"socialism never works"

Only krauts are masochistic enough to want to continue living in this shit world.

>German can't even see red from orange
Impressive Hans

Imagine not having to deal with niggers on a daily basis
I bet your life expectancy would fucking skyrocket

We have mandatory private insurances. Before that the government paid for it all and it was actually a lot cheaper.

America has like 40% shitskins to take care of
It only works if you have a large majority white

>Why doesn’t a country with 400 million people just give free healthcare to everyone?!
>what do you mean you have millions of illegals and niggers who can’t pay taxes to fund it?!

The USA has a military that exceeds all of those other nations combined.

The USN - larger than the whole worlds navy combined.

The US spends its cash as world police - We are the global order. We pay out the ass here to provide the peace that you have experienced since ww2.

Reverse the current demographic trends and end our interventionist foreign policy and we could have universal health care.

>homogeneous societies that are high-trust and enjoy mixed economies boast high life expectancies.
>This will surely work in america, where 22,000,000 out of the 46,000,000 niggers are on welfare.
>This will surely work in america, where 38,000,000 out of 82,000,000 hispanics are on welfare

Look at this clueless goyim he really thinks the US brings peace to the world, fucking kek

"Value isn't arbitrary"
"But I still don't know what it is" -retarded socialist.

Hello retard. People pay less in taxes to pay for universal healthcare than private healthcare in the US.

LOL, fucking krauts think they aren't the laughing stock of the world.
youtube.com/watch?v=J0p780cW4dY

The whole switch to private was a scam to make politicians and their friends rich.
So tired of treasonous faggots.

wow all of these mostly homogenous small countries that take advantage of american r&d and don't pay fair market price for the drugs have better healthcare than the united states #wow #whoa #makesyouthink

Guys why is facebook and google censoring socialist sites?

>your country has universal healthcare
>tax goes up, less money per month from your salary
>go to hospital for a routine check, have to wait for hours before a doctor will attend to your needs
>doctor sends you to another hospital, waiting line is even bigger, you have to spend your entire day near sick people while you're presumably healthy
>finally get sent to the doctor, he checks you for 2 minutes then he sends you out, next patient has to come in
>come out of the hospital tired, sick and fed up with life
>rinse and repeat

Idiots don't fucking understand that most people in countries that have universal healthcare actually opt in for private healthcare because the services are better and the waiting lines are shorter. So you actually end up having to pay for the universal healthcare (aka you pay for other people not yourself) AND private healthcare at the same time. God damn stupid morons, can't wrap my head around how retarded they are.

This, ameritards need to be gassed

Why do people ignore the fact that those who are financially in need receive free government health care in the United States; additionally, full-time employers also provide some form of health insurance or another. Cancer.

>make trillions of dollars in domestic product each year
>can't pay national debt

>gdp increasing
>going broke
maybe you should use some of that healthcare money to fund your schools you retarded italian cunt

irish^

In most of the listed countries healthcare really isn't "free". It's only completely free in the UK, everywhere else you have to pay insurance, the caveat being that insurance rates and out of pocket expenses are capped.
Also the prices of medical services and materials are also negotiated by the government.

We have the German model for example. I have to pay two insurance fees. One is the basic, which is taken from my gross salary and on is the extra which I pay myself. The basic is calculated based on income and the extra is capped at 25€.
The only thing I could get for free without insurance is emergency care. Nothing else.

Our current healthcare is socialist, just infused with corruption too

The costs have been socialized and people pay for others as a rule

/thread

Everyone below this got baited

>Our current healthcare is socialist

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Yeah, now that the federal government has completely fucked it up *in an attempt to take it over*

Thats what they do here, they break something and then say they need to fix it by taking it over

You won't be able to do that if I had my way and have the US leave NATO.
You niggers are going to cause another world at this rate.

It is and i already explained why

That's only if you don't have health insurance. Paying for health insurance is cheaper than what you would pay in taxes for "Universal Healthcare".

>universal healthcare
>every country that has healthcare has less than 100 million people per country
>us has 300+ million

Why do we let you buy our drugs Muhammad?

>if gubmint do something that's socialism

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USA pharma govcorp spend more in ads than in actual r&d

Nobody ever seems to realize that if you give government the power to give you things like healthcare, you’re not just getting healthcare. You’re expanding government and giving them access to your life.

Which is why they can do things. Like breed your entire people out of existence. Secondly, our healthcare used to be cheap. Idiots regulating it is what drives the prices up.

Another point. You do realize that your medical quality is almost completely dependent on us since we are extremely overrepresented in medical research? If someone is going to discover the cure to cancer it’s most likely going to be us. Which they will then allow you to have. In other words you leech off of our system like a nigger on welfare.

Our country's already going bankrupt, might as well just triple the deficit. A hospital in Philadelphia just went bankrupt because 95% of the patients were Medicaid drug addicts, it was essentially a government paid hospital.

>Life expectancy: ~80.
Bullshit. It's closer to 60 because of wide spread baby murdering.

Wow something that the government doesnt pay for is expencive! Basic economics implies that the countries with cheaper healthcare would have more expencive other resources. People still have the same amount of wealth in their pockets. Taxation doesnt give anything to the people it just re distrubutes money from decent hard working people to retards. Basically backwards eugenics. You cant make a country richer by printing or distrubuting money. Now dont pick your nose and enjoy your 4th birthday party.

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That isnt the reason i gave brainlet

Cute selfies

It's less about the number of people and more about who would get the money. In the US, services mean wealth transfer from white to nonwhite. As long as that's the case universal healthcare isn't politically possible.

Imagine being so retarded. Your healthcare is privately owned therefore it's not Socialist.

Thats only looking at it relatively

Because they spend so much the nominal spending on research is crazy

all white countires

>maximum cope

They wont be able to regardless. You need healthy people to pay for sick people if you're going to have a welfare state. Thanks to European nihilism, they have an extreme lack of healthy young people all across the continent. Give it another few years. The pressure on their social systems will keep increasing, and they'll have no way to pay for it.

Healthcare is so massively constrained and regulated that it's for all intents and purposes government owned. 50% of healthcare expenditures are Medicare. Fucking leafs.

>Our country's already going bankrupt
Bankruptcy implies a court of higher authority with which to settle those debts in. No such thing exists between nations. As long as the US has more guns than anyone else, it is not possible for us to go bankrupt.

One day single moms need a living wage. The next day we need wage control to make sure single mom nurses cant afford suvs and lake homes.

>that it's for all intents and purposes government owned.
No it's not you fucking retard.

>they have an extreme lack of healthy young people all across the continent
The fuck are you talking about, mutt?

Listen Canada, you can keep your healthcare, and we'll keep our military. Different people, different values. I know which one I prefer, and so do you.

>its privately owned
Healthcare here is in no way freely dispensable. Costs specifically are socialized across groups and the industry as a whole is controlled by government regulations, and more specifically cost schemes.

The ownership specifically is not socialist, yes, but essentially every other aspect of it is. I know youre stupid but ownership is meaningless in the face of additional metrics like control and administration

For instance, lets say i "own" a factory. The government says what things i may or may not produce, the government dictates the costs, the government is also half my customer base, the government tells me how i must run the business, the government tells me how i can manage employees, etc. You saying this isnt socialism is meaningless and arbitrary faggotry, as if it matters whether or not it is by your specific low iq narrow definition

And they still make and discover most of the worlds medicines (while promoting the disasterous modern lifestyle that causes most of the cancers and diseases they are “treating,” but that’s another subject)

This. Healthcare is a pyramid scheme. Doesn't work without people on the bottom.

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>Imports an unsustainable supply of niggers
>Boasts about having socialized medicine

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>who cares about my health at least muh military has sum big guns

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the problem with US life expectancy is not the lack of nationalized healthcare, it is the lack of any standards with respect to food.

I dunno in Germany, but the effects of healthcare here have been plummeting like fuck since 2015 while taxes been increasing.
Almost as if non-whites make it not work, who would have thought. Enjoy it while you can, Turkroach.

>what is practical vs literal
If i have a gun to your head and tell you to give me your money, even though you choose to do so its as if you are free to choose practically. That is the purpose of your autistic use of the term, to obfuscate the fact that the government is in fact at fault, and you arent not in fact comparing government vs free market

You probably dont even know youre being dishonest in this way because you just think in terms of phrases and buzzwords

>dah gubmint regulating business is socialism
And to make matters even worse you're comparing healthcare to a factory.

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>the problem with US life expectancy is not the lack of nationalized healthcare, it is the lack of any standards with respect to food.
Its niggers. You remove niggers from virtually ANY metric and suddenly the us is on par with any european country. And this is with the hordes of other subhumans

>Switzerland, Chile
>universal healthcare
>Germany, UK, Canada, Austria, Italy, Spain, Greece, France
>functional healthcare

fucking kek

>Equating demography shifts to poor health
You fucking mutts are a special bunch. Why is your health expectancy on average 5 years lower than any country in Western Europe?

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I have health insurance through my job. It covers everything I could ever need and then some. I pay about $2,000 a year, and my company contributes an additional $1,400 to a tax free HSA annually. Most white people have similar arrangements.

Oh look the 'America sucks even though Jews did it to us' thread.

I explained to you the degree to which exercising control is equivalent to ownership, and youre response is another low iq one line left-ism

Its not mere regulation dipshit

(1) Not everyone's workplace covers health insurance
(2) The rising healthcare costs are eating into your disposable income
(3) Health premiums are also rising further eating into your disposable income

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I almost guarantee I have more disposable income than you. And better doctors.

Yep. Americans give zero fucks about diet/exercise/general health. It's so bad that the military brass is warning that our men are not eligible for service in case of a draft because of obesity kek.

>I can guarantee x
>personal anecdotes
not an argument

socialism is when the government does things

Nah its when government control exceeds 50% vs private control

youtu.be/6W4kvJWuVfI

All the American retards think this itt

Imagine paying for Juanita’s six babies. Imagine there are 5,000 Juanitas crossing the border every day. Really makes ya think.

it's a meme mocking americas understanding of it

youtube.com/watch?v=vl24P2RK3OI

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universal health care is not socialism.

its a socialistic policy, its NOT socialism.

Socialism always ends up with massive amounts of corruption and genocide.

>People should be forced to pay for other peoples healthcare
universal healthcare is shit.

The (((insurance))) cartel is afraid.

Socialism is when the government takes my money and pretends to do things.

>counties with universal healthcare
>countries that are either racially homogeneous or on the dole of countries that are
I'm not defending our god awful healthcare system but you're not looking at the whole picture.

>Implying we aren't the ones who work the most in the eu
Seething turks

>muh economics
stfu urbanite, we don't want socialism
we don't want capitalism
we don't want fascism
we don't want communism
we don't want anything to do with your suicidal materialistic cult of endless technological growth

destroy industrial society

Its a stupid meme because generally speaking americans are right about what constitutes socialism

That non response has normalized socialist policies to the point where only complete and total control is considered socialist at all. Moving toward that 51% is properly viewed as more socialist rather than not

Holy shit you're a retard. Private hospitals can even refuse to treat someone in a non-emergency. I don't know why you think government regulation is fucking socialism
>taxes are seizing the means of production
nice one retard

Socialism never works without a homogenous ethnostate- western europe is finding that out now thanks to frau merkel

People use "socialism" colloquially, autist

>I-It's not like we are politically and economically uneducated

Fucking this.
It's nice to see that some people in the EU are awake, and understand.

>private hospitals can refuse to treat
>in an emergency
No, they cant, but even if they could it still would only be on factor in determining control

>i dont know why you think government regulation is socialism
Because control is a more honest measure of a political effect than mere legal ownership. You act like its an on off button because youre low iq and a brainwashed leaf