Why won't Russians admit that they were a more powerful nation under communism?

They will tho

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Russian communism would be repulsive to Western commies. Don't even act like you are a fan of nationalism, strong borders, strong immigration control, strong military, nuclear weapons, military expansionism, etc. Ironically without the actual Soviet party shitting on you everyday in everyway, it sounds like paradise to me.

ultra gigrare

>"human rights"
Meme

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They only appeared powerful because all of their tax money went to military spending while the rest were broke as shit. Do any commies actually study Russian history or are you merely larping for the heck of it?

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Not to mention the effort that the Western powers went through to invent Communism as a threat in order to feed the military/industrial complex.

>the powers invented communism

What? Please stop. I don't agree with you either.

>nationalism
Soviet Union prevented urbanization in Central Asia for a century and then shipped half-Mongol half-Arab all-retard shitskin farmers to RSFSR. They were less than 5% of the population of the union in 1920s and more than 25% by the time that shitshow collapsed. The Soviet government planned Siberia to become majority Asian by the current year. We didn't need spic immigration because Mexico was a part of the country. They also prohibited psychometric research and proclaimed IQ racist and classist when it turned out that shitskins and 4th generation village idiots consistently score lower than middle class Russians. It was the same shit as modern leftsists, just with less soiboi shit. I guess even educated liberals had higher T back then.

the soviet union, at the time of its collapse, had the second biggest gdp on the planet. they weren't just feigning power you retard. I think they went in a completely wrong direction after Stalin but just lmao at denying that the soviet union was the second most powerful state in human history.

>more powerful
If by that you mean being able to do much more unethical shit for the government, then yeah.

It doesn't matter if your people hate it there. China has a huge GDP too and no one is rushing to China because it sucks. Russia botched tons of innovation and a lot of their inventors left for other countries. I wouldn't give communism any credit unless you can point to direct improvements that were a result of having a state managed economy.

>tfw stalin has a higher approval rating than trump

No homeless, no unemployed, much more efficient economic spending, very powerful military, invented the most popular rifle in history, invented the best selling video game in history, responsible for brands like Lada still around today, invented space travel, landed on Venus, invented mobile phones, invented satellite television, etc.

I think most do though, even putin mentions how the fall of the soviet union was the "Greatest Geopolitical disaster in human history" Not only this but many russian (like 30% and mostly boomers) wish they could go back to such a system.

Not saying communism is great but for those in slavic nations, they were better under communism then what ever Oligarc hell they are under now.

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Human rights are the liberals-pushed death of humanity
Kill yourself faggot

Literally a Kurt Cobain quote.

>flag of Niue
>Niue has a population of 1624
Does everyone in your country literally know everyone?

>propaganda picture reflects reality in any way
My grandma told me, that irl Russian soldiers wore anything that reassembled clothes and were running around always hungry. Quite a pitiful bunch.
You commies are as retarded as always

holy shit dude
do you even have internet in that place?

>no homeless
Yes, state mandated houses keeps people off the streets but they packed them in like sardines and the living conditions were shit
>no unemployed
Same with housing. Shit jobs and shit pay.
>more efficient econ spending
On what?
>very powerful military
I sure fucking hope so with how much funding they fucking received
>most popular rifle in history
Reaching. Massed produced doesn't mean it is the best gun or anything. Although it is a beast but most aren't even produced in Russia.
>best selling video game
Tetris is cool and all but what else have they made?
>space travel
Military
>mobile phones
Credited to Motorola (Chicago)
>satellite tv
They are only credited with the invention of the first national network only televison satellites. They did not invent the tech or were they the dominate country for tv tech. The U.S. was.

Anymore points?

>Yes, state mandated houses keeps people off the streets but they packed them in like sardines and the living conditions were shit
they had commieblocks you idiot. apartments. you're thinking of the really old times

>Same with housing. Shit jobs and shit pay.

Living provided for. More than you can say for any homeless man in the good ol' us of a.

>On what?
On everything. Central planning is more efficient than free market bullshit.

>Credited to Motorola (Chicago)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code-division_multiple_access
>The technology of code-division multiple access channels has long been known. In the Soviet Union (USSR), the first work devoted to this subject was published in 1935 by Dmitry Ageev.
also
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Kupriyanovich

>They did not invent the tech or were they the dominate country for tv tech.
If they didn't invent it how were they the first to do it?

Faggot. There is no such thing as a human right. You only have the rights you are willing to die for.

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Reminder it was the Jews that took over Russia and murdered Nicolas II and his family. Reminder that it was these same Jews whose goal it was to turn the native Russians into white niggers, which they were successful at. Reminder that it is still the Jewish plan to turn whites into niggers world wide. Watch Europa

Russians Under Communism became the White niggers they are today, They may have actually become a decent people if the Tzar wasn't killed off by the Jews

Reminder that Nicholas II was a retard who deserved to die. Reminder he sent Stalin to Siberia multiple times. Reminder that the bolsheviks raised life expectancy in russia from 28 to 68 in 3 decades. Reminder they eliminated disease. Reminder they transformed russia from a backwards lawless shithole into a first world country that went on to defeat nazi germany. Nicholas II was a worthless leader and he died for it. He played his part, nothing more to say about him.

I'm pretty sure most of us do.

>they had commieblocks you idiot. apartments. you're thinking of the really old times
Commieblocks are shit but even those weren't available in high enough numbers. There were plenty of people who were still living in wooden barracks without plumbing in 1991.
>Living provided for. More than you can say for any homeless man in the good ol' us of a.
Living wasn't provided for, it was earned. The time people had to work in order to receive an apartment would be more than enough for them to buy a house in a capitalist country. People had to live with their extended family sometimes for decades before they received their own housing.

I lived in a post soviet state. In both a rural village and a larger city in bulgaria. I am currently living in the UK. I can tell you for a fact housing standards are not all that different. I have never had to use an outdoor toilet

>Living wasn't provided for, it was earned
Living means your general well being. Your general needs being met. House/apartment ownership is a different thing altogether, tho I fail to see how what you're describing is any different from a rich first world country either.

Keep crying faggot nobody is falling for your shitty communist ideas

>we were the first make mobile and satellite tech
>well only groundwork on the base (shit) tech on one aspect of it

You are really reaching, pal. Russia could have "invented" some of it but it turns out it sucks and U.S.A did all the cool stuff with it. Did it work well? No? Then I guess the blundered that as well. Plus the wiki articles are shit sourced but I won't use that as my argument. Central planning is more efficient than a free market? What?! This would mean Russia should be higher than US for gdp. BUT WAIT!! As you can clearly see, they are 9th instead of 2nd in 1991 collapse and even leafland is better than them. Guess who is number 1. Oh wait, you already know the answer. The country that is claimed to be the most capitalistic of all time. Automobile, airplane, the people that shipped spam to feed you loser asses in ww2 plus put boots on your feet. You want to talk about inventions? America might as well have murdered the competition because in comparison Russia is pathetic.

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Just open your mind for a second accept that maybe the powers that be are not all that honest about what went down during the communist revolutions of old. And that maybe there is some fucking merit to this idea. The idea humans don't have to cause tremendous suffering to live a good life.

What kind of crack are you smoking you pinko commie bastard???? Nothing is powerful under communism.

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Are you implying soviet citizens didn't suffer under communism? No deflecting and pointing fingers to other countries.

communism is shitty dictatorship

ussr was created in bloody civil war, people hated communism, but commies were able to trick common people by promising them infinite gibs and redistribution of wealth

ussr collapsed without any war, nobody defended it, everybody hated communism LOL

He's a dirty communist dog. Don't expect too much from him his incredibly low iq won't allow it

Yes. People suffered. A lot more people suffered a lot more heinous things before the bolshevik revolution. Same country.

>I lived in a post soviet state. In both a rural village and a larger city in bulgaria. I am currently living in the UK. I can tell you for a fact housing standards are not all that different. I have never had to use an outdoor toilet
Then you had it better than Russian peasants who had to pay for everyone else's shit. Russian housing was the worst in the Union and Union's housing was the worst in the Warsaw Pact. So much for muh empire. Russians having worse living conditions than fucking Balkanites lamo.
>Living means your general well being. Your general needs being met.
You were talking about homeless people, although I fail to see how an economy that can't provide basic necesseties can provide anything else.
>how what you're describing is any different from a rich first world country
Yeah, it's basically shitty mortgage in first world country except:
1) it's mandatory
2) the apartment you get is overpriced because the government is the only provider of housing and can set whatever price it wants
3) you will never ever own the apartment or land you pay for, you only get the right to live there
4) even that right is only given to you when you pay the price of the apartment in full
5) faggots will tell that the housing is free and thus not having toilet paper is fine

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vpn? no way you actually live there

>2) the apartment you get is overpriced because the government is the only provider of housing and can set whatever price it wants
do you know what 2008 economic crash was? what caused it?

I am by no means defending the tzars but commies absolutety murdered tons of people that opposed them. Russia is not a good example of communism thriving when Japan can beat your entire country economically after losing ww2. Sure, capitalism can suck but most reasons I couod argue have been the result of people fucking it up in our government.

>Yeah, it's basically shitty mortgage
Are you dyslexic?

Russia is a very good example of communism when you consider that they had no aid in recovering from any world war(they lost more people and infrastructure in ww2 than anyone) and actually provided aid to most of eastern europe, china, korea, cuba, etc. I think being a legitimate superpower is passing the test for the effectiveness of communism.

housing crash was not caused by shitty mortgage

you are fucking delusional

What was it caused by?

turning government subsidized housing into a private profit enterprise

I disagree. Communism has only worked when you can milk tons of money from the populace. You also had a huge resource economy which doesn't rely on industrial innovation.
Housing crash was caused when our government, like others, thought it would be good to help banks give out mortgages through policies to get lower income people housing. It's happening again.

> understanding that Russians wanted freedom from feudalism
> majority of commies were under educated bidloids or over educated bidloids
>literally useful idiots fucked up Russias politics
> killed local culture and replaced it with socialist shit
Yeah stronk

What financial tools were used in order to do that?

It's almost like you can solve it by just having the state provide housing to people.

Actually state mandated houses are still here and they are pretty good. Some types are even better than new estate buildings when it comes to materials and nearby area.

It was state funded credit agencies but they were encouraged to approve as many people as possible since it meant they got more money themselves. It was a giant clusterfuck of supposedly state industries being married into private profit industries.

No you fucking retard. It was caused because the banks were loaning money for a home to anybody regardless of their credit history. It eventually caught up to them when all the worthless faggots they loaned to defaulted and hence the crash. Then that nigger commie faggot Obama let them off the hook at the tax payers expense. God damnit I want to kill every one of you fucking scum bags

>Bulgaria
>USSR
Ahahahahahah, holy fuck

>It was caused because the banks were loaning money for a home to anybody regardless of their credit history.
they were doing that because it was fucking profitable

>Then that nigger commie faggot Obama let them off the hook at the tax payers expense.

the crash would have been much worse had he not done that. you think they can just recover on their own?

Not mentioning that a big reason why Russians are alcoholics today is because of how communism destroyed their country and murdered the slavic elite for nearly a century.

>It was state funded credit agencies
Housing credit is called mortgage loan.

bulgaria was a people's republic from after the war until the collapse of the ussr.

Communism destroyed Russia. Both the USSR's violent rise and inevitable collapse took a huge toll on Russian demographics.
It was nothing but a playground, testing site for West, where communism was invented in the first place, where bolsheviks took refuge and were financed to take over Russia. When it served its purpose it was simply thrown away, only husk remains.

This is kind of like the TRS position of "Yes we want to destroy the country and all starve to death, but without having to see easily corrected social ills"

Nahh,that is culture in these parts. Really the problems with alcohol stem from its low quality and living conditions, basically it is better to be alcoholic american not Russian due to life quality,and life quality in Russia was fucked up by Commies!

And that’s and absolute bullshit. An average “queue time” to get an apartment wasn’t more than 4-5 years. And if you had a child you would get 2-3bdr apt earlier than those who lived solo. Practically in some cities far from regional centers you could be provided with housing instantly if you come there under ‘distribution program’ which was made for skilled workers to raise the economy in remote districts of Union.

literally every old person in Bulgaria still uses newspaper or corncobs to wipe their asses because they got used to it going to the outhouse or the bush their whole life.

Communism built Russia. Capitalism collapsed it. Yeltsin and Gorbachev were CIA-backed scum.

don't you have .nu websites in legoland?

Hey, if we cut some shit out of our spending to do it and it would be affordable, then fine. But on top of the already fucked amount of money we waste just to house niggers? No.

I'm 1/2 Ukrainian and the cultural influence of booze is a factor but not a determining one to alcoholism.

Stress, brutalist architecture, shit work conditions, crammed housing, cold weather and boredom are fuel for alcohol abuse and depression.

you have no fucking idea what you talking about
also show flag ... faggot

Your two points in this response are contradictory. If it was profitable then why did they need a bail out? If they couldn't recover on their own without a bail out then how is it profitable? It is just a form of corporate-communism corporate-communism

The hard work of the slavic peole built Russia you larping faggot.

The politiburo sucks kike foreskin

because they are retarded. i saw a documentary where some russian high schoolers were reading an essay shitting on the dictatorship of the proletariat, in a depreciated school building unironically, like bro, capitalism is the reason your shitty school is crumbling

He's right though.

built by killing own population lol?

kill yourself moron

And they were way happier and more culturally cohesive than any sperg on here or in modern day bulgaria, even my rich classmates at the time.

>Niue
Nani?

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And where did that all go? Why is eastern europe unable to recover itself 30 years after the fact? Why are people more miserable than ever?

You don’t understand the basics of socialist economy because your whole life turns around capitalism obviously. In socialist model there is no private property and no real money. You work for the common goal, that’s why it’s COMMUNism. You can’t ‘cut and redistribute’ money because ‘money’ becomes a social construct under socialist model. Not a valuable resource. That’s why state housing has nothing to do with your understanding on how to house those niggers. You just don’t have any resources to redistribute and cut. They just don’t exist, try to get it. The only valuable source is labor.

Russia is mass degeneracy, number one country for alcoholism, aids, heroine addicts, child prostitution.

it is not the whole truth .. it was at the expense of satelite states
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_communist_Czechoslovaka

Per Capita GDP (1990 $) 1938 1990
Austria $1,800 $19,200
Czechoslovak Socialist Republic $1,800 $3,100
Finland $1,800 $26,100
Italy $1,300 $16,800

>shills for a supra national entity that displaced entire peoples to siberia and relied heavly on propaganda and deception
>claims that they had more cultural cohesion.

Oh jeez maybe because the same fucking people are still in power?
Maybe because the political powers in every former soviet satellite is connected to the вop в зaкóнe since Stalin was alive?

You talk about Ukraine. Ukraine is the worst post-Soviet shithole with confirmed leadership in human trading, faggots per capita and drug abusing. If you’d live in Russian speaking part of the Internet you’d understand what I’m talking about.

He does't give a flying fuck.
No communist gives a shit about the lives of white slavs.

They see them as cattle to be milked and when they start kicking they put them on their knees and milk them some more.

Why do you think the Cheka, NKV, Securitati, ŠtB and any other secret police was run by jews?

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If not a vpn, this is probably an aussie visiting oceanic shitholes to shitpost online.

Stalin killed the whole Ukrainian elite.
My whole family was forced to leave Днiпpoпeтpóвcьк and flee to Brazil for christ sake

>>d heavly on propaganda and deception

that's what the entirety of western entertainment is

>Oh jeez maybe because the same fucking people are still in power?
at some point you can stop blaming corruption. russia and all of eastern europe copied the american capitalist system 1:1.

>Stalin killed the whole Ukrainian elite.
what's wrong with that?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.nu

>Intended use: Entities connected with Niue
>Actual: Used for a multitude of sites all over, few with any connection to Niue; especially popular in Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands and Belgium since "nu" is Swedish, Danish and Dutch for "now"