/nsg/ - NatSoc General ϟϟ Your one-stop-shop for every redpill known to Jow Forums ϟϟ
Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, Anti-Communism, the Aryan Ideal, Traditionalism, Racial Nationalism, and Racial Identity Movements.
MAKE /nsg/ 24 HOURS A DAY AGAIN! WE NEED TO PUSH THIS THREAD FOR DISCUSSION AND PLACE OUR FAITH IN STRATEGY TO SECURE THE 14 WORDS! Don't just make /nsg/ an image dump, we need our threads to be breeding grounds for actual cognitive 24 hours fast moving discussion so it can dominate the board.
Zachary Hernandez
What happened to the last thread?
Colton Phillips
>only jews talk about national socialism what the fuck is this low quality jew shill bait? 2/10 i guess since i responded lol
Make this general live. We must take back Jow Forums from the drumpfies.
Nicholas Wilson
>Holocaust >"Holocaust" moron
Parker Sullivan
True, tho i am going to drop some redpills for the newfags from reddit. Anyway how about we start this dicussion on how best to increase are numbers outside the internet? My initial idea was national socialist food banks which i outlined in the last thread. Basicaly we provide food to poor white communities that have been left behind by the globalist left and the death of evangelical christianity. The heartland is dotted with post industrial herione filled shitholes and i think it is here we have the best potential to grow as a movement.
do you have any specific towns in mind? My thinking is we move to these towns.
Jose Cox
Are you lads dictatorial or monarchical? I have a hard time relating to many of you NatSoc anons as it appears that you are anti monarchical and pro dictatorial. A dictatorship is inherently inferior to a well run monarchy based on stability upon succession alone. I admit the necessity of a dictator to wrest control from the incomprehensibly reprehensible system of liberal democracies, but I see no reason why one would be averse to reinstating the monarchy once stability is guaranteed. The Wilhelmine monarchs, down to Wilhelm II, were all patricians and allowed the arts, sciences, and society to flourish in a way that i don't believe to be possible under permanent totalitarian rule
What will that achieve though? I'd say the best way to get our numbers up is to be as successful as the NRM in meatspace. But only after we have a clear cut goal of what we're trying to accomplish. The Northwest Imperative is the right idea in my book.
Im only fascist insofaras cultural renaissance, I view it as an auto immune system response to ressurect my dying country. To this extent its temporary and doesnt need a monarchy.
Neither. National Socialism is a meritocracy. Only the people best suited to rule will do so. They're handpicked by the very best to best benefit the nation and steer it in the right direction.
Camden Fisher
Litterally anywhere in west virginia, ohio, western PA or the great planes. West virginia has a median income 30,000 a yeahr and is (litterally, not with any exageration) over 90 percent ethnically white. If you set up on the northern point WV you could actually set up a radio station as well, and braudcast over PA and Ohio leading national elections in /our/ direction >What will that achieve though? recruits. We need numbers user thats the came plan right now >? I'd say the best way to get our numbers up is to be as successful as the NRM in meatspace. But only after we have a clear cut goal of what we're trying to accomplish. The Northwest Imperative is the right idea in my book. user im not going to counter signal any of this, BUT its important to note that we cant do anything without a hell of alot more people they we already have. And the easiest way to get people like you? Feed them when they're fucking staving. And as they're eating? Tell them (((who))) made their family starve.
checked and don't focus on economics, just race. We should start moving to these places, or at the very least buying land there. Radio stations up to our own nation, we should start operating as such too.
So then its an elective aristocracy in which we cede power to a ruling elite and allow them to make decisions at our behest. Is this not simply what really goes on in our representative democracies? How can this be better than having a lineage, defined and educated by birth, that exists SOLELY to rule and rule effective and for the people.
Interesting. I understand America is different from Europe, but I often wonder is the liberal democracy is simply unsustainable by default (it is). You see, the problem with the republic and the representative democracy in capitalism is that, without a guiding hand, it devolves into a race to the bottom on two levels: labor and votes. The inherent nature of the democracy mixed with neoliberal capitalism is that there is always an exploitable market for demand and for votes. The democratic/republican experience has markedly failed: every single global republic.democracy has turned into a glorified elective aristocracy where the aristocrats care more about profit than about societal advancement and their own citizens. We can now say, as if in a mathematical proof, that viewed as a limit that tend to infinity, the republic becomes corrupted. This corruption is the worst type as the populous is placated by their belief that they're important, that their vote matters. As a result, changing the system except by force is nigh impossible.
OH SHIT NIGGERS, WE HONEYPOT'D, OH FUGG :DDD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE >imagine ever considering encountering fed Atomwaffen LOL, like just have big families, faggot. The rest will poz themselves unto oblivion.
'no' Meritocracy implies a contractual theory : the State expresses its need for worthy people by enabling them to conquer higher socio-economic positions. On the other hand, totalitarianism (as in fascist or national-socialist -i.e. aristotelo-thomisto-hegelian- theory) is organicist and postulates that the elite is generated by the State (just as an organism generates its organs), even if the State is not -temporally speaking- first in execution (it is first in intention though). The totalitarian, organistic theory of the State therefore imply that the elite comes from the State itself and choses to subordinate to it by accepting this origin. The elite choses to be what they are and to follow their rules, while in a meritocracy, the elite is just people willing to take high ranks usually just for the sake of having higher ranks. This absence of subordination to a higher good in a meritocratic system usually leads to opportunism, fixism (those who are in higher positions want to keep them for themselves and their offspring even if they are not worthy of these. Which leads to bad stuff since meritocracy ends up degenerating into nepotism.
personally I thinking buying land is the way to go, hypothetically lets say i buy some land, then lets say you buy land next to my plot, another user buys more land next to our plots, we could have land larger than most counties in a short time. Then we can build our own nation from the ground up, on our terms.
>Are you lads dictatorial or monarchical? I have a hard time relating to many of you NatSoc anons as it appears that you are anti monarchical and pro dictatorial
If you have to ask that question.. You are NOT a national socialist. Go back to redit.
Xavier Scott
Socialism in the way Hitler implemented it was a means of caring for and uplifting the people of your nation. Unlike bolshevism which claims to uplift the workers but always in practice oppresses them.
Easton Cruz
GAS THE KIKES, KILL THE RAPEFUGEES AND THE RACE TRAITORS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWW!!!!!!!
>Neither. National Socialism is a meritocracy. Only the people best suited to rule will do so. They're handpicked by the very best to best benefit the nation and steer it in the right direction.
This is a stickler NPC's explanation of national socialism.. Go back to shiddit
Jaxon Lopez
>was a means of caring for and uplifting the people of your nation. Unlike bolshevism which claims to uplift the workers but always in practice oppresses them.
Another spergy definition of national socialism... Damn Jow Forums has really gone down in quality since the lemmings invaded.
Angel Davis
I wasn't really trying for an all encompassing definition.
Jaxson Harris
But we must go further. Totalitarianism is necessary to wrest control from the meritocratic or egalitarian republic as the period of time after takeover necessitates diligent observation and control. The issue, then, arises not from the structure of the state and the elites in relation to meritocratic/organistic, but rather is one which is concerned with the maximization of sociocultural phenomena. Wilhelm II's critique of the Nazi regime was a valid one insofar as it highlighted the inherent foci of the totalitarian system. The foci of the totalitarian system is, as we see, no conducive to long term societal progression and sociocultural phenomena generation. It follows that we must define a "next step." If the survival of the white race and its continued longevity is our priority, then we must simply exist. Rather, we must thrive on all levels. We need to produce endogenous culture: art, philosophy, compositions, etc... These things that make the west the west, that make the white race the white race. Unfortunately, this requires slightly autonomy. Fortunately, history illuminates the path to the exaltation of the white race.
Little child, you know not what you speak. I admire your originality in ideas such as natsoc food banks, but the future of the white race and europe is at stake. Shh now.
Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night. Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night. Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
We should educate people. Teaching positions, especially as a man, are now easier to get than ever. Just dont outright redpill children. Teach them through being a role model, show them what they arey what they can do, who lies and who doesn't. That is enough, the rest will fall into place for them. And if jt doesn't, you still made someone a stronger and more resolute person. It's a win/win really
Isaac Lopez
Well, the national-socialist and fascist states are temporal phases that are to be integrated in classical imperial and monarchist political philosophy. They are dictatures in the Antique sense of the term, and are what the Ancient Régimes lacked in order to stabilize : an organicist process to revigorate the elites by emphasizing the importance of a true conception of the causality of the political society and of the necessary subordination to the common good. And that common good being spiritual, includes the sociocultural aspects you talk about as part of its matter.
As for the production of culture, it exists, but it also is not the prime goal of politics. It is a necessary bonus, as pleasure is something to a point necessary, contained in but not defining the finality of the sexual act, which finality is procreation. Before the great eras of culture, there was usually an extremely long process of gathering materials, compilation of works, polishing of the people through education, and the masterworks were composed thanks to that obscure yet necessary toil.
Did I say that? No. So wtf are you talking about kid?
> "Europe is at stake"
Lol son you're so retarded.
Matthew Ward
So much shit, can't even read.
Jaxson Davis
Neither. Isn't the point of all this, that the people in unison, when they arent lied to by the media and politicians, get to have a say, unless its clearly against the interest of the people? A democratic model based on merits is the most sensible thing imo.
Personally I am a fan of small self regulating communities under a united banner, but that seems to be unpopular
>Jews make threads about National Socialism to steer conversation away from National Socialism The dude who wrote that must be so retarded that he thinks anything counts as a master plan as long as it doesn't seem to make any sense on the surface.
You sound like a spergy accelerationist. Try making a valid argument. >This absence of subordination to a higher good in a meritocratic system usually leads to opportunism It doesn't need to be that way. People inevitably WILL rise from wherever they are to fit their position. But it needs to be based on the merit of their deeds and ideas.
Charles Evans
>Rojava They'd be done for if the (((USA))) wasn't there actively supporting them. Fuck off, commie.
Asher Sanders
>watch a 40 minute video instead of having me defend myself No.
I wanna run away from this country so much, I love our history but today we're just a shallow circus of what we used to be. The apathy our people have about everything and anything that happens to us is overwhelming, I can't take it anymore. Surrounded by immigrants, mostly black and mestizo brazillians and mindless zombies who only care about sports, the football propaganda here is so strong. I just want to go to a place where I'm surrounded by European whites, I'm pale and have straight light brown hair and eyes. I'll assimilate and won't mingle with women if need be
Because most of the population has European descent and those are the people that commit less crimes, vote right and have to pay for social programs for useless nogs. Mutatis mutandis the same reasons as you guys.
IF you are being serious just rebrand. Fuher said don't tell them what you are doing, just do it. In order to do this you will need to rebrand. >Make Socialists Nationalist Again! The modern people love socialism.... Just make them proud of the country at the same time.
Started? user it started years and years ago. There have been hundreds of migrants scattered throughout the PNW living their lives. I guess I should really give the whole story considering this has been going on for over a decade: >Harold Covington was the ideological kickstarter for white migration to the PNW >Northwest Front was (still is) for the promotion of a new ethnostate free from zionist control >Racially aware whites have silently moved in droves from all over the world to start living there >The only problem is that, pushing a propaganda effort to get even more people to come move hasn't really worked over the years because the migrants that have come typically just move there and start living their lives. >There is 0 organization amongst the NWF now because HAC vowed not to put everyone on some sort of list or have get in any big get togethers >That's where the New Awakening comes in >Just before Harold's death the leaders of the NA visit him >He passes on the torch and the Northwest Imperative now is finally in phase II after years of endless talk The Northwest Front is now just an ideological front to get people over. That and it's an archive of HAC's work. The New Awakening is the organization that's actually going to try and accomplish things. If you have any questions about them, please talk to them at riot.im/app/#/room/#NAGateway:matrix.ordoevangelistarum.com Or read up on them at thenewawakening.org/
Jason Reed
Reminder we used to hand out medals for killing nazis.
Samuel Cook
aryan does not equal white
Jackson Nelson
What do you all think about creating a city? Is it hard? We can find a country that don't have a law against National Socialism (Brazil can be a good one, the law says that you can't do propaganda with a swastika and iron cross, despite that, you can be a NatSoc, [dumb country, i know] ).
Nathaniel Campbell
Hotels nigga... DO YOU REMEMBER THE HOTELS HE BUILT?! FUCKING HOTELS NIGAAAA
Caleb Russell
You mean back when America was an actual country and not a neoliberal consumerist hellscape?
Hotels you meme... What kind of race warrior builds hotels and pools for his enemies while he sends his own people to die in the fucking winter against Soviets?
Isaiah Foster
Here's your source if you are wondering by the way. Notice how he fed Jews and took care of them while his own people were freezing in winter?
