"socialism never works"

>giving the rich a tax cut to own the libs
Ebin, simply ebin

same fate awaits you

Do you not see the $/capita? We could literally SAVE MONEY by copying their systems. I'd rather make $100 and be taxed to $40 with free health care than make $100, taxed to $66, and then pay $40 for health care leaving me with only $26 dollars.

if you nation i socialist is necessary to be nationalist to prosper

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this
Socialism is for high IQ peoples

>I heard you're supposed to be minority white in one generation.

le 56% face

I can provide my own health care. I will not use government healthcare. Never.

I cant believe Americans are so brainwashed to defend their corporate overlords and oligarchs.

This, Socialism will never work in the US, education system isn't good enough

No, he is right. If you remove sids from circumcision, the life expectancy would shoot up.

It could work in the US if we actually got economies of scale in buying power and if there weren’t so many poor lazy people paying $0 into the system.

>MUH DEFICIT
the fed can print as much money as it wants

european systems are far more complex than "hurrr durr it's free healthcare", and it's certainly not socialist

i myself have private and semi-private insurance

Please don't say my country is a socialist country when it's not.

Universal healthcare is Socialist

What a shit analogy. Do you pay $40k per year for healthcare right now?
Might as well an hero if you do

Yeah, Americans enjoy FREEDOM and dislike paying taxes out the ass. This is what their country was built on, so respect it.

You ignored my point to nitpick made on the fly numbers. They *SPEND LESS MONEY PER PERSON* on healthcare than we do. I dont care one bit whether I'm paying for my health care in the form of taxes or because my employer withholds from my income for health insurance, either way I'm paying for it. At the end of the day, the increase in taxation would leave me with more disposable income, because the tax increase would be significantly less than what is withheld, as evidenced by the LESS MONEY PER PERSON

so is paying taxes, and government using our taxes to pave roads, street lamps, sidewalks, sanitation etc. Any country that pays taxes has socialist tendencies - including the US. Canada is large-and-by-far a more capitalist country on the economic spectrum than most countries in the world.

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70 is more than most of our people are worth, so it's efficient in the long run

FUCK YEAH, FREEDOM TO GET OVERCHARGED

just the dems

The issue is literally niggers and spics

The government doing something isn't socialism. Taxing citizens isn't Socialist, but having publically owned healthcare is Socialist to a degree because there are still private hospitals in many countries with universal healthcare.

When they say muh freedumbs, they also include the freedumbs for a corporation to rape them in the ass.

Japan healthcare is almost as expensive as in the US.
Also, the reason behind US healthcare being insanely expensive and terrible is because it is managed by Jews. Same reason US Courts are shit and terribly expensive, too. Same reason US Education is insanely expensive and shit. Same reason US election campaigns cost so much and are shit.
Do you spot the pattern, right?

What makes you think you'd make comparable wages in Europoor?

>three extra years to spend in prison for misgendering someone

Ummm sweetie, no

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Really disingenuous graph
If you look at present day figures all European countries are stagnating/declining to around 80-81 which isn't that much different to America

every fallacy

that doesn't make us a socialist country because we have free healthcare. Is Britain socialist? No. Is Japan socialist? Absolutely not. Socialist tendencies don't equate to being a socialist country - we do have social democracy, as any 1st world countries do with a population under 100,000,000, with a capitalist mixed economy.

The US government pays more per capita for health care than other governments already. That's even before you count private expenditures. You aren't saving taxes, you're paying more taxes for healthcare than they are.

Look at the size of the dark blue bar compared to others.

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Is this expenditure chart using correct data?

For "universal" health countries is it number of citizens divided by government expenditures?
For the US is it just hospital users and not an aggregated mix of all citizens?

Where did this graph come from? Somebody's ass?

This, Americans love being cucked by big corporations

Okay, fair enough, we should look at it in percentages instead of raw numbers that is most scientific thank you user. Could you please tell me which country spends the most money, as a % of their GDP, based off of this graph?

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>Life expectancy
>300million people
>Niggers kiling each other
>Young adults overdose on drugs
>Mass suicide
>Obesity
>Obesity
>Obesity
Universal healthcare would not change anything.

The american political system is like the Masonic checkerboard. Both sides are controlled. We'll never be given decent healthcare without the Democrat's other insane anti-white, socialist caste system establishing laws coming with them. The Republicans work you to death for the Zionists. Two sides of the same shekel.

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All the graph is showing is that after a certain point expenditure on health care is a complete waste of time

>conflating life expectancy for quality of care and speed of treatment

There are numerous factors beyond the healthcare system that contribute to Europeans being longer lived, such as diet, exercise, senior care, ethnic demographics, and so on. Regardless, I agree that there should be a base level of socialized medicine for those who meat a minimum tax payment threshold. I am not in the business of providing healthcare to every bum and day one migrant who shows up on the hospital's doorstep.

>>Young adults overdose on drugs
>>Mass suicide
>>Obesity
>>Obesity
>>Obesity
All causes by corporations being unrestricted

Show the life expectancy corrected for minorities.

Show the cost corrected for the over expenditure on minorities.

does this even account for the higher taxes the europoors pay towards their healthcare

universal healthcare isn't a solution to all problems since (((laboratories))) get taxpayers money while fucking up the environment

In my country, just for information, real GDP is 20% lower than official one. Also in Europe, which told us to do the same as them and count illegal business and prostitution as contributing to GDP.

>using 2010
I posted the updated data here

They started teaching to the lowest common denominator 20 years ago. Niggers made sure our education went to hell. You don't have to know trigonometry to graduate high school here.

Pls halp

Europeans and I'm Canada we pay less in taxes than you guys do on private healthcare.

In the past 2 weeks I had a blood test, 2 CT scans, a colonoscopy and a polypectomy. If this had been anywhere else I would have been waiting months. Eat Shit

We're not a social democracy yet. We still need a few more reforms.

youtube.com/watch?v=fFoXyFmmGBQ

Sure thing. Fund your own military, along with the rest of Europe. Remove all troops and support from US out of Europe. That should free up a large chunk of defense budget to use on some public medical costs. Enjoy cutting your welfare programs to fund a real military.

Just found it on google but thanks, Leaf.
That's not true, the graph shows more than that. It is true that you cant achieve immortality by spending more and more, but it also shows what the leaf posted, that we spend more money per person than they do. We also get a worse return on investment life expectancy wise, which I'm not ass concerned about, I'm just pissed off we spend so much more.
Are you illiterate? You're paying whether it's in taxes or insurance or OOP. They spend less than we.

>Thinking I give a fuck about life expectancy when I live a life 4x better than most europoors and my employer pays for my insurance.

Top kek my nigga, now excuse me I'm off to my porch for a cup of coffee and a cigar.

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Less than $0. The only net tax payers are white men, as a demographic. Everyone else, including white women, receive more in benefits from taxes than they actually pay

>AnCap channel
>skip 2 minutes into the video
>here "working class now being forced to pay taxes for free healthcare"
lol everytime

Brainlet detected

My high school didn't have Trig.

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I didn't say we are a social democracy... I said we have it. Hence the fact we have a fucking party called New Democratic Party who are socialists/communists and have swept cities up. But no, we're not a social democracy - we're still a capitalist country with some European socialism.

Not even close, retard.

Also, the average is skewed in healthcare costs and obesity due to minorities. They drink too much grape drank and smoke too much dank ass Newport cigarettes.

You'll find the obesity epidemic is mostly in colored areas. Niggers usually die of diabetes, stroke, and heart disease in their late 60's early 70's. Mexicans are showing the same trends.

Euros will get up enjoy this hell in a few years. Many of the Arab countries are taking over the US in obesity and you're importing them in droves. Same with Indians, I've never seen so many skinny fat fuckers until I went to the middle East. PVC pipe arms and a huge belly.

You don't need to free any money. You're already paying for it. You're just not getting what you pay for.

It has nothing to do with niggas, ALL Americans are dumb and inferior, it's the result of their culture

I wonder how the graph would look like without niggers

>The fact that it's less money spent pro-capite is the meter used to gauge efficiency
>The average life expectancy is used to gauge effectiveness
fuck off you megakikes
The only reason I didn't die yet is because I have a doctor in the family that knows his shit, I dread to think what would have happened if I decided to go to the ER instead

That's irrelevant. Canada is only 70% white and we have universal healthcare.

Trump supporters are uneducated shitbags who unironically vote against their own economic interests

it is not free if people must pay for it

>everything is fine

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It's not money LAUNDERING. It's money RECYCLING.

Most of the reasons US life expectancy is lower than Europe's are not related to healthcare.

In fact the healthcare in the US has way better surviving rates for hard-to-treat diseases (the ones where healthcare quality actually matters).

Plus, how many of those countries machines are made in, invented and commercialized by American companies? If every country had to use their own inventions the US would live 20 years longer in average.

Profit seeking healthcare systems may be unpopular, but fuck do they get the best out of people.

No one calls or it free healthcare anyways. It's called universal healthcare.

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Lastly, our biggest issue with healthcare costs are lack of regulations on procedures and medication. Many of the big pharma corps are the biggest political lobbiests on both sides of the isles.

When you get one stitch and they charge 1100$ whether you have insurance or not it rolls over somewhere. I think, but I don't know for sure this is to cover indigent care. Don't let the rumors fool you, American hospitals cannot turn anyone down if they're at risk for losing eyesight, life or limb.

Niggers get ambulance rides for headaches, get triaged in the ER and get sent home because they're retarded and don't pay. It rolls over somewhere.

Just stop being an imperialist country you brainlet and you too would have enough money for education and Healthcare

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Don't be obtuse. Our culture doesn't help, but minorities cause huge issues here.

>niggers
Ok bud

>Differences between the US and Germany
>About 250 million people
>A shitload of niggers
>A shitload of spics
>About 25 points in obesity rate
The US is already a logistical nightmare when it comes to government programs due to its massive population and a ton of useless people who do nothing but act as a drain on the system, but obesity rates and other health care issues only exacerbate the issue. Point being the issue isn't capitalism, the issue is Americans. Given the choice of low cost health care for myself since I am a healthy person without crippling obesity, diabetes, or a host of birth defects like asthma and a dozen allergies or paying a shitload more in taxes because Jamal's granny has diabetes and heart disease from a diet of nothing but snack cakes, McDonalds, and KFC for 80 years as well as HPV and gonorrhea from a lifetime of fucking random men I would choose the former.

Life was never meant to be fair, doesn't mean we has humans, with the thought to action capacity can't make it fair. For the sake of our children.

No , more like America has an exceptionally dumb right wing electorate that explicitly votes against their own economic class interests . Americans (especially whites) are dumb when it comes to class consciousness

these tired old Cato institute talking points

>In fact the healthcare in the US has way better surviving rates for hard-to-treat diseases (the ones where healthcare quality actually matters).
Most countries with universal healthcare still have private hospitals
>Plus, how many of those countries machines are made in, invented and commercialized by American companies?
Almost none, the innovation is actually created by the government giving subsidies to universities and research companies.

Cherry picked prices from Nunavut.

They already pay more taxes for healthcare than you. They don't need to stop being an imperialist country or do anything other than get what they're already paying for.

If you can’t understand that there is a difference between implementing individual “socialist policies” and being a socialist country you a retard. Simple as that.

>More effective
I'll remember that the next time I have to wait in a hospital corridor due to lack of beds

> have healthcare to cover the costs of Muslim rapes, acid throws and general truck of peace events
BASED AND SHARIAPILLED

>Cherry picked prices from Nunavut.

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>we don't need to stop being imperialists
That's how you caused your own border crisis and then retards like complaining about useless people.

Stop being a fucking leech off of my tax dollars you stupid kraut.

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Who the fuck wants to be 85 and dependent on the state every day to live? What kind of life is that? I'll die early for my countrymen rather than being a spoiled fucking entitled brat. God Europe, all your good men died in the wars...

>Most countries with universal healthcare still have private hospitals

Which you'd have to pay for on top of the public ones. Pay 2 hospitals to receive the services of one, what a deal.

>Almost none, the innovation is actually created by the government giving subsidies to universities and research companies.

If this was true, which it isn't. How come the government giving subsidies in other countries don't yield as much as the one in the US? Are they better allocating these government subsidies than the rest of the world combined?