For me at least, my rule of thumb against ideologues is that if a person cannot name a good thing about someone or something they hate, then they are an ideologue and not thinking rationally. That whatever they say should be taken with a grain of salt and examined carefully.
I know Jow Forums doesn't like Obongo, but prove you have legitimacy in hating him by acknowledging some of the good he's done.
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he deported more than trump
He worked against Israel somewhat.
I have yet to find something positive about this guy. The entire reason people voted for him was because "First Black President w00!" And so far he hasn't done a damn thing for the nation. Even Trump unfucked black community better than him.
trump changed their genetics and crime rates? wow fucking based magapede!
He built more wall than trump.
he deported lots of mexicans
He is charismatic.
Spotted the ideologue.
Humans and belief systems tend to be different shades of gray regarding morality: it's very rare for some to be blatantly outright just evil or good.
i think most of the most extreme ideologues are just gonna silently pass this thread by because they know they've been called out.
prevented a hillary presidency
he's wise and didn't push through mass amnesty even though he and the democrats could have because he puts the league above his team and can do basic math
Everyone's an ideologue. Everyone's fighting for some set of ideas. Having perspective doesn't exempt you from the term. Obama fought for a neoliberal ideology, not enlightened centrism.
I know too much about him, that's why I cannot find anything nice to say about him. He hasn't had as many people killed as, say, the Clintons (that we know of), but he was blowing coke and man-meat in Chicago's bathhouses during his tenure as a state senator. Bathhouse Barry is how he got that name.
Let'd not even start on his childhood, being raised in Indonesia by his single mother. Who is this guy's father? No, really. Who is this man's father?
And his mother? Didn't we see the leaked nudes/BDSM/interracial photos of her with another woman, too? Yeah, thanks mom. Great role model for your son.
Oh. And you can tell a lot about some by the friends they keep. Bill Ayers (domestic terrorist), Valerie Jarret (known Islamist), Susan Rice (expert deep state actor).
Won't even touch Big Mike, the strange pizza bracelet Joe sent to Barry on twitter, the outrageous Luciferean costume O was photographed in. I could go on and on.
You get the idea.
kek
Moar on your hero Obama
I thought he was just a faggot nigger/jew cross breed but it turns out - oh wait that’s what he was.
I’ll need more time to prepare my answer.
>For me at least, my rule of thumb against ideologues is that if a person cannot name a good thing about someone or something they hate, then they are an ideologue and not thinking rationally. That whatever they say should be taken with a grain of salt and examined carefully.
Name something good about raping babies, Discord tranny.
Obongo was an ok president no scandals everything was fairly stable with no major fuck ups if a black man failed as a president it would be bad for society as in the race war would begin early
President Obama sold weapons to nations that use child soldiers, over the objections of Human Rights Watch
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Obama used U.S. Special Forces to train jihadis in Syria
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He did turn the democrat party into the treasonous dungheap it is today.
Obama Let Hezbollah Smuggle Cocaine Into US to Help Seal Iran Nuke Deal
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Obama wasn't a good president. And honestly he doesn't seem like a "good" person based on how he throws his weight around to protect hoaxers. But at the same time a lot of people protect those who deserve punishment so he might not be a bad guy. I mean Bush was crappy af near the end but the dude seemed nice.
you mean like trump did?
Okay then name a positive thing he has done for the nation.
>what are jobs
Typical of a commie.
You're a retard
The Obama administration secretly sought to give Iran access to the US financial system
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Source it.
>In 2012, AIPAC called for "crippling" sanctions against Iran in a letter to every member of the US Congress. In line with this approach, AIPAC has lobbied to levy economic embargoes and increase sanctions against Iran (known as the Nuclear Weapon Free Iran Act of 2013). However, according to the New York Times, its effort "stalled after stiff resistance from President Obama".
why do you guys hate him?
Obama’s farewell gift to Iran: 130 tons of Uranium
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Refute my point.
Nearly 95% of all new jobs during Obama era were part-time, or contract
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President Obama was so in cahoots with tech giant Google that a special watchdog website was created to report on Google execs visits to the WH
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>NOPE
You likely have never heard of any of these stories because the U.S. media was complicit in covering Obama. The U.S. media failed to cover Obama's wars.
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And this is because the Communications Workers of America—the umbrella union for guild journalists at the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post and other papers, as well as for many TV and communications workers, gives 97% of its donations to Democrats.
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And all those liberals protesting the war under Bush? What happened to them? Liberals weren't against the war. They were against a Republican fighting the war.
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And with that amount of redpilling, this thread will die.
Shills have no answer, no response, because there is no legitimate response they can make. They'll lose on the facts, so they won't argue the facts. They'll simply pull out Alinsky's Rules for Radicals and use those, like mocking, or projecting. Those are two of their favorites.
And glowniggers give up on threads like these, too, because they don't want them rising to the level of being noticed by casual lurkers.
Too long to read already know your post is faggotry
He was half white.
Your turn, say something nice about gassing all the kikes
no a commie is someone who only thinks of employment numbers, employment doesn't make niggers less violent
I'm trying to validate Jow Forums's legitimacy in criticism of Congo Obongo by showing they can name some positive things about him and not ideologically only focus on the negative things about his two terms.
Showing me you acknowledging some positives, no matter how little, proves you're not ideologically insane. To openly admit you can't name a good thing about him just strengthens the rule of thumb.
You're an idiot.
>some of the good he's done.
examples, please
>name some positive things
go ahead, i'm waiting
Employment keeps niggers from gibs. Commies are niggers at heart and want gibs. Commies hate employment.
I am happy to tell you the one thing I like about Obama: he carried the office with dignity and grace. Sometimes he had to throw out a lifeline to "the homies," but for the most part, he was an intelligent, tactful politician. We take that for granted, but it has a serious effect on how the US is perceived by foreigners when someone is too plastic (like Hillary) or too loose (like Trump) with their words.
Strengthen your reading comprehension.
so you admit that you can't name a single positive thing from King Nigger's presidency? this is very telling
Isn't that an inflated number because they changed the definition of "deported" to include turning people away at the border crossings?
You're an idiot: you don't understand the point of this thread. Just stop please. You keep shooting yourself in the foot and bragging about how a great shot you are, essentially.
I was able to stay on my parents health insurance until 26 because I was a worthless dope until then
so you admit that you can't name a single positive thing from King Nigger's presidency? this is very telling
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agreed
Forgot my picture.
Most presidents after 1932 are responsible for a tremendous amount of death and destruction. That's a sad fact. The post in question targets his lack of a father, the sluttiness of his mother, the use of cocaine, and THE COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED BATHHOUSE CLAIMS.
Yes, he was a middle-of-the-road establishment politician. Yes, he made his bones in Chicago, the third-most corrupt city in the country. But he also was LESS of an Israeli shill than the other candidates. He was LESS of a warhawk than the other candidates. He was LESS of a virtue-signaling faggot than the other candidates. He seemed like the least-black black person to ever achieve a position of wealth and power. Give him some credit for that.
and you still can't name a single thing king nigger did that was positive. looks like i've won this one
>He was LESS of a virtue-signaling faggot than the other candidates.
you forgot him sucking niggerlivesmatter's dick while shitting on police, reminder that he was the head of the executive branch
>less of a warhawk
>re-escalated the war in afghanistan and dronestruck civilian weddings like it was his job
lmao you're a dumbshit nigger
>and dronestruck civilian weddings like it was his job
i have to clarify that i don't give a shit about dead sand niggers and i encourage this, but in the end you can't say he wasn't a warhawk
>you don't understand the point of this thread.
Here is the thing, nobody can name a positive thing about him because there isn't any. These same people (me included) asked you to come up with one not because we don't know, but because we know there isn't one. If there was, you'd know what they are and would point it out.
But that's not happening.
>sucking BLM's dick
He had to. Really had no choice. But he never did any definitive action that helped them legislatively or legally.
>re-escalated Afghanistan
Compare that to what Hillary or McCain would have done in Afghanistan or the middle east or Africa...
>prove to me by my metric that you are not an ideologue
no, go kill yourself my dood
Killing Anwar al-Awlaki and his son was, IMO, the worst scandal of his presidency: two US citizens, one of them a minor, executed without charge or trial.
>He had to. Really had no choice
so you admit he had no spine. he didn't have to do anything
>Compare that to what Hillary or McCain would have done in Afghanistan or the middle east or Africa...
>would have done
you're using a hypothetical to defend your King Nigger now since you can't think of anything positive. that tells me everything i need to know
He's taught us that we should never vote for a black President ever again.
can i change my answer to this?
>had no spine
No, but he took the expected politically-tactful route. Appease your black supporters in a superficial way and then do what you were going to do anyway.
>would have done
Yes. Hillary and McCain were well-established members of a well-known political elite. It is not hypothetical, it is essentially KNOWN how they would have behaved on the world stage. Obama, despite his shortcomings, was a more moderate position on basically all overseas positions. He was called an anti-Semite for his unwillingness to blatantly fall in line with Israel's ambitions. He de-escalated and essentially ended Iraq. That counts for something to any fair-minded person.
>No, but he took the expected politically-tactful route. Appease your black supporters in a superficial way and then do what you were going to do anyway.
that sounds absolutely spineless to me
OK, so let me give you a similar example: Nazis. If I was talking to a Leftist against this Rule of Thumb on Donald Trump, they inevitably challenge me by proving the RoT by naming some positives the Nazis did.
Couple things I can name positively off the top of my head while still acknowledging and agreeing with the ton of justified criticism against them and their political system.
>Brought Germany from one of the worst financial crisis to becoming a powerhouse nation able to take on the world.
>Created modern animal rights laws.
>Created modern anti-smoking laws.
Again, the fact that you are admitting that you can't think of a positive thing Obongo has done proves you're an ideologue. It doesn't mean the RoT I stated failed: it means you're not able to think logically like Far-Leftists on Reddit would do if I offered the same challenge for Donald Trump.
Lynch that nigger boy
you forgot to name a single fucking thing positive that barry did. i can't name a single thing and i've thought about it. it's your turn, because i can't name anything beneficial that he did without lying
>Again, the fact that you are admitting that you can't think of a positive thing Obongo has done proves you're an ideologue
incorrect. to prove that we're ideologues you would have to present evidence that we're wrong--meaning that you have to present evidence on positive things that obama did. since you cannot, then you haven't proven anything at all
He made Israel mad at him
He was a great president. Incredibly classy and charismatic, and a downright brilliant speaker.
spineless to someone who has no idea how federal or global politics works
agree, even a shitty person can unintentionally do good things, or conversely a good person can unintentionally do bad things, like the expression of a broken clock
>every leader is expected to act like a castrated faggot
while i do agree, this is what is getting us into these problems in the first place. i still assert that what he did was spineless.
This. OP is a stupid faggot.
Until the teleprompter stopped working. Obama also had his speeches written for him.
Spinelessness is a complete caricature of a politician's behaviour. We have a miniscule concept of the forces at place in any foreign/international decision. Appeasing the American blacks was most likely the most intelligent and productive move he could have made. Ignoring them would be chaotic, rejecting them would be an utter disaster.
>and a downright brilliant speaker
>i-i-i-if-if-if-if-if-i-i-if
>teleprompter farts and he can't speak for shit
maybe you think he was a brilliant speaker if you're an 85iq nigger
>Appeasing the American blacks was most likely the most intelligent and productive move he could have made
imagine being this stupid
So does every politician. What's your point? If you think reading off a script and making it look natural is easy, you should try it yourself sometime
Great comeback. How would YOU, the first black president, respond to tens of millions of your constituents calling for actions against the perceived racism of cops nationwide?
>i-i-if-if-if-f-f-if-if-
Not an argument
>Great comeback.
the US has been on full-retard nigger appeasement mode since the 1960s and the niggers only get worse and worse every year. appeasement harms them.
>How would YOU, the first black president, respond to tens of millions of your constituents calling for actions against the perceived racism of cops nationwide?
bust out data and statistics and tell my fellow niggers to stop committing so much crime. but i'm not a nigger
>n-n-n-not-t a-a-an argume-m-m-ment
Killed Osama. I know its a boomer answer but any dead raghead is a good one and osama was raghead in chief. Also his policies led directly to the rise of Trumpism- and while Trump is not a perfect man or president, what he represents is more important than him being a perfect example of it.
>full-retard nigger appeasement mode
Do you believe that blacks aren't entitled to constitutional rights as citizens?
>Burst out data and statistics
And get completely lynched by the media, your constituents, and achieve absolutely NOTHING else in your presidency ever. Not a wise decision.
>Do you believe that blacks aren't entitled to constitutional rights as citizens?
strawman.
deported lots of illegals
had a lot of business tried for employing illegals
You specifically mentioned the "appeasement mode" since the 1960s. The 1960s is when Blacks received full constitutional rights, specifically with the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Where is the strawman?
you left out
>preferential hiring
>preferential treatment in the news and media
>affirmative action
>hate crime laws
and the like. i never said anything about constitutional shit, but if you want to go there, a lot of the civil rights legislation was unconstitutional. for example, the federal government does not have the constitutional authority to force private businesses to serve everyone. if a private business owner wants to slap a big "NO WHITES," "NO BLACKS," "NO CATHOLICS," etc on their business then that is their prerogative. at most, individual states can draft anti-discrimination laws, but no the federal government.
>to prove we can't say a positive thing about Obama you have to say a positive thing about Obama
you haven't really got the 'slimy disingenuous' thing down yet, have you?
>to prove we can't say a positive thing about Obama
not what i said. he was trying to prove that we're ideologues by refusing to name something good that king nigger did. i replied that i cannot honestly name anything. he said that that proves we're ideologues, but in order to prove that he would have to prove our position that "bama did nothing good" by providing evidence of good things he did.
which part gave you trouble, sweetie? i can go fetch my crayons if need be
>he would have to prove our position that "bama did nothing good" ...
disprove*
I agree with that aspect of the Civil Rights Act. But it was an all or nothing vote. Fine. But don't extrapolate that to Obama tactfulness and appeasing to blacks in the 21st century being irresponsible or spineless. It was a very useful and productive political move.