I just keep wondering what those people are going to do when basically this earth is straight out uninhabitable and...

Then capitalism becomes national socialism

the entire point is to have a slave class,
so that while we work the rich can enjoy themselves, have normal lives, pro-create usually with two families

it's engineered to make us poor, the rich don't give a fuck about spending money, they're simply hoarding it so they get more attention like a dragon

The woke ones of the elite know nothing can be done to slow this train down, so rather than incite panic among the masses, they just pretend everything is okay and focus on consolidating power among themselves

They don’t care lol, getting mad online isn’t going to help

This plane is going down with no survivors, some are enjoying their time here while they can, the rest can just toil and cry, who gives a shit, literally everyone ends up dead at the same place anyway

It’s almost like there’s a natural order of things no matter how awful they are

first of all they'll be dead long before it happens, the planet isn't that fragile
second, what he really means is "people need to stop buying products they want and if we have to raise an authoritarian government that mass murders them until they live like I personally want them to then so be it"
it's a deceitful and subversive narrative the communists weave about how "capitalism" and "the rich" are the problem, ignoring that for every ore mined and every gallon of pollutant poured there is a civilian consumer satisfied or even a mouth fed.

But if you start talking about practical and humane methods for controlling the population they will go insane and call you a racist. Rather than ensuring humans continue to enjoy a high quality standard of living, they'd let the scum of the Earth multiply into the hundreds of billions while everyone eats insects with no private homes, vehicles, or entertainment.

I am into philosophy and unironically liked his comics cuz it (had) decent humour and references
>Follow this guy on social media
>Legit communist poster
>Don't bother looking at the comic any more

This. Slaves are slaves,nothing more. And about 70% of people are mouth breathers more useful as fertilizer.

Bankers and corporations have no reason or legal obligation to take your concerns into consideration. It's not in the interests of the shareholders to care about those things OP.

Maybe we are just dumb monkeys. Maybe we failed god and are now here to rot on this earthball for our sins like the roaches that we are. IDK

The solution is National Socialism. There is nothing more valuable on this earth than our environment and multinational corporations/NGO government lobbying groups don't give a fuck about that.

Implying communists didn't cause some of the most massive environmental destruction ever. In fact, China is still doing it today, so get fucked.

Oh boy, here comes the webcomic artist with their big boy ideas.

owwwww

>destroying the planet is bad
No, not at all.

how is communism going to help

communists not only way to bring a first World living standard to muh global south but they also want to keep the borders wide open so they can come here and have the carbon footprint of Westerners

how will communism actually tackle global warming short or full blown deinstitutionalization and a return to an 18th century of life

the sad reality is that the only way anthropogenic climate change is going to end is global race war on a literal apocalyptic scale, capitalism or no capitalism, by 2030, if not earlier. wealthy white Westerners who larp as communists simply can't cope with this

why are the Nazis all shilling their failed ideas in this thread ?

Go back to your discord server

>you can’t grow forever

You can if your technology gets better. Is this what socialists really think? We didn’t stop at crop rotation or rotary phones. How dumb are you?

The only thing that kills more people and ducks the environment more is communism

>the peasants improved society

Nope

He's right, but.

>leftist who unironically supports endless third world immigration, the most Koch Brothers, big business proposal imaginable

I'd rather we all die.

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The “natural” order to things would be my guillotine slicing their 1% neck. My pitchfork in their gut and mob rule when those in power far to forget who voted them into their comfy life. I can’t wait for them to push for pedo shit, we’ll get to see real pedos hanged in the streets and riots.

Invent technology against it. The clean eating anti plastic etc movement gets adapted by companies for example

>I cant wait till mob rule
>Forgetting that the mob turns around and licks the first boot they can find as long as they spout enough bullshit
Plebs fucking outplayed again.

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Nigger look around you.
Is your society better than it was a decade ago?
No its full of browns and looks like shit.
Thanks capitalism

Replace the word "capitalism" with "communism" in that pic and u got it right.

Capitalism is the voluntary use of the private property (AnCap) so it was never tried.

Central bank is a planned economy (socialism)
The existence of the state is a form o socialism.

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>pic
very good post. sums of many of the words ills in a paragraph

>bro if we remove government the world will automatically become a utopia

Nothing here has changed though.

>wealth inequality
>demographic shift
>nothing has changed

lol

>>you can’t grow forever

>You can if your technology gets better.

no you really cant.

youtube.com/watch?v=5WPB2u8EzL8

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the largest greenhouse gas is evaporated ocean water
>muh man-made climate change!
tax the ocean, user.

or, look at it this way:
if man-made climate change were real
and it were going to kill us all
then we'd be using force to stop the biggest polluters.
but, we're not at war with india and china, so either
1) it's not man-made
or
2)it's not going to kill us all
either way, you're being dumb

>Implying niggers have been moving into my neighborhood

Of course you cannot. Only a childish mind with no understanding of human impact on nature, would claim that infinite growth is BOTH attainable, and desirable. Capitalism has not made men better. It has not made them be better men towards each other, towards animals, towards, nature, towards life itself. It has eroded solidarity and bred selfishness.

Only a fool would claim that such social structure is attainable OR desirable. It is worthless, poisonous idealogy which has no place in reality.

et al.

These fuck are gonna have to learn one of these days...

Frankly the greatest psyop in history has been that of the Mercantile system, and how it has played the middle class (capitalist) against the lower class (communism).

"Capitalism" is not about 'endless growth', there is no proscription you economic illiterates. This stupid Marxist nonsense is taken from where Smith says "An individual most often seeks to grow his capital" -- as in yea, people like to get more. Capitalism does not give a fuck if it or you grow or not -- it is built upon market fluidity and risk. People are the ones that want this 'growth'...

Furthermore it is not from Capitalism that we get "endless growth that sucks up all the resources"... this is MERCANTILISM -- the system built upon WEALTH EXTRACTION. Capitalism is not built upon EXTRACTION, rather by creation, which is not to be conflated with 'growth'. Performance Dance Shows or other Arts, which can use 0 or close to 0 resources, can be valued in a capitalist market and are wealth creation...

The vast majority of these fabled 'means of production' are and have always been owned by the Mercantiles aka the elites, the Reptiles, the 1%, pick you poison. Far closer to capitalism are the fucking stock brokers who literally use no resources to slush fake 'capital' around, who own no means of production other than that which is publicly sold in small fractions, and who by and large 'exploit' no one...

you fools have the wrong enemy. You wring you hands and beat your breast about 'muh ebil cabilitisum' while the Mercantile system has been utterly fucking the world in disguise.

the joke is literally 'Not real capitalism'. The Mercantile system aka State backed Megacorps, Bullionism, free trade all for the Wealth of Nations. It is the Mercantile system that colonized the world and it still does to this day...

GET WOKE plz

>implying they haven't

based finnbro

Eco-fascism.

Yup.. the world is 'literally' being destroyed. Just stay in your basement son, we count on sheeple like you.

Absolutely not, they aren't worth the cost /labor to put in re-education camps. Captive bolt livestock culling is the most effective way to deal with his kind.

>we didn't get fooled because these other guys got fooled

K.
Enjoy trying to ferment a "workers revolution" when we're in a slave class living in pods, nobody knows or feels any real kinship with everybody else and every single day is a struggle to survive because you wanted to "fight racism" or something by turning every living space into a multi colored sardine can.

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You know nothing about hydrocarbons exploration. Nice chart faggot. And anyway, even if we ran out of oil there are a myriad of long term energy resources that can already be utilized.

I mean, the murder and violent crime rate goes down year over year as prosperity increases. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than anything else.

You guys are taking most of what you have for granted.

Why don't these people move to Cuba if they love communism so much?

We have the honor of having a true teacher. How to be a respectable human being who cherishes nature and sees humans as part of nature, not above it. Living in symbiosis with nature, not dominating and pillaging.

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>the system sort of solves the problems it creates
>worship it goy

I can't wait til the whole fucking thing goes tits up. I don't get it either, OP. I really don't.

Based

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The amount of butthurt this generates proves xir right.

Why see all this trouble, just to play around with terminology? It has very little practical use, whether capitalists themselves or those around them, see them as "capitalists" or "mercantilists". It doesn't matter if you call potato a bodado, it still has ALL the same functions and properties as before.

The problem is unlimited selfishness and greed. At every levels of society, beginning with individual and ending in global community. We understand the harmful effects of selfishness and greed, yet do nothing about them.

Our downfall will be our own fault. This species deserves the future it has to look forward to. Go ask scientist about the most probable future for mankind if we keep our current way of living.

So what if the economy collapses if this inevitably leads to resurgence? Lots of natural phenomena exhibit this tendency.

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>capitalism is literally eternal

how do you people function

If you care at all about harm reduction, you'd see vivicide as a huge positive.

Don't you really understand the reality beyond western humans? Murder and crime rates have no impact on the future of our species OR our ecologic situation. They are meaningless numbers on whole reality.

Do you understand that humanity itself is just a tiny part of larger web of life? Most DEPENDABLE on its host in every way. Our impact is not contained inside our own species, unfortunately.

You're right.
Class consciousness only exists for small groups.
The whole Marxist project starts from a flawed premise that class consciousness is achievable.

This Existential Comics is an extremely low IQ individual.

>calarts

as expected

I get that. What I don't get is why people who describe themselves as anti-capitalist today are also the biggest proponents of more immigration. At least, in this country.

I always laugh when I see the retarded solutions that are being implemented to combat climate change.
Building CO2 scrubbing industrial plants, storing carbon, growing and burning plants to store the carbon.
Meanwhile desertification is a footnote as a result of climate change rather than the major direct cause.

Consumption bro. The beast's entire purpose is to eat. It won't stop until there is noting left. Corporations are psychopathic demons conjured from the abyss. It's pure black magic.

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That problem is global. There is no nationalistic, collectivistic movement (in other words, nationalistic left movement) that has strong emphasis also on the wellbeing of nature. Last one was smashed some 74 years ago.

Marxist socialism won't save you from ecological collapse, either.

Marx had some knowledge of stuff like overgrazing. But Marxism isn't ecologically oriented.
Socialism doesn't provide any guidance for balancing the needs of current workers with the needs of future workers and therefore leads to the same future facing ecological externalities and existential risks that capitalism causes.

unironically this

they are literally egregores, gestalt cravings, and it is we who give them life. if only you know how bad things really are

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no one's talking about marx you fucking mong

>Are they going to retreat to their fucking bunkers and count their useless money?
live in orbit or on a moon base until everyone is dead, then terraform the planet probably

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Technically the tweet is truth. Thinking that large companies care about the environment or low tier cattle of society and what damage they do to said cattle is just pure delusion. Hell, even if I was a CEO in a large coorporation I wouldn't care about cattle people.

System is most resistant to internal change. Those who hold power, simply do not have understanding of any other way of living. Therefore, they cannot be "made to come to their senses". And they will also not voluntarily release the power they hold.

Also, John Does of the world would like everything to keep on going just like before. Man itself is resistant to change. Now, we would need incremental change on whole social structure on global scale.

Man itself is too weak to let go of the ways of the old world. It has to come with violent ways, if it shall come at all.

Leftist anti-capitalist socialists are super pessimistic about everything and think there is some sort of conspiracy theory with money.

no it doesnt

Hope you know conservatives are more environmental friendly than you libfucks. They did a study recently showing it. But wait... only your studies count to fit the narrative. I get it.

He needs to catch up.

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no

>dozens of posters and the OP pic allude to various Marxist critiques of capitalist 'contradictions'

Read a fucking book dude.

literally can't think outside the dichotomies bred into him by his masters

i don't know what these faggots think is going to happen, there is a communist social media influencer position? no the guy who changes your oil is going to run your entire city.

Its almost as if the elite know more and know that the planet isnt really on the brink of destruction nor is it out of resources.

What the elite want at this point is not money, money is nothing and people who think money is still the goal are both poor and stupid. Money is only a goal if youre poor and stupid. What the elite want is Full Spectrum Dominance and they will use any pawn to achieve that. Its why they can fund wahabi terrorists, green party activities and commies all at the same time. Each helps them push an aspect of Full Spectrum Dominance.
>Terrorism: Removing rights and installing the surveillance police state
>Green party: war on humanity in general, teaching people to accept less to the point of surrendering their cars and eating bugs
>Commies: Absolute control over all sectors of commerce, banking, legislature, and media (some of this they already have control of, but totalitarianism would be more ideal than manipulation of a free market scam)

Well, if you are collectivist, anti-capitalistic socialist, you are living in a pretty bad time of history for yourself. This world is dead on the inside, black and lifeless shiny plastic wrapping on the outside.

>capitalism can only be critiqued on socialist grounds, and not from a purely moral, philosophical, or spiritual perspective
>durr the highest values are economic values

capitalism antithetical to humanity. unrestricted consumption for the sake of consumption, which is all that's fucking happening on a macro-scale and if you think otherwise you're dreaming, is eating us alive.

No it isn't. The planet isn't going anywhere, and it's not going to be destroyed until the sun goes red giant. What's at issue is its capacity to support human life. Even then, the ice caps could melt entirely and people would still survive and adapt. The population might not be as high as it is now, but that's not a tragedy.

The planet is in no danger nor are the people , you are in a death cult , get some help.

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So, it's about power. Money is their representation of that power. Do you really think that this is a revelation?

>I literally think only about humans

You fuckers are part of whole faggotry that has brought us to this position in time, in history. You and your selfish, short-sighted minds.

The worst case scenario is 2~6 degrees in the next 100 years , we will be fine. Calm down the world is not going to end ,all the people are not going to die.

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Of course I only think about humans. I am a fucking human. Who else is there to think about? You think wolves think about rabbits? Species go extinct every day, and new ones are born every day. No nation on the face of the earth is going to immiserate itself for the sake of snail darters or panda bears. Grow the fuck up

You just said things didn’t get better under a capitalistic system and I showed you two things, extremely important things, that have gotten better. We could survive without the ecosystem. I don’t necessarily advocate for that, but it is possible. You don’t have a leg to stand on here other than “muh life web”. Well guess what, the ecological system has been disrupted before and it recovered. What makes you think the relatively puny efforts of humanity matches the power of a mile wide asteroid or a super volcano? Hubris works both ways on this one friend. Quit buying into the leftist narrative. In some places life is flourishing. Not to mention, in developed countries that have had capitalistic systems in place for a long time environmentalism and conservation are way more embraced than simpler societies. What happened to the Eurasian lion? Exterminated by ancients in blood sports. What makes you think we’re worse than them?

Take for example what happens because of pesticides and GMOs: if you lose most pollenizing insects, we are fucked.
If a lot of water is pumped in the oceans guess what happens at night when the moon is out - consderable floods because of tides - they also influence the planet's rotation.
Guess what happens if you pump chemicals in the atmosphere - yeap, a lot of fuckery and not just for humans.

Its not all that well out there. If you live in a bsement and don't go out much, you won't notice any changes for now.

Stop conflating capitalism with usury. It will all make sense the second you do.

>growth forever
you faggots really think that growth is only physical and in size? you fucking retard. the growth is in constantly advancing technology, that causes us to do more with less.

Our species is dependant on the whole ecostructure. Therefore, it is ALSO in our own selfish interest to think about other lifeforms too.

Those who care little about lower lifeforms, are very rarely good characters in any other way. Selfishness reeks out from you.

Calm down there are plenty of bee's the GMO's are not killing anyone crop yields are at an all time high.
Nobody is poisoning the air , everything will be fine you just need to calm down and get into see a therapist.

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I want either of you to prove it's CO2 first, so far I've learned greenhouse effect is logarithmic with ppm meaning more will not increase temps as it's saturated and that ppm increases lagging temp increases, implying it's not causal. I won't wait tho because I'll be dead before either of you can deliver.

You haven’t offered a single alternative ITT

You take every luxury, including your electricity and access to the internet, for granted. How the fuck do you think we’re talking right now? Untold millions of people are contributing to this process. Do you think this shit just runs on magic and wishes? How do you feed the multitudes? Why even have any of this shit?

If you really think capitalism is so awful then you shouldn’t partake in what it produces.