Is Airbus objectively better than Boeing?

Yep go with airbus,can confirm high quality standards. They dont use cheap workers for programing.

It would be nice, but I live in a smallish town. Going to Europe later this month and I'm on a 737 from my town to NYC then a big Airbus to Europe. 330 I think.

I'll fly Boeing but no new models. No 737-MAX and no 777-X (not in production yet). Too much work on new models being farmed out to street-shitters. Boeing killed the golden goose on the altar of die-virsity.

Market trends would suggest so

They build the Airbus in Germany, don't they? That's some high quality and very educated workers, right?

I looked up the 737 on wikipedia, it was developed in the 1960's, right? That's 60 years ago!

Boeing and Airbus are a cartel . They colluded and took Bombardiars C series technology from Canada

In France

And france.

And yes. Airbus didn't bust their union employees and replace them cheap non union labor.

french are sandniggers and boeing is niggerniggers, and sandniggers build better shit than niggerniggers

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Yes and france. But quality and testing are on very high standarts. Every screw and every rivet is tested and certified.

they sure are

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Do you guys think I should change my flight to an Airbus? I kind of feel like it would have super high quality standards and safety. Boeing just gives me a bad feel.

No, what you're flying on will probably be a 737-800..the 8th generation 737, first produced in 1997...besides, cargo airlines fly birds about 50 years old

He said the 737-MAX you retard
Also seconding the "don't fly anything new" t.airplane mechanic

They aren't building airplanes, they're collecting welfare user.
I don't know, would you feel safe driving around in a 1997 Chevy Cavalier?

If you can manage it i would do it. Just to try to get into a newer model. Never flew with one but they look super comfy . If you can get into a a380 you even have a bar in the aircraft.

fly on Chad-tier JetBlue
>fleet of Airbuses
>legroom on flights
>white airhostesses
>free flights with no-cost loyalty program
>avoid the worse airports in cities with multiple airports

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The 787 is comfy tough.

You realize the a330 you're riding to Europe was likely built in the 80s, right??

Same as Boeing, Bombardier, Embraer, even small general aviation planes.

Boeing probably hires unqualified Indians to write code for their instruments at a fraction of the cost, while Airbus probably gets 100% white people/Chinese to do it. That's the difference.

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That sounds incredibly cool. I'm supposed to fly on a 737 to New Jersey and then transfer to Lufthansa to fly on a big Airbus to Frankfurt in a few weeks. I'm thinking about just buying a cheap ticket on Spirit to get on a new Airbus instead of a crashy United Boeing.
I'd go on Jetblue but I can't connect with my plans through them.
I know about 2 737 crashes in the last year but I don't think I've ever heard about an Airbus 330 crash, have you?

Boeing are welfare planes

I'll fly on 787 because it's proven and not new. Everything new gets a pass.

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I always support American companies first, so long as they support their workers.
But this 9 dollar an hour poo in the loo software shit is a major fuck up.
They better get their shit together,and no company that adopts a neoliberal philosophy has their shit together.
Not the consumers of those products, nor investors in the long term.

I've toured the c series and crj plants several times, and I can assure you bombardier tanked themselves here.

the sale to mitsubishi was inevitable.

Most are new.

Never worked in the us,would be cool though.

Die memeflag shill

Both are generally the same quality.

First gen A330 launched in 1994 or 1995
Last A330 crash was Air France in 2009

>Implying I'll be willing to get on some little puddle jumper

That's because it was some incompetent frog who didn't know how to fly an airplane though.

>I know about 2 737 crashes in the last year but I don't think I've ever heard about an Airbus 330 crash, have you?
There's a new app called google.com. It's free you should check it out.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Airbus_A330

The Airbus A330 had been involved in 13 major aviation occurrences,[1] including six confirmed hull-loss accidents[2] and two hijackings, for a total of 338 fatalities.[3]

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>1 hull loss in 35 years
>2 hull losses in the last 6 months
Sorry, hijacking doesn't count user. I'm going to feel a lot better on the Airbus.

Wow I never saw that written before. You must have a high IQ at least in the 80's?

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Yeah retarded baguettes didn't know how the flight computer works...

>>hijackings

Ye you should know best that there is nothing much you can do.

The old phrase used to be “if it ain’t a Boeing I ain’t going” but times have changed I guess. Only drag to an a380 is how long boarding takes, waiting for bags etc more people just takes longer, it’s great otherwise

Boeing now offshores its software to India. And its manufacturing workers are mostly black/hispanics.

So if you want inferior races making your airplanes, then yes, go Boeing!

just use this honestly
airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm
most everything is safe as fuck as long as you're not on a flight from the pacific islands or africa where the pilots are only required to have something like 20% the hours that first nations require

Yeah, it works great until it doesn't and then you need someone flying the airplane that knows how to fly. Apparently that isn't important at Air France.

Projection much? Airplanes are based.

One quarter of EU Blue Card holders in Germany from India

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>Sorry, hijacking doesn't count user. I'm going to feel a lot better on the Airbus.
I'll type this very slow user. You wrote:

>I know about 2 737 crashes in the last year but I don't think I've ever heard about an Airbus 330 crash, have you?

Here is the answer, sans hijackings so as not to confuse you.

The Airbus A330 has been involved in 13 major aviation occurrences,[1] including six confirmed hull-loss accidents[2]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Airbus_A330

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I think the A380 has the safest safety record, no? 11 years in service and 0 hull loses. Only 2 major accidents with no casualties and both engine related. Shame it's no longer popular with airlines

He is a faggot,not you.

I think that Singapore crashed one, but it was pirot error.
Sorry, I didn't dig deep enough. I still think Airbus is safer.

From the European ones, i think Air France is the worst airline

No, A380 is done, mate, they are cancelling orders left and right. It is the begining of the end for Airbus.

The 747 Jumbo is the max. Fit any more passengers and luggage in a plane and it becomes too expensive to be economical.

I agree. I had a very bad experience on an Air France plane once. KLM is surprisingly better despite being the same company.

I've worked as an A&P mechanic for 10 years and I can say that I'd rather fly Boeing than Airbus everytime. They're just better aircraft. When they come into the airport I just have to do a systems check, top off oil in the powerplants, and check hydraulics. With an Airbus it's a fucking litany of problems. Busted fuel lines, strut fractures, engine issues (although that's a whole different story as planes don't come with engines, they're a separate purchase decision by an airline) and hydraulic/electrical issues.

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Best Pilots i wittnessed are in norway, they land their machines on ice and snow that was insane. Worst airport was on the philipines, they let us through the security gate on the airfield because the guard couldnt read

Are you a retard?

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Airbus_A330

2 hull loss with passenger loss, both pilot error.

Maybe your airline just has shitty old airbuses. Do you work for United or American?

A380 isnt the cashcow A320 is

Airbus = fly by wire (all computer/electronics, besides a310/300)

Boeing = fly by cable and pulley (besides 777/787)

So if your electronics crash in an Airbus you're fucked. Irregardless flying is the most safe means of travel by far so stop being a faggot.

fearofflying.com/resources/safest-airliners-and-airline-safety.shtml

I don't know of any full blown crashes. Most serious accident is the Quantas one from 2010 or 2011 with the uncontained engine failure, but even that wasn't a hull loss. They repaired it and is still in service.

You've more chance of getting killed on the way to the Airport.
FYI it's not the older planes that are going down.

boening has betrayed this country with their blatantly unpatriotic business practices.
the only way they will ever be punished is if the consumers punish them.
as much as i hate referring anyone to foreigners, you have done nothing wrong

It's actually the opposite. More pax/cargo is much cheaper for an airline. The issue is filling an A380. Emirates owns a ton and it only mildly works for them because of their geographic location. The hub system has been dying since the late 70s in aviation and more and more places are run up through shorter breakaway routes. The A380 was a plane about 30 years past its prime time. Best for long haul is the 777, A340 (which they don't make anymore) or the 747 which can max out cargo and passenger

Why did the creator specify the variants of the A330 and A340 but none of the others?

>I have a trip planned for this month and I'm leaning towards changing my flight to make sure I'm on an Airbus.

That's overkill, IMO. But yeah, Boeing fucked up big time.

just because something is old doesn't mean it is inferior.
the colt m1911 is the standard issue military sidearm in NATO countries because of it's reliability.
it's called the 1911 because that's when it was designed

That's cuz KLM is ran by stonned dutchies kek

Neither, I work for BA now. I got my start as a 3rd party maintenance jockey which is sort of the norm. I've worked on contracts with AA, UA, EK, BA, and VS. Far and away those issues were the same across the board

The behavior of boing after the first failure reports was just wrong. They should have listen to the pilots and the people in first place then everything would have worked out well

The B52 is older and still great at what it does and personally the DC10 is a plane I miss

The 1911 is a very shit gun thou

Suits. It's always fucking suits. Nobody who graduated from business school should be allowed to do anything more responsible than be the accountant.

Memes are real

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Nothing is worse than getting a class 2 mx ECAM right after pushback.

>top off oil
so you're saying that Boeing's are leaky as fuck, good to know
t. airbus marketing

Agreed

>1911 is a shit gun
Ok noguns

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Aye my mates dad was flying qantas’ other a380 at the time it happened and had to divert and land too as they were new and worried it might affect both, ended up was someone drilled a hole by hand or something trying to save time and fucked it up, what a fuck up. Also fwiw Qantas once had an accident in a 747 I think a while back, the plane overshot or slid off the runway and it was a write off but they paid a fucktonne to repair it so they could say they haven’t ever had a lost plane

Im not actually dutch, just in NL. But yea they are cucked af here. Pretty much only military and police are allowed to have guns. Doesn't change that the 1911 is a shit gun thou. Literally any modern handgun is infinitely better

Everything they did with the MAX 8 was wrong. They rushed out a plane that had larger engines pushed forward, which fucked the CG, then hired poo-in-loos to try to compensate for the change.
They should have just made a new aircraft but they wanted to be able to compete with the A320 Neo and making a new one would have taken too long

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Thats a open secret. As long as you have enough oil on board no one cares. P3 Orion was leaky as fuck.

That's assuming the pilot even acknowledges an ECAM. I work at MCO. Google up the fucking aircraft we had come back after departure after almost 3 hours into a trip across the Atlantic. The NTSB is doing an investigation on it now

The 800 was the most that plane should have been. The 900, 900ER and the MAX were horrible mistakes.

Fuckin ausies... The lengths they will go to keep the "safest airline in history" award

I know you're being retarded on purpose but heres you're (you)

If it's boeing i ain't going. No pajeets, well take a seat.

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kek, you're supposed to check the status messages before you leave. It even blinks on and off [STS] so you don't fuck it up.

> Literally any modern handgun is infinitely better than the M1911.
Have you ever heard of the Kel Tec?

Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers

Increasingly, the iconic American planemaker and its subcontractors have relied on temporary workers making as little as $9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace -- notably India.

Rabin, a former software engineer, recalled one manager saying at an all-hands meeting that Boeing didn't need senior engineers because its products were mature. "I was shocked that in a room full of a couple hundred mostly senior engineers we were being told that we weren't needed, " said Rabin, who was laid off in 2015.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers

BOEING HAS QUALITY PROBLEMS
That's what happens when you stop hiring white people and go to the lowest common H1B visa denominator,
THERE. I had the guts to say it like it is, and did it in a single short sentence.

As it turns out, the recent Ethiopian air Boeing 737-MAX crashed due to structural failure, and not a nose down causing pitot tube. I called B.S. on the pitot tube the first time around, and was reluctant to the second time around because it got blamed again and I thought "Maybe". However, the real problem is that the plane is a PIECE OF CRAP that fell apart in flight. Why? Just LOOK HERE.

jobs.boeing.com/diversity

82.221.129.208/.wg5.html

I won't be flying diversity airlines.