Is there any chance to Romania become kingdom again?

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Aristocratic elite was straight from Greece or the principalities. The rest is true.
Nothing of what you say is an argument for or against monarchy.

Of course its not tell me are you from Tr*nsylvania?

No and neither do I like our former kings. That does not mean I'm against monarchy and social stratification.

monarchy is useless, brainlet.
a council of learned elders from the military, economics department, propaganda sector should rule the country.
they have to be ethno nationalists. they get tested with a lie detector every 6 months.
it's that simple.

No, that's utopian. Ant there is no simple solution to our problems.

you mother is utopian.
name one flaw in what I proposed.

0 chances.
It barely got some of the wealth back.
Most never experienced it.

Like all dictatorships, it gets highly corrupted and life would be a nightmare.
Also, when you only have 2 social classes, one will rule and the other will be more or less like slaves. You need at least 3 to balance each other out, like in feudalism.

It could work after the UK model.
But who would invest in bribes to smooth in the political opposition and to sway the public opinion?
You'd need a lot of money and for what?
They won't have any real political power, they can't have not in 2019.

Wait wait wait, where's the error?

Nobody wants that.

Monarchy isn’t useless

1. The leader is tied to the nation, a stronger nation means a stronger dynasty so the monarch has to make the state more powerful

2. Because their child will inherit, they are far less likely to rob the nation because their child will rule after them. People tend to care about the wellbeing of their child, so they would not rob the nation, they would prepare it for their child

3. Less court intrigue because not everyone can be the leader. In a dictatorship anyone can, this is the same in a democracy. If you have a clear line of succession, far less people challenge it simply because they can’t be the leader without staging a revolt. This also means the chaos of selecting another leader is completely fine in a monarchy.

It's a globalhomo world out there and the country has to be globalhomo to survive. If not, you're either irrelevant (Brunai), rich enough to not care (Gulf) or under lockdown (Iran, NK).

Time of chariots and battles of conquest is long, long, long gone.

It's 2019, friend.

Bye frens.

Their dynasty wasn't ruled by actual Romanians tho

That's exactly what I was saying and since nobody wants it, you'd need to shower it in cash.
And who would want to do that since the royals are not so wealthy just for a glorified pension?
I just don't see it happening.

How's monarchy working out for you?

>it gets highly corrupted
I don't really care about that. I'd rather live in a favell than with these pink haired freaks.
and you can't prove it will be corrupted.
>life would be a nightmare.
provide proof.
>when you only have 2 social classes
there are no classes. only leaders and followers.

>The leader is tied to the nation, a stronger nation means a stronger dynasty so the monarch has to make the state more powerful
no, literally one of the nigger german kings in Romania fled with some whore out of the country.

>Because their child will inherit, they are far less likely to rob the nation because their child will rule after them. People tend to care about the wellbeing of their child, so they would not rob the nation, they would prepare it for their child
who knows what kind of transgender nigger faggot he will be.

>Less court intrigue because not everyone can be the leader. In a dictatorship anyone can, this is the same in a democracy. If you have a clear line of succession, far less people challenge it simply because they can’t be the leader without staging a revolt. This also means the chaos of selecting another leader is completely fine in a monarchy.
weren't these niggers whacking each other to get the throne?
you're full of shit.

yeah, thankfully

The monarch is literally a figurehead in my country, nothing more. The true problems started coming up when the monarchy was removed by Oliver Cromwell, he then let the Jews come in en masse.

>One nigger King left
A monarch would nowadays only marry someone from the nation they are a monarch over. Also politicians do shit like this all the time

>Who knows who he will be
He will be trained to be King for the entirety of his life

>Hur dur there’s still intrigue
Across there is, but there was less.

>A monarch would nowadays only marry someone from the nation they are a monarch over. Also politicians do shit like this all the time
you're just proving my point that monarchy is just as shit.
>He will be trained to be King for the entirety of his life
we are born with specific mental and physical traits. you can't just train anyone like some chimp and expect to perform accordingly.

How is the situation in Romania currently? Any sign of removing blacks/muslims?

they are removing themselves.
stupid faggots can't leech so they leave westwards.

Except I’m not proving your point, a clear line of succession to prevent much intrigue led by a leader who is trained for the entirety of his life is better than most. Notice that the Byzantine Empire outlasted the Roman Empire and the Republic by double their years. Notice that the Russian Empire outlasted the USSR. Notice the German Empire outlasted the third reich.

true.

Anyone I’ll be back in a bit to finish this debate

The situation is horrible and we are more left wing and ethnically replaced more than ever.

Do you see anyone talking about EthnoNationalism/White Nationalism? Or keeping blacks/muslims out? I'm not sure how bluepilled Romania is.

>the gay mafia
yea they coming to get ya, retard

>The monarch is literally a figurehead in my country, nothing more.
sure thing m8

>a clear line of succession to prevent much intrigue led by a leader who is trained for the entirety of his life is better than most.
how is that any better than a council of highly trained ethno nationalists???
>Notice that the Byzantine Empire outlasted the Roman Empire and the Republic by double their years.
notice how that the byzantine empire is now a turkish stool.
>Notice that the Russian Empire outlasted the USSR.
notice that none of those exist today.
>Notice the German Empire outlasted the third reich.
idem
notice how you mention empires while I advocate for states based on ethnicity (ethnicity still existing to this day, after thousands of years).

>Do you see anyone talking about EthnoNationalism/White Nationalism?
The opposite.
>I'm not sure how bluepilled Romania is.
The most blue pilled country in Europe.

Do you see hope? How is Orthodox Christianity and traditionalism in Romania? Or is there a lot of degeneracy still?

I want a mommy Dancila dynasty.

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>provide proof.
prove that Oprisan is corrupt

>Do you see anyone talking about EthnoNationalism/White Nationalism?
there is talk of keeping outsiders away but white nationalism is cringe to mention here. we don't have an imperial past. there's only ethnicity. there is consensus for deporting gypsies. but that's the closest thing you'll get.

>Do you see hope?
No
> How is Orthodox Christianity and traditionalism in Romania?
They have joined the EU bandwagon of one religion project.
>Or is there a lot of degeneracy still?
Degeneracy is everywhere you will not find traditionalism or conservative views in this country.

What are your plans for the future if you see no hope? I believe there is always hope, especially seeing as how EthnoNationalism is becoming increasingly popular around the world. Not popular enough to get into power, but at least its being talked about more often, a sign of hope.

I just googled his name. his some baby face psd member, yes?
I don't care about local politics.
psd is a chameleon party. they don't really have an ideology.
as a general rule you're not guilty unless you're found guilty in court.
the court of dildo revolutionaries in the street is null.

>stupid faggots can't leech
not because they're stupid it's because your gibs are low cause your economy is shit

>Do you see anyone talking about EthnoNationalism/White Nationalism?
The whole political scene is one big left so absolutely not.

>What are your plans for the future if you see no hope?
I am going to leave like everyone is doing, I doubt that ethnic romanians will exist on this land in a couple of decades especially after the far left will win elections again.
> I believe there is always hope, especially seeing as how EthnoNationalism is becoming increasingly popular around the world
Not here, we never had this type of mentality,everything was based around christian belief and morality so ethnostalist ideals never took root because they were anti christian.
>Not popular enough to get into power, but at least its being talked about more often, a sign of hope.
Even in USA such things are a meme everything you have is the kosher alt right with the zionist Trump, I dont believe anything will change to save your people unfortunately.

not really, we need a single party theocratic autarky.

most of them are from education exchange programs or very wealthy arabs. Can't really remove what's not exactly there.
If you're taking leeching niggers /gypsies, they're moving west which is a good thing for us, but ultimately gave us the bad reputation
there's no right wing party in romania. The closest thing is unironically PMP(barely got 6%) which is still bad because they want European army & federalization.Again,no real right party.
People live 'too well' culturally to give a shit about the future

you mad?

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There's no right party because you don't need to for now, just like there's no real white nationalism for the same reason. On top of that you now have examples of what happens in western europe.

There is no right wing because its against the cultural values and norms of integration and acceptance and everyone adores the West and EU, we are the most pro EU nation in Europe, this is even more so in the youth, or whats left of them if they havent left already.

You clearly don’t understand British politics.

A council of highly trained ethnonationalists? An interesting idea but would still fall to the ideas of corruption. Let’s say for example, you’re a man on the council. You seek power like all men in high positions, when your other council men die you begin to fill the council with your own men, they are incompetent but have some loyalty to you, they might not be as fanatical as you for ethnonationalism. You end up dead, your little goons now run your council, they completely sell out and plot against each other, letting Jews and all sorts of creatures run the realm with them.

The third reich doesn’t exist today.

But anyway I agree with you, a monarch in itself doesn’t have to rule over an Empire. The tribal chieftains generally gave their power to their sons and they were based on ethnicity. Also, you mentioned genetics playing a leading role in leadership, I agree 100, genetic engineering will be a thing soon, you can create the perfect leader if you desire.

It would quickly change if your government tried to import a lot of people, even if it was non-muslims high IQ asians. Unless you had a big economic growth next to it.

>A council of highly trained ethnonationalists? An interesting idea but would still fall to the ideas of corruption.
as I've previously stated I'd rather be poor and living in a favela than be surrounded by pink haired freaks. I don't care if there is corruption. and it's not a fact that there will be corruption. it's a variable like everything else.
>when your other council men die you begin to fill the council with your own men
you don't pick them. there will be some system. test, exams and such. lie detector tests. anyway, now we're getting into logistics.
>You end up dead, your little goons now run your council, they completely sell out and plot against each other, letting Jews and all sorts of creatures run the realm with them.
if they're ethno nationalists then they'll want the system to keep working otherwise the pink haired orcs will invade.

>It would quickly change if your government tried to import a lot of people
They are doing this already the number of foreign workers is doubling each year and the same is true with giving of papers to become romanian or temporarily living here.
>even if it was non-muslims high IQ asians
There are so many Asians working here in restaurants,constructions,oil rigs and agriculture that they have made their own sections in most of the towns.
>Unless you had a big economic growth next to it.
Its mostly driven by consume not real growth.

I'm glad we reached to an agreement.

>yes?
How come he's not doing time?
If you have solid proof give it to the prosecutors.

Mad that your economy is shit?

>I’d rather be poor than live in degeneracy
Absolute agreed, I’m merely explaining the flaws of council rule. Council rule is perhaps the most chaotic and unnatural form of government the world has ever seen

>You don’t pick them
I’m always curious to hear about your viewpoint, but being vague about it isn’t helping anyone. I’m afraid you must be concrete in your views to truly argue them.

>They will be ethnonationalists
I’m afraid power doesn’t work that way. The people at the top will always be the worst. I would like to add on to your idea. Instead of a ethnonationalists council running the state, they could act as advisors to the Monarch.

This thread is full of low test Romanians that are a disgrace to their people.

>Brother Romas, it is in you that the hopes and strength of this country lie. You are also the happiness of tomorrow.

>Do not gather for yourselves curses, but blessings.

>The enemy is attacking at the Dniester and at the Tisa. He also tries to disrupt the inner peace of our country.

>Our deliverance is in Labour, Honour. Love of country and Faith in God.

>Be careful. Call onto the righteous path all those who straying have crossed over to those without a people and without a faith.

>United around the Throne and under the shadow of the tricolour banner, stand watch for the peace of the country.

>Tell the foreigners and foreigner-lovers who try to disturb us, that around us a national guard has formed that watches, that it will fight those wishing to sow discord among us.

>Romanians everywhere; workers, craftsmen, soldiers and peasants, be worthy of our ancestors and of the call of these times in which we live.

>t. the manifesto of Constantin Pancu, the bear of Iasi, placed on walls across the city in 1919 as Bolsheviks and Jews sought to take over the country

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I’m glad we did. You are very idealistic and have interesting ideas.

>I'd rather be poor and living in a favela than be surrounded by pink haired freaks.
Oh yea?
Well you get both in Bucharest.

What happened to the anti-romanian bong banter.
You people make me sick, you know that?
Just cause the royals of Romania are related o your royals.
Limey cunts.

if they bring asian workers for construction projects and at the end they fuck off back home to their families then I don't care.
stupid asians willing to work for nothing, lol.

what the fuck are you even trying to imply?
that he's guilty of something? a judge decides this.
the only thing I'll give to a prosecutor will be a load of semen.

>Council rule is perhaps the most chaotic and unnatural form of government the world has ever seen
you use exotic epithets like chaotic and unnatural. not sure if you're trying to bring an idea to the table or be a poet.

>I’m always curious to hear about your viewpoint, but being vague about it isn’t helping anyone. I’m afraid you must be concrete in your views to truly argue them.
this isn't something I've put serious thought into developing. mainly because this system has to collapse first.
the logistics come later. just like with all systems! they didn't come up with a mountain of laws and regulations in one day.

>I’m afraid power doesn’t work that way. The people at the top will always be the worst. I would like to add on to your idea. Instead of a ethnonationalists council running the state, they could act as advisors to the Monarch.
you have an imperialist reflex.
here the monarch has the power and the advisors are just that.
is the monarch supposed to be an ethnic nationalist?

Dc memestead? Esti ceva tip de retardat sau ceva?
Ashamed that I didn't knew of this.
And yes ITT there are the usual "I'll leave romania for good" fags
Losers, things are decent and its becoming nicer from year to year

>what the fuck are you even trying to imply?
You know he's corrupt, prove it.
Before you were asking for proofs.
You see how hard it is to prove something, retard.

>if they bring asian workers for construction projects and at the end they fuck off back home to their families then I don't care.
Why would they choose to go back if they make here more than they make in their country? You think they will throw away this opportunity? Do romanians leave from other countries or bring their families, think for a moment.
>stupid asians willing to work for nothing, lol.
You are incredible smart, instead of changing the laws and to make romanians stay here and take those jobs and make families you would instead give it to foreigners.There goes all of that ethnic vision of yours once profit hits you.

Bucharest is full of degenerates.

>You think they will throw away this opportunity?
This tremendous opportunity.
Best thing for them will be to move west.

As much as I hate BucCcarest, they are relatively decent, lately only the progresist propaganda was fed to the people and they think that with "progresism" comes progress in economy and others
An counter movement needs to happen, true
Cluj is worse

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we think of romanians as being the stupid fucks who work for nothing. irony is lost on you.

I don't live in ferentari, bucko. It's a big place. I manage. I adapt and overcome.
>You are very idealistic
I'm a hardcore realist.

what the fuck are you on about you filthy animal? I don't know who that fucker is. it's not my job nor do I have any interest in sending him to jail.
if you have beef with him than you should stalk him and engage man on man love. faggot.

>Why would they choose to go back if they make here more than they make in their country? You think they will throw away this opportunity? Do romanians leave from other countries or bring their families, think for a moment.
of course they wouldn't be allowed to stay here. to bring their families or to marry some bitch. this would be verboten, of course. they only come to work. just like they do in salami arabia and other shitholes with common sense rules.

>instead of changing the laws and to make romanians stay here and take those jobs and make families you would instead give it to foreigners.There goes all of that ethnic vision of yours once profit hits you.
again,you're mixing things.
if I have a labor shortage and I need workers then it is acceptable to bring insectoid asians to wageslave for me.
I don't like all romanians. actually I think a good percentage of romanians should have stones ties to their necks and thrown in the Danube.

No fuck off. Nobody should rule over me. Muh kangz is dead. They are no sons of god more than I am.

>BucCcarest
It's like an industrial chicken farm there.
Grey, dusty and mostly dirty.
Degenerates all over the place.
Burn it ans salt it.

we don't think about you at all.

>I don't know who that fucker is. it's not my job nor do I have any interest in sending him to jail.
>can't into civilized conversation
Typical subhuman.

my "we" was inclusive, as in "the West".

>of course they wouldn't be allowed to stay here. to bring their families or to marry some bitch. this would be verboten, of course. they only come to work. just like they do in salami arabia and other shitholes with common sense rules.
But thats what they do either marry with a woman or work enough to get citizenship, they dont go back.
>if I have a labor shortage and I need workers then it is acceptable to bring insectoid asians to wageslave for me.
By solving your demographic issue and by investing in automation there is no need for foreign workers or immigrants.But what can I expect of you another soulless capitalist with his elitist views thinking he is better or superior.

Gooks don't speak for the West.

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try again

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Tbh your "nothing" its "a lot" in Romania
Maybe in the last years prices came to be closer, but in the 90-2010 the west was for making "easy money"

I hope not , i hope romania will be drag itself out of its shithole and not get buried further down by some greedy king/qween

I figured as much, it's good to hear you've caught up though

This romanian twink knows what he is talking about and dont

>caught up though
On the prices of things, in fact for thec for example we pay more than the W because our importers are jewfags

Others areas, not so much

Cars made here are more expensive than those imported from Germany, let that sink in for a moment.

how can that be, aren't the wages lower ? don't they want to sell their shit ?

This, Monarchies are great because most problems in government come out of the trouble of figuring out who exactly owns the government
And monarchies already have that figured until the end of times im very simple and intuitive manner

I dont know the same is true for example for agricultural machines made here they are 1/3 more expensive than those that come from Germany.

Bring back the Phanariate regime.

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how bad is globohomo in Bulgaria? Or have they not reached you yet?