Gasoline is far less efficient than an electric motor. Energy production is far more efficient in large scales like nuclear, coal, natural gas and even the fringe methods like solar. You can leave your garage with a full charge of 300+ mile capability every day. Infrastructure is more efficient (trucks and pipeline is more tedious than electric transmission lines, largely that already exist). They’re incredibly fast. They’re simpler to maintain.
If you haven’t yet test driven a Tesla or similar, do it. I am a convert and believer now.
I know all cars have risks, but for how few of them there are on the road, Tesla's seem to burst into flames a surprising amount. I think I'll wait for their safety to improve, or for an electric car from a real automaker, not a tech company.
We need better battery tech, too. Where are my fucking supercapacitors?!
In a major metro area about 40 miles each way go and from work. Well within the charge range. That said, I’ve taken it out of state with ease on Tesla’s supercharger network. It’s fast and easy to charge and cheaper than filling gasoline.
I also own a gas powered SUV. They have their place. But I think most people would benefit from an electric.
Lincoln Anderson
Better tech is needed, always. But it’s pretty dang good right now.
Do you still have a flip phone while you’re waiting for the iPhone 20 to be released? Just jump in. You’ll own more than one more car and phone in your life.
Bentley Carter
and pollute more, it's merely a shift. you think batteries pop out of the clear sky?
Samuel Rivera
Everything has a cost. I believe this to be a smaller, more efficient impact. Try actually reading what I already wrote.
Parker Garcia
Electric cars burst into flames with the greatest efficiency!
Lucas Morgan
batteries are fucked in cold weather. They degrade.
Juan Bailey
that all natural organic lithium
maybe you need to do more homework before you post
So your car runs on coal? A coal powered car? Wow, now that's steampunk.
Aaron Jenkins
This pic says it all.
Carson Bailey
Why nobody can design a micro gyro to charge the batteries while driving like a regular motor does is beyond me.
Christian Rogers
I'll be dead in ten years so i don't care.
Carter Roberts
Drive for 300 miles and then spend 1hr + charging it using DC "Fast" charger Not to mention the ecological catastrophe mining resources for battery is. Thank you, I'll wait for hydrogen cells.
Noah Jones
>200 mile range Sorry I need to go places and can’t spend half the day waiting for a car to charge up. Plus all currently available electric cars spy on you like crazy.
Austin Edwards
no i won't onions fag
Brandon Thompson
Nah
Connor Lopez
Gasoline cars never catch fire. Do they? Gasoline is inert. Especially 20 gallons of the stuff leaking all over the scene of the accident.
Jonathan Anderson
electric cars are a meme. the batteries have to be replaced every 8 years, and they are the most expensive part of the car
Colton Carter
They don’t degrade. Heat degraded batteries. Cold temporarily shortens their endurance.
Anthony Garcia
Actually it'll be neither. Hybrid tech is the future. The most efficient way of providing power for transport is having a fossil fuel engine that powers a generator that supplies power to electric motors at the wheels. This is why all modern trains and heavy military vehicles use this form of power. Anytime power has to flow a distance from a powerplant, there is a drop in efficiency.
Xavier Hughes
A 50 mile range go cart isn’t the aim of this discussion. We all know gasoline powered vehicles started out with 400 hp and 500 mile ranges, right?
Jack Nguyen
Sorry sweetie but I love the feeling of handling a hard manual rod in one hand and a wide open wheel on the other People who drives automatic are Orion as.
Brody Walker
>Sorry sweetie but I love the feeling of handling a hard manual rod in one hand Sounds pretty GAY DESU
Adam Walker
Coal, yes. Nuclear, definitely. My utility has a large ownership in the largest nuke plant in the USA. They also purchase electricity from hydro.
The point of this discussion isn’t to push solar and wind and trash on coal. Coal is still an efficient way to produce electricity.
Joseph Rodriguez
oh so you need little brown kids to dig up MORE organic lithium?
Jonathan Davis
You have no idea what you’re talking about. You have an emotional bias and aren’t willing to discuss the topic objectively.
Nathan Rodriguez
And you’re going to be waiting a long time for that hydrogen cell
So your points and arguement are shot with your cognitive dissonance statement "everything has a cost".
In the 80s a few cars where made that got 40 mpg. Some of these cars are still on the road in parts of the USA. The ability of the gasoline engine has been suppressed for a long time. It is cheaper, more reliable, and better for the environment once you get past the pozzed public school and western media brainwashing.
Right now it is absolutely retarded to think we are going to replace the cars and trucks on the road with battery operated ones. The environmental impact implicated is high, and it may not even be possible. It is a fucking meme.
Brayden Evans
Enjoy your slow acceleration and working up to an RPM to produce 100% torque.
No we won’t there isn’t enough lithium on the planet and they know this but they’ll sell you the dream and take your money before they let you in on it.
Yeah, no. I know this is the soiboy dream, but the average age of cars on the road is 12 years in the USA, and 8 in bongland so you'll be waiting at least 20 years, and energy density of batteries is still utter shit despite ~180 years of development thus far.
Electric motors are not more robust. Transmission lines are awful and unreliable. The rare earths needed for batteries have as large if not larger carbon footprints than gasoline. Shut the fuck up, retard.
Julian Green
range sucks in a hilly city they made a car that could climb up a vertical wall if it had grip somehow, good for them. but it drains the battery fast, and unlike a gas car it doesn't get lighter as it uses fuel
I don’t give a flying fuck about your ‘carbon footprint’ dipshit.
I swear some of you are so programmed into ‘muh libtards’ and can’t parse information and reason worth a shit.
Thomas Stewart
I’m thinking his wife’s son has a bigger child support payment coming from him.
Justin Barnes
In 10 years you wolnt be driving shit. You wolnt have power or gas.
William Perry
Your whole argument is it is more energy efficient: it isn’t. So shut the fuck up using that as a metric you fucking dumbass. Just because you like lithium ion dildos up your ass and your father failed to be there to turn you into a man, why should we suffer your eye poison?
Brandon Peterson
Gas mileage sucks in a hilly city. Next.
Benjamin Torres
>gasoline less powerful that electric.
Ok retard
Zachary Edwards
Says the bong who drives a shitbox opel on his way to the dentis— oh.
Carter Clark
Jeep living in your moms basement blaming all your troubles on everyone else, hoping for the apocalypse that vindicated you.
Henry Thomas
It doesn't snow where you live does it?
Nathan Baker
On behalf of /o/, suck more cocks OP. You'll have to kill ^us^ first.
>bmws are good because they're fast Are you retarded?
Caleb Edwards
Yes it is. You people complain about CAFE standards (and rightly so, fuck the epa) and how cars are all beginning to look the same, yet shit on a technology that will enable some uniqueness in vehicle design and style. Can’t have cafe economy standards if you don’t have fuel economy at all to worry about.
Eli Parker
What is it with trannies and cult like loyalty to billion dollar corporations?
Gavin Cook
Cuts battery life in half, and if your electrical infrastructure runs on coal your electric car's carbon footprint is now greater than a v8 truck. Without massive nuclear expansion electric cars are useless. And we haven't even gotten to the toxicity of the batteries yet.
Charles Lee
That’s right. Tell me how long it takes to get your motor up to the peak performance RPM, while the electric motor is instantaneous. I’ve got the equivalent of over 500+ hp in my AWD electric car that will smoke virtually anything you put it up against, including your shitbox 2004 kia your grandma gave you.
Jason Robinson
It does. Somewhat reduced range in the cold. Not a big deal like fearmongers make it out to be.
Joshua Butler
The funny thing is it’ll beat most Ferrari’s too. For considerably less money.
Carter Nelson
>instantaneous
Fundamental misunderstanding of facts, just like thinking cutting your dick off makes you princess peach
Cameron Adams
I have white children with blue eyes that carry my blood in their veins. Something tells me you can’t make the same claim.
Josiah Johnson
a top line model S has the same range as an average ICE car. The ICE car still weighs much less wet, and suffers less loss of range from going up and down hills. For hills the efficiency of the transmission doesn't matter, it's an issue of the energy density.
Ethan Thompson
Why are tesla cucks so massively insecure?
Kevin Jenkins
>bmw’s are good because they’re not fast.
Nor reliable. So what’s left?
I’ve owned both BMW and Mercedes. Next.
Colton Myers
like Applefags, they buy the marketing.
Cooper Stewart
Do you know what “instantaneous” means, you dumbass nigger? Youre either trolling or a hopeless idiot that eats paste.
Christian Phillips
Sorry about those teeth and that tv loisens, guvnah. Maybe you can pass a background check to buy a butter knife with which to kys
Juan Robinson
I’m neither a tranny nor loyal to anything or anyone. I simply want to bestow humanity with the pleasure of my wisdom and greatness.
Does your wifes son even like you, you seem like a bit of twat. Anyway i think you've definitely converted everyone to homosexuality with your stellar performance in this thread, well done reddit.
Tyler Martinez
Tesla has better fuel efficiency overall
Ethan Young
I’d love to see nuclear expand.
>cuts by 50% No it doesn’t. That’s simply wrong. You’re parroting bad information. You should feel bad.
>thermal efficiency nuclear: ~30 >coal:~ 32 >Cogen nat gas: 45% Cogen can’t be used for baseload power production due to maintenance requirements. >high compression ratio gasoline engines with cooled egr:~40%
Jonathan Rogers
Shit tier fud
Grayson Diaz
Answer the question. What rpm do you need to reach for peak torque or hp? And what is needed on the electric motor to reach the same?
I guess these Tesla’s aren’t actually smoking gas powered supercars. Must be everyone’s imagination.
Dylan Ward
Saw an idiot that ran out of battery near my place. looks like a god damn pain in the ass
Christian Ward
True
Brandon Barnes
Answer. What rpm does your rattletrap 97 mustang need to reach?
