Russians and Israels Satellite

For all those that believe that satellites aren't weaponized, that DEW capabilities aren't here and now.

I leave you with this.

lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/directed-energy/laser-weapon-systems.html

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newatlas.com/laser-cooling-semiconductor/26222/
coldlasers.org/therapy/What-is-cold-laser-therapy/
universetoday.com/77070/how-cold-is-space/
everydayconcerned.net
targetedjustice.com
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amchitka#Milrow_and_Cannikin_tests
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

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bully the debiru >:3

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I don’t care

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I don't care that you don't care I care about the people that do care user..

you're kinda cute user

Russia’s economy is smaller than fucking Italy’s.

You have to be retarded to think they have funding for this kind of shit.

Thanks user!

You obviously don't pay attention to the fact Russia cares very much about it's military capabilities to stay on par with the United States. Russia is more capable of a 1v1 war with us than China is.

so okay user

*hugs

Additionally, how are you going to discredit the fact that Lockheed Martin, which is Public not private sector, sells DEW capabilities. Russia doesn't need funding for R&D. The technology is there..

Powerful lasers get really, really hot, and cooling things down in the vacuum of space is extremely difficult. How did they solve that problem?

hey actually that's a very good point user, I'll check around on that.

if they got super secret lasor stuffs you never know, they may have found a way for lasers to adapt to a spacial environment. Maybe an artificial environment within the satellite?

>Maybe an artificial environment within the satellite?

A heatsink could potentially absorb the heat from a couple of shots, but ultimately at some point the heatsink needs to be cooled down too.

here you go user.

A quick google search found this.

newatlas.com/laser-cooling-semiconductor/26222/

This is my tin foil hat time, maybe they were able to recreate this in the vacuum of space by by isolating what powers the laser with an artificial environment? It isn't too outlandish I don't think.

a heat sink within an artificial environment maybe? I feel like that would be the best way to optimize a heat sink above orbit.

That's cooling down the surface of a chip, but it doesn't explain exactly what waste heat is also being produced. Much like a refridgerator, it's probably transferring the heat elsewhere rather than removing it altogther.

The artificial environment would get hot too. Ultimately, the heat energy has to go somewhere.

Electric cars when braking, recuperate that energy and re-energize the battery of the vehicle?

Is it possible the energy is reused? I know aircraft when completely topped off with fuel, cannot land unless they are empty enough to not damage the landing strip, or the aircraft itself. Is it possible that the energy produced/heat produced is continuously exerted, (let us say that this laser fires in single shots) until all energy is depleted, and at the same time, fully utilized?

even if not, it is still good sci-fi!

hollywood don't steal my ideas!... haha.

>Electric cars when braking, recuperate that energy and re-energize the battery of the vehicle?

That's different, regenerative braking essentially uses the electric motor as a dynamo to provide a bit of additional electrical charge while slowing the vehicle down.

>Is it possible the energy is reused?

It's simply waste heat, there's not a lot that can be done with that, as far as I know.

Dumb satanichia

Waste heat could theoretically be reused, just not in any way that would be practical on a satellite.

kys faggot

Yeah you're right, it could be used to heat water or something elsewhere.

>the technology for lasers exist (everyone already knew this)
>therefore Israel and Russia have laser satellites case closed
300 iq

so do the russian and israeli satalites look in our windows at night to document what kind of porn we fap to?

hey what about cooled liquid nitrogen as a heat sink for the lasers major components?

user we are just having a friendly discussion. you're welcome to join and give your opinion. :)

they don't have to user, our own satellites do that. hell, it's autodocumented by use of phones and computers user. they don't need satellites for that.

That could work until it ran out of liquid nitrogen. I would also assume that there are a lot of serious engineering problems in integrating a liquid nitrogen cooling system into an orbital laser satellite.

to add on to this, you know how objects falling to earth at terminal velocity burn in the atmosphere? what if the laser itself doesn't actually begin to "heat" until it passes through the atmosphere and as it passes? what if no heat is generated at the origin initially?

The laser assembly will get hot as soon as it's powered, it doesn't matter what it's pointing at.

imagine the cowardly, feminine, brutish US military ZOG pigs with their hands on orbital laser systems...

the satellite is in space. how cold is the space around the satellite's orbit? it's been awhile since my engineering days.

coldlasers.org/therapy/What-is-cold-laser-therapy/

this isn't much to look at but, it gives you an idea of the possibilities.
we already have them on naval ships, mobile ground forces, and military aircraft user. :)

Doesn't matter how cold it is, it's in a vacuum.

here is a pretty cool video user!
universetoday.com/77070/how-cold-is-space/

it looks like with the sun shining on Earth, we're still sitting below -230 or so.

Take your meds, goyim:

everydayconcerned.net

we're able to simulate gravity on the ISS.

I still think the artificial environment is a huge possibly.

user I posted a link that is fully credible. I think the possibilities are fun to think about. It's all in good fun. This isn't a LARP.

The artificial environment would also be in a vacuum. Really the only solution to this problem is to find a way to radiate the heat away from the satellite, which would make the whole thing pretty huge, or take a different approach like the Rods From God idea.

This fucking thread.

None of you schizo faggots know how thermodynamics works.

Heat needs something to transfer to such as air or water. Heat can radiate away in vacuum but it takes a fucking long time.

A space lazer will be disabled after it gets too hot from the first shots and unless its venting hot air/water its fucked.

Maybe they could've used a mirror?

>DEW
Why bother? We have old shit up there we can just drift into the newer shit. It's not hard to do, we, and they, do it all the time. Sat crashes are common. Just send the command and spam the CW from a couple different vsats.

This problem has been a significant part of the thread.

Anime website, tourist

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This shit is many orders cheaper than you think it is if you remove all the money get lost to absurd levels of corruption in military industrial complex.
Although conventional laser beams on satellites that can cause any harm to planet surface is a completely impossible shit right now, and likely will never be possible due to how atmosphere fucks with light. And why would you even do it if you just can fill the satellite with heat-resistant slugs that you can drop down below with insane kinetic energy in the moment of landing.

Read the link if you want. Maybe this one too:

targetedjustice.com

>microwave ovens melt due to heat
how tf do you even draw breath user?

Tell me more about your 3G theory faggot.

Haha yeah essentially. Which is why I won't reply to him. It's just a friendly discussion..

Anyways.

The point of DEW isn't to destroy other satellites, it is used as a military asset. A focused heat-ray -> earth scenario.

a scorched earth policy is better than something that could be a seismic trigger.

kinetic rods are effective but a dozen rods hit and it's going to cause serious issues within the earth's crust and be a catalyst for earthquakes, tsunamis, etc.

DON'T SATANIA! DIRTY SPIC!

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>targetedjustice.com
I appreciate it user! I am reading it now.

be apart of the discussion or fuck off.

>A focused heat-ray -> earth scenario.
muh solar panel energy source is going to burn the Earth to death.

I have an idea, what if these satellites are KNOWN to be one hitters?

the cost of producing something that would be that effective is worth the cost, in my mind. If one laser is able to do significant damage, who cares about re-use or weapons recovery? at the same time, the technology is destroy and can't be reproduced.

>be apart of the discussion or fuck off.
I'm part of the company creating the largest sat network in history.
Not going to make a profit by killing everyone.
Musk it the only competitor until Bezos jumps in.

hey that's a good point, these satellites could be solar powered? they could be allowed to build up energy from the sun over time to be used, rather than a man made catalyst, we used nature.

oh okay I get it you came here to shove your dick in everyone's face.

very nice user, very nice. we see it.

now then.....

>derailing the discussion
Fuck off shill

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Good to know!

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>I have an idea, what if these satellites are KNOWN to be one hitters?
I already told you we've all used old satellites for that.
>ey that's a good point, these satellites could be solar powered?
They're all solar powered. Keeping them in orbit for 10-15 years requires propellent to keep them in orbit. Wh know when they are near EOL because they are running out of fuel. That's when we crash them.
>derailing
Pottery.

Also this alleged laser has to be fucking big. Bigger than ISS likely, it'll need to house whatever cooling system it has and shit No way you'll ever get this shit to orbit unnoticed.
And who the fuck would bother with ebin lazors when there's something much simpler.
>Aerodynamic projectile of dense material, tungsten or depleted uranium, in ceramic shell to protect it from heat
>Maybe with some simple guidance system to correct fall
>You bring it to orbit and then drop it aiming at whoever you want to fuck up
When it hits, kinetic energy will be incomparably greater than any beam can deliver. And it's very simple and reliable, you can build that with tech known to all humanity for quite long ago. I won't be surprised if something like this already drifts above our heads.

that is actually extremely impressive!!!

I myself haven't looked into the website much, just the fact they are marketing technology like this is enough for me to speculate and have a little fun with it.

Waste heat is recycled by TEGs

might be why destruction wasn't more widespread. Thing might take a few days to cool down.

another good point, they are all solar powered! is it possible that maybe they found a way to direct the solar energy into a beam weapon? or at least, solar energy takes part in the process of the creation of the beam? I think so.

I already addressed this point by saying that the effects of kinetic energy weapons wouldn't be worth the risk of causing a seismic event. which is why DEW weapons would be the preferred choice of weapon.

Nothing we create can compete with the Sun.

exactly! I was thinking the same thing! rather than it just "cooling down" immediately after firing. It has a "cooldown period" of days... hell maybe weeks?

>but a dozen rods hit and it's going to cause serious issues within the earth's crust
I don't remember school course of physics good enough to calculate energy of impact exactly taking atmospheric resistance into account, but I seriously doubt few tons projectile can possibly reach something of that scale. Humanity detonated multiple fusion bombs of up to 50Mt power and it did nothing serious, what harm can impact like this cause to crust?

It's faggot schizo larp thread.

honestly there's no telling and I'm not educated in that field whatsoever. It's just speculation. It is just my first thought when thinking of a kinetic weapon smashing down on the earth's crust, rather than exploding upon it. It would be a very powerful downward force, a major shock wave directed immediately downward, rather than in a radius such as a bomb.

why are you still here then? just leave.

Children observe, this is a shill.

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well yeah of course. I enjoy discussing this with others. you're just shitting all over everything? lol.

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Americans once blew up 5Mt bomb underground, it caused local quake but in the end it was nothing serious except usual contamination of soil.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amchitka#Milrow_and_Cannikin_tests
I don't think biggest projectile humans can tow into orbit can cause even 1Mt equivalent explosion on impact. And even if they're afraid of using too much power, there's very simple solution called scaling it down.

Stop responding to him.

this is a message board my duuuude, for discussions and or shit posting.

get that huuuuuuuge dick out of your ass and keep on suckin' daddy elons, just leave if you're so "triggered" .

valid.

thanks for the link!

yeah, I guess you are right.

is it still valid to say that I believe it would be more of a scorched earth policy? rather than impaling targeted areas and potentially causing damage to highways/subway systems/contaminating water sources/destroyed municipal plumbing, to use a DEW would be much more effective.

the local infrastructure would still be in tact, and any damage would be minor at best. I mean it is scorched earth but the definition of that is "A scorched-earth policy is a military strategy that aims to destroy anything that might be useful to the enemy while it is advancing through or withdrawing from a location", so I guess it wouldn't be.

If a DEW was used in mass exterminations, it would cause intense fires. Displacement of populations and the inability to stay in one place would be very effective for another countries military. Especially in regards to military ground forces.

Whoever wields weapons like these can't be fucked with lives of plebs whom they accidentally mow down whatsoever, and even if something undesirable happens they still have their media to mold opinion how they want. Question is purely technical. For technologies known to public, firing laser that can seriously damage something on surface from satellite is impossible.
>Laser mounted on warship is much heavier than anything they send into space, and best it can do is detonate payload of projectile from couple dozens km.
>One fired from space has to go through much more of air that refracts and disperses light. Any overcast renders it completely obsolete
>Laser needs a pretty serious power source and sophisticated cooling system. It has to be very large, and they will need to send it by parts and assembly it on the orbit. THere's no way to hide operation of this scale.
>Cooling system itself is a problem. As people above noticed, you have to vent cooling agent and get new one from somewhere. Every shot is new logistic fuckery.
Even if we assume that stuff from black projects has double efficiency on any characteristic mentioned here, making beam that can cripple infrastructure from space while being compact enough to be disguised as something else to avoid drawing attention is very far from possible. Thing like this has to use some next level shit unknown to humanity even at the level of concepts. If someone had something on that level they would have conquered the world in much simpler ways already instead of fucking with meme beams.

retard burger

blocked for me, archive please

Do you realise how much fucking gold Russia has you absolute pleb?

larp before the shoah v3.jpg

Rods from God but it also has a nuke that detaches before impact and emps the fuck out of shit.

last time I checked, laser weapons were less than 50% energy efficient, which means that whatever energy you get on target, you'll have to deal with at the laser itself.

This means heat sinks connected to truly massive radiator panels.

Unless it's a neutral particle beam that is somehow more efficient?