, Harut and Marut were sent to Babylon, and the Zoroastrians simply came in contact with them and idolized them, even the jews did the same (they learned the Kabbalah from Harut and Marut after all)
Jeremiah Ortiz
>Moldovan Do you have AIDS?
Alexander Cox
Iran has been a malign influence on the world since it became a nation.
Thomas King
Jews need to leave America.
Colton King
Haurvatat and Amərətāt were Avestan words. Avestan had no common linguistic origin with the Semitic languages of Mesopotamia. They also had huge geographical distance. Zoroastrianism originated in Northern Khorasan in Central Asia. Zarathustra emerged in that area between 1500 to 1000 BCE. The Old Avestan of the Gathas points to this, which is the only portion of Zend-Avesta that goes back to Zarathustra.
>Phonetic similarities are nothing but a coincidence, goy!
Landon Ward
thanks for that knowledge, JIDF
Gabriel Hughes
Japan is 30000+ years old
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan >A Paleolithic culture around 30,000 BC constitutes the first known habitation of the Japanese archipelago. >This was followed from around 14,000 BC (the start of the Jōmon period) by a Mesolithic to Neolithic semi-sedentary hunter-gatherer culture characterized by pit dwelling and rudimentary agriculture, including by ancestors of contemporary Ainu people and Yamato people.
Nolan Gutierrez
Biblical Israel ceased to exist centuries ago. Modern Israel is LARP Israel.
Logan Moore
>Haurvatat and Amərətāt were Avestan words so? it doesn't change the fact Harut and Marut were in Babylon (ancient Mesopotamia)
Justin Sullivan
But that the Ainu, Jap. Not saying you ain't Ainu, but you understand what I mean.
Ryder Allen
When did Japanese people start defining themselves as "people of Nippon"? Words are important because they typically come with more than just nomenclature. Iranians started calling themselves "people of Iran-shahr" during Sassanian empire.
Matthew Rogers
The first instances of Haurvatat and Amərətāt come from Zoroastrian traditions that used Avestan language. Babylonians did not really influence Zoroastrian religion during its initial developments in Northern Khorasan/Central Asia. However, Zoroastrianism did influence Mesopotamians.
Robert Adams
so then we agree, I thought you were saying iran/persia didn't influence western religion, I guess you were saying iran =/= persia?
Lincoln Martin
No, I'm saying Persia is a made up Western word. Neither Achaemenids nor Sassanids called their empires Persia.
Brayden Peterson
Modern Japan majority comes from Korean ancestors that settled the Japanese island and assimilated the southern Ainu tribes. They're their own people from the very start.
John Richardson
Iranian genome has remained relatively stable since Chalcolithic times though it shifted a little more Westward due to Proto-Indo-European admixture during Iron Age. You can model most Iranians in nMonte based on Chacolithic, Sintashta (PIE), and marginal foreign admixture. Me: ~71% Chalcolithic Iranian, ~25% Sintashta, ~4% Mongolian. Most Iranians have over 90% genetic continuity to Iron Age and 70% continuity to Chalcolithic era. However, a nation/culture is more than just genes. The idea of "Iran" came during Sassanian era, hence why I said am interested in when the idea of "Nippon" came into being.
Brody Morgan
>The first instances of Haurvatat and Amərətāt come from Zoroastrian traditions Harut and Marut came in contact withe Achaemenid Empire, they allied with Cyrus the great and helped his in invading Babylonia in order to free the Jews (back when they were god's chosen people) from the tyranny of Nabonidus
Landon Edwards
i guess this is explain why they are mentioned in the Zoroastrian traditions
Tyler Morris
Zoroastrianism developed and originated way before Achaemenid empire. Zarathustra was not a Persian. >back when they were god's chosen people Also, you're kind of stupid.
Logan Miller
what mason jew came up with America being around since 1492? lol
america was founded 1776
Jacob Flores
Zoroastrian traditions developed in Northern Central Asia around 1000-1500 BCE. There are more commonalities between Vedic religions and the Gathas + Zoroastrian scripture than there is between Mesopotamian religions and Zoroastrianism.
Bentley Gray
>Israel is 71 years old
Judea/Israel has existed in various forms since 930 BC but okay then.
>America is 527 years old
It's literally not. The 13 Colonies broke away in 1775, but the Articles of Confederation weren't even enacted until 1781 and the current constitution in 1788.
>Iran is 2,500 years old
The current Iranian state was founded in 1979 when the Shah was overthrown, which is only a fraction of the size of the historical state of Persia and substantially different culturally.
>Zoroastrianism developed and originated way before Achaemenid empire i am aware of that but can you say for certain that the instances of Haurvatat and Amərətāt came before or after the appearance of Harut and Marut in Babylonia? >you're kind of stupid. Jews were indeed the god's chosen people, there is a reason why most of the prophets god sent were jews (Jesus,David,Solomon...) but due to their repeated rejecting and even murdering of the prophets god has cursed them and the rest is history
And who is the trouble maker here? Muslims of course
the Muslims took over Persia after it had been weakened from wars with the West. Unfortunately, a smart, industrious group of people succumbed to the BS and lies of a schitzo, slave holding, pedophile, warlord in Mohammad
Eli Williams
>Jews were indeed the god's chosen people I don't know want to talk to you anymore. >i am aware of that but can you say for certain that the instances of Haurvatat and Amərətāt came before or after the appearance of Harut and Marut in Babylonia? Yes. Look up "Proto-Indo-Iranian religion" which is the platform Zarathustra worked with. Every nation has bad periods to it, T*rk. Plenty of ancient civilizations did disturbing stuff like that.
Jonathan Morales
Iran as it sits now is 40 years old the revolution was in 1979 and Iran looks nothing like it did before that
Adrian Long
>Persia is 2500 years old, not Iran Persia is a made up word by you retarded illiterate burgers. Iran is ~1750 years old. Sassanids were calling themselves Iran. I already explained this. I also gave a bunch of genetic data showing we're not mongrels. Now go die for Israel, faggot, which is what you seem most adamant about.
Sebastian Reed
>is a made up word by you retarded illiterate burger is a made up word you illiterate burgers keep using without thinking about
