lets be honest Jow Forums, we can say for sure that capitalism has failed. (also communism and others). If you still believe capitalism has ANY good for us people then you are truly retarded. start counting the american cities (Detroit, Chicago, Dallas etc.). In ALL of these cities are only poor and rich left, and the poorer ones are getting more and more every day, while the rich people cant reproduce so fast.
The free market isn't free if there's bureaucracy and there's always been bureaucracy so there's never been a truly free market. If you remove all restriction on goods and services, as well as most laws, the world will sort itself out.
David Russell
Capitalism is working for me, maybe you should stop being poor?
remove paper money and you are the poorest person on earth faggot
Hunter Gonzalez
Third Positionism obviously, what else? >Capitalism is working for me you say as north america is turning into brazil 2
Christian Jones
No, I still have land and food storage. You're really terrible at managing resources and want the state to do it for you. What a brainlet!
Jackson Butler
>you say as north america is turning into brazil 2 How the fuck is that the fault of capitalism and not bureaucracy? No one pays for it to happen except the dirty fucking jews. People vote on shit that leads to situations like this.
Parker Price
you meant it will sold it self out??
Eli Anderson
>you meant it will sold it self out?? Try that sentence again.
Easton Long
These con-artists will say anything. They're not bound by truth.
Carson Carter
We are all Mind Controlled
Adam Wright
You will get killed on your "land" if you dont be aware
Gavin Cook
>buy a bunch of materlist objects >remove money >material objects still valuable and can be bartered for food and water and other objects Idiot
Owen Clark
Agreed, but still not the fault of a free market, which is what you obviously mean when you say "capitalism", there's a difference. One is an abysmal failure, the other has truly never been tried because there's always some moralist busy body banning shit.
Juan Hughes
It didn't fail, it succeeded too much and that success is imbalanced due to culture. Our profit motive is grounded in the hedonism of our culture. If our central philosophy were stoicism you would have much different results across all classes. Capitalism isn't the peoblem, people are, and people are ruled by culture, and culture is controlled by kikes.
>So what is the alternative System?? National Socialism.
Daniel Lee
What about when there's no social cohesion based on unifying factors, nor can there ever seem to be unless forming an entirely new nation, which would require a military coup and land grab?
Robert Brown
>Capitalism doesn't work >*Picture of fat person on welfare* Can you brain?
Jace Rivera
>everyones a loser cause Im an invalid
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Adam Price
Wrong, Capitalism means an economy based on Capital. The goal of which, implying success, means having the most Capital at your disposal. Money is the means of exchanging Capital. There is such a thing as "human" capital. Hell, even "debt" can be Capital, countries trade each others debt as Capital. It's the free market you're talking about working, and Capitalism as we know it was grounded in a more or less free market for a time until it's recent subversion over the past how many decades.
Ian Robinson
Would you say the resentment of the wealthy is more warranted now than in the past? Even as the priportion of wealth between the poor and rich has stayed largely the same as everyone gets wealthier?
I say this largely comparing a low income family of today and a millionaire/billionaire to a serf and a wealthy merchant or member of a guild. That proportion doesn't seem to have changed much when you look at it closely.
Jacob Gutierrez
Instantly spot boomers when they use exclamation marks
Dylan Nguyen
I don't exactly know for sure but I've been hearing for several years now that the wealth gap has been widening to a staggering degree. More and more every year. I would say that the wealthy lobby and levy what I'm calling bureaucracy to make laws that enable them to gather/acquire more Capital by illegitimate means and therefore resentment is logical and appropriate.
Nolan Wright
You have far to many big companies monopolizing different sectors. These companies and a few people involved in these companies have way to many billions in their bank accounts. This capitalism failure.
When you have small and medium business run by your average Joe or Jane that gives at least living salaries and employs many people in their communities that is when capitalism works.
Monopolies form inevitably, even in "truly free" market. There's nothing wrong with monopolies conceptually, the only problem arises when a monopoly forms out of a case of malfeasance. When the authority looks the other way, or when they actively work to enforce nefarious practices. For-profit prisons for example.
Samuel Bailey
Ever hear of marketing and advertising?
John Wright
That's a non sequitur. Reform your question with specificity and phrase it purposefully for an argument.
Owen Cook
This.
If you're still poor you deserve it.
Capitalism is the best system ever and even poorfags have the opportunity to become rich.
Just work a few more hours and buy bitcoin.
Should have been a millionaire by 25.
If not you're just an incel loser.
Daniel Reyes
Wouldn't a bunch of fat fucks be proof capitalism is an overwhelming success?
Kevin Rivera
Capitalism is based on obtaining more profit and reducing costs to minimum. Thats ehy immigration is a thing they need to keep slalaries down and nobody wants that low money so their force your lawmakers to bring in outsiders. It leads to collapse of society because those coming in are uneducated savages. Capitalism fails in the long run. AI society on the other hands might be the only viable solution because humans are coruptable
Jacob Nguyen
It’s not meant to be an argument. It’s an example of one tactic meant to “drive a narrative.”
>People vote on shit that leads to situations like this. Do you understand how much money and time is thrown at swaying opinions? Every politician is carefully studied, think tanks paid thousand/millions, Hollywood and other media, entire education departments taken over, millions donated to specific Universities for an agenda, algorithms changed, church groups, etc. The majority of people do not sit around and discuss politics or economics. It’s absurd to think they’re going to start when they’ve been herded into one direction from a young age.
Isaiah Davis
>Ever hear of? >It’s not meant to be an argument. Clearly you're trying to make a point, and the way you went about it implied that I was missing something. And that you were aware of something I was missing. You have no demonstrated this yet, just provided a soft diatribe that marginally relates to the topic, but doesn't at all address the distinction between Capitalism and a free market and the effect/role of bureaucracy as it pertains to these two separate entities.
>The majority of people do not sit around and discuss politics or economics. Bullshit.
Now let's get into it: All of the factors you're mentioning are the aforementioned "bureaucracy" I've been repeating. Everything you say refers back to this crucial point.
You need to refer to either the points made, or make a new point to further the discussion. It seems like you don't understand how to have this discussion though based on what you've said, so maybe try reading what's already been written or just spectate for the remainder of this thread.
Aiden Perry
Mixed economies oriented around strong families are probably the most red pilled, basically socialism.