How are people on minimum wage supposed to survive without the government's help?
How are people on minimum wage supposed to survive without the government's help?
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Or you'd need to pay below average rent.
>The minimum earner can't afford the mean rent
wow
if you're going to use the average rent you should compare it to the average wage not the minimum wage
is it impossible to live below average rate in us
“Average” doesn’t take into account the various kinds and classes of rented homes. High end apartments and apartments designed for more than one occupant heavily skew the perception of the “average” price. Want a bigger/more luxurious apartment? Get roommates.
1234 ? Mortgage payments are only 600 a month where I live. A two person household can easily afford a house here. Not all houses are the same nor are all earners. Such a stupid statistic.
Stop having kids and live with roommates instead. It’s not that hard, I only pay 300 a month in rent
>I know! Let's flood every single city with uneducated foreign nationals and drive wages down and rent prices up!!!
FPBP
If minimum wagies could afford "average" rent, then there would be a shortage on "average" places, and cheap places would become more expensive due to demand. So the average price would INCREASE as the cheap places become more expensive, and all we have done really is increase inflation with no benefit to anyone.
Yes a mcmansion where I live is barely 1500 a month.
Good luck buying a house if you're making minimum wage with no money to put down.
>How are people on minimum wage supposed to survive without the government's help?
They don't survive. Republicans want them dead. They're too pussy to flat out say this though so they sugar coat their language.
Minimum wagies pay minimum rent
Average wagies get to pay average rent
My rent was half of my income and I could live comfortably. Where the hell is that "less than a quarter" bullshit coming from?
Learn a skill and get a different job. People can do that in their free time.
Not every job needs to support a single person (much less a family). Teenagers and bored moms need jobs too, let them have them.
Learn to make more money. Or live with 8 niggers.
>A two person household can easily afford a house here.
and half the states have cohabitation laws that result with it being given to the woman if she leaves the guy
also
>your gf has to work to live
fuck this faggot shit
the purpose of minimum wage laws is to garner votes from the economically illiterate
I'm honestly hoping we go into anarchy/communism for a couple decades just to switch back to capitalism
the other purpose of minimum wage laws is to stop unskilled labor from competing with skilled labor
>Minimum rent
There's no such thing.
Split the rent with someone else, pay below average rent, move to a cheaper location, stop looking for handouts.
You get a roommate
Have you ever moved out of your parents house?
Then you get a better job
You do that by not being a dumb nigger
I don't even have a college degree and I made 30k in 2019 so far
"But but muh liberal arts degree"
>make sure you move out so you can pay me to live with strangers
I wonder who is behind this post
wat
>Comparing the minimum wage to the highly skewed mean average
Why not mode rent and average wage?
>Skill
>I have access to higher paying jobs than you because of my "skills".
baka you idiots still believe this?
And democrats want them replaced with brown uneducated foreign nationals.
Dem debates
>decriminalize border crossings
>free healthcare for illegals
>fucking beto campaigning in Mexico for the love of god
Seriously if your girlfriend works you’re a fucking faggot. Your stupid runaround arguing for “make more money bro” is invalid considering most of you blockheads live with your mommy.
People on minimum wage are supposed to die out, otherwise what on Earth would hold a shmuck who doesn't know any profession except for what is worth minimum?
I make 12.50 working as an EMT. I live okay.
Every millennial and zoomer is working g 3 part time fast food jobs to NOT afford an apartment
Yup we're completely fucked
Enjoy the Great Depression
>cherry pick high rent price
>cherry pick lowest minimum wage
>trying so hard to prove ur point
checked
I work two jobs with one paying double the minimum wage and the other paying way more. Don't be a lazy son of a bitch
> $1234 per month
Look mom, I pulled numbers out of my ass!
Also, this.
>tfw rich wives are occupying menial jobs you could've had but they have it because they are bored.
I love our modern society, especially being job and trying to get by and having the older generation just shit on me and not get why nobody my age have an easy time getting jobs.
Who gives a fuck? Minimum wage is not designed to support a family or you living in the "city" with all your hipster faggot friends. Fuck off.
>derrrr JUST LEARN A SKILLL!!!! CAPITALISM ISNT BROKEN. YOU ARE!!!
Get a better job if you want to afford a house. Home ownership is not a right it is a privilege.
And don't tell me that people would get a better job if they could. Guaranteed 99% of minimum wage cucks acted like retards at school and that is why they are opportunity poor.
How do you get stuck on minimum wage? Even the worst retail jobs pay almost double that.
The average us rent is no 1234/month and you are fucking retarded if you are paying over 800 a month in rent ever.
>How are people on minimum wage supposed to survive without the government's help?
Don't live in expensive cities
>How are billionaires supposed to survive without the government's help?
>Average rent
> rent a single person working minimum wage would want to pay
Don't forget to challenge the idea that you can only pay a quarter of your income to rent max.
min. wagers don't get mean wage rentals dipshit
What you don't have friends?
I'm rooming with this dude I literally known for 15 years now
Before that I lived with one of my exes
Before that I lived on my own paying 700 month in CHICAGO
ITT: FUCKING. CHILDREN
When does school start again? I'm literally looking to buy a house right now and I don't have ANY college credits
Fuckin dumbass kids. Tell your mom to stop squirting all over the back seat of my car
Listen fool nigger:
1) Wages do not reflect how much money you need. They reflect how much money you can help your employer earn. If wages are paid based on what people need, then we are rewarding need, instead of rewarding hard work and ability.
2) Were you passed out in the bathroom with a needle in your arm, that day in 6th grade when they explained what 'average' means? It doesn't mean everyone has to pay that. Minimum wage is a below-average wage, so if I earn that, I would expect to live in a below average place.
3) People who earn shit money have all kinds of options. Stay home with the folks if you're young, get housemates, move to a less popular area.The best option though, is to work hard, get some training at a valuable skill, move up the ladder over time.
(((Average)))
Vs "Average"
>Not every job needs to support a single person
that's an extremely shitty thing to say to a full time worker
come to jew york and tell us we're entitled paying 1200$ on a fucking hole in the wall next to single mothers and mexicans
what this says is that for a society with average requirements there must be people who have to live in below average conditions and the market for below average conditions must continue to exist
thats kinda fucked up
Ackshually, I live with my wife, who doesn't work, because I have a good job. Because I didn't jerk around at school and decided to make more money.
Get a better job you dumb faggot
You arent.
Youre supposed to die goyim.
imagine self cucking yourself this hard
yes if you make people more money they will want you around and will pay for it, retard
You are ignoring the much bigger problem, which is the root of the rent and housing price problem.
POOR PEOPLE ARE BEING PAID TO HAVE CHILDREN WHILE OLD PEOPLE ARE BEING PAID TO DO NOTHING!
That makes for 2 expensive dependent classes of people and requires high prices for everything housing related. Those poor and or old people have the right to vote too so don't expect that situation to change without a bloody fight. Enjoy your slavery to the dependents. They "earned" it. You pay for it.
If you can't survive in one of the most prosperous countries on Earth that has ever existed maybe you should just die
>using average instead of median when there are crazy rents in highrises in NYC and LA
>arbitrary budget requirement
hmmmm
if you cant afford 1200 a month then no one is making you live in a 1200 a month apartment. If you are too stupid to move somewhere where you can better afford to live then you deserve to throw all your income away on rent. Also, you have to be a real fucking retard to only be able to get $7.25 an hour. Entry level manual labor starts at $10 with $9 being the absolute minimum Ive ever heard of someone getting paid for manual labor. And, if you are over 20 and can not find a job that pays at least $15 an hour you are either not looking hard enough or worthless and in either case deserve no sympathy whatsoever.
you;re suppose to live in a box in the street in the richest country humanity has ever seen
Or you can vote Bernie for change
Minimum wage is total shit. It keeps my poor area's unemployment high and it sucks. Might as well call minimum wage the "Fuck poor people in rural areas act"
I got a 2b2b for 850 when I was living in Arkansas.
Word. If you dont bother to get a skill by the time youre fuxking 30 you may as well accept a shit lifestyle and pinch your pennies for luxuries or kill yourself
A fucking basic heavy equipment operator course is only 3 grand canadian and 12(5 day) weeks I'm pretty sure
What's the minimum rent?
>I'm rooming with this dude I literally known for 15 years now
Good for you, now you can get conned with a friend.
>How are people on minimum wage supposed to survive without the government's help?
Develop a marketable skill set either through college or through an apprenticeship.
>b-b-but how am I supposed to do that when I'm 18?
Stay with your parents working a shitty minimum wage job until you can get into trade school, finish college, or go join the military for 4 years in a job that will give you a marketable skill set while taking college courses for free while you're in.
Poverty is a choice unless you're literally too stupid to be useful to anyone.
>be poor lefty
>vote for higher wages even though you only make minimum wage
>vote for more unskilled, uneducated immigrants in the country, which floods the supply of cheap labor and reduces its relative value
>compete with new immigrants for your pre-existing job while rent keeps going up every year
>votes for city politicians who actively campaign on “preserving” property values by minimizing the amount of new housing built because they have a (D) by their name
Hmm, I wonder why people tend to migrate out of the most multi-cultural, far left states in the country...?
>FHA loans
The government literally backs loans aimed at helping first time home owners. You often need very little, if any, money for a down payment and a fairly good DTI. It’s not fucking hard. At all.
This
I was making 10 dollars an hour putting food on shelves at trader Joe's OVER TEN YEARS AGO
That was my very first job. 10 an hour. Some long haired pothead smoking weed in an an alley behind his job putting cans of beans on a shelf
Come. The fuck. On
I won't link it because fuck those guys and free ad revenue, but...
Some stripper on Jezebel is unironically whinging that a move to a cash free society is a bad idea because it is harming strippers. The reason for this is that legit clubs take too high a portion of their wage to pay for taxes and shit, so they are forced to work at dodgy clubs that don't pay tax and don't police their clientele as strictly.
What a fucking joke. "I don't want to pay taxes and I can't work cash in hand anymore so I am forced to work in a dodgy situation -- I have no other option".
How about pay your taxes and shut the fuck up, you bint.
>Discuss
Well, the average household salary in the US is about 60K per year.. or about 30 bucks per house... what were you complaining about again?
Don't live in a big city, and live with someone else.
Avg rent in OK is $722.
Live with someone else and that's $376 per person per month.
At $7.25 an hour for 40 hours a week, that's about 1.33 weeks out of a month going towards rent.
Problem solved.
Live with other people.
>The absolute lowest you're allowed to legally pay someone of any age or skill level to do literally any form of labor, no matter how trivial, should afford them 4 times the average US rent
This is what leftists actually believe.
Did he died?
the minimum wage is 0
I work a minimum wage tipped job
I earn 20/hr
Nobody actually earns minimum wage unless they're teenage dependents
kys
>How are people on minimum wage supposed to survive without the government's help?
Comparing the average to the minimum
Where the fuck is it 300?
I have three roommates in the middle of a big city and my rent is 490
The fact of it is that among white populations of western nations, women are at least as likely to be employed as men. This has problems of its own, but it also means that about 95 percent of couples will have both working.
>hurr just dont work minimum wage jobs
Well who's going to work at your supermarkets or retail stores?
We need minimum wage workers for our society to function
Just the fact that this person doesn't even know the difference between gross and net income renders anything they have to say worthless.
BETTER QUESTION
WHY ARE YOU REPLYING TO A SLIDE THREAD RATHER THAN SAGE IN OPTIONS AND REPORTING IT?
Do your part, soldier.
Get rid of the US flag slide faggots plaguing the chans the last three weeks.
>OH OH I HAVE AN IDEA!Let’s throw more money at illegals!
By supporting the "far-right," the only solution there ever will be to your problems.
Mean is always the wrong data anyway, median is similar but actually useful.
my mortgage is $288 for 3bed house on 80 acres. Renting is for retards.
>median millennial wage is $20,000
>millennials are as old as almost 40
>teenage dependents
>cost of living is the same everywhere
How fucking retarded are you
>Just move to OK
>Okay user we’re going to need first and last months rent, proof you’ve turned on water and electric (200$ deposit for each btw), and just before we sign we’ll need to do a credit check to ensure you make at least three times rent every month. Oh you don’t make that much? Sorryyyyy
the non-slide threads are boring right now, might as well have interesting conversation instead.
You're just diverting the question though. How is a person with this job supposed to survive?
So average rent allows for one to live comfortably on average income. Who knew.
If you cant afford to live in cities with rent this high then you should move. its only like CA, NY, and then really nice areas. if you must stay nearby id stake my life you can find a $500 a month 1br.
In my city i rent a really nice 2br house with driveway and garage and basement for $725 a month.
this is 10 minutes out of a major metro area with lots of jobs and businesses
i dont feel bad for idiots splitting $4,000 a month rent to live near LA, fucking move if you cant afford it the city isnt doing you any favors
also 2 incomes..... get married losers
His rent is 600 a month dipshit, he splits the bill.
>compare the average to minimum
Words have meaning.
Say you're making $1500 a month
options to survive and get ahead
>try renting a room from a family member for x-amount of months. explain your plan
>search for a room to roommate with others for $400 a month
Food
>eat once a day for $10 or water fast
Or if your alpha like me... Become a truck driver, go drive and live in your truck for 2 years, stockpile cash and get ahead.
Theres options, people just dont wanna feel left out or sacrifice.
>stop having kids goy
Suuuuure Shlomo, what could go wrong?..
Most roommates are complete niggers
You need to really have a good relationship to rent a place with someone.
t. Last roommate cucked out and ghosted me and I had to move out because I couldn't afford rent by myself